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the founders are holding more than 90% eth in the network, so if you expected so much to the growth of eth, you will be a prey tasty for the holders  Grin Grin Grin

No. I think they sold most of the coins during the early days. The volume of Ethereum trading was quite big then.
Time will tell . i think eth is heading now to 0.04 then you will see unexpected trade at the range 0.031-0.04
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the founders are holding more than 90% eth in the network, so if you expected so much to the growth of eth, you will be a prey tasty for the holders  Grin Grin Grin

No. I think they sold most of the coins during the early days. The volume of Ethereum trading was quite big then.
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the founders are holding more than 90% eth in the network, so if you expected so much to the growth of eth, you will be a prey tasty for the holders  Grin Grin Grin
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Panic buy now. Last time to buy ETH below 13$. Countdown to lift off. 2 bil market cap in next month. 0.2 BTC per ETH it's the real value.

ETH was not actually ever designed to be a store of value, they even say so in the whitepaper.

This is an obvious pump by some mega whales, and a lot of people are going to get burned.

It is such a classic bubble.


What is value of cryptocoins? IMO we're going to new definition. This and next years value of cryptocurrency will be amount of services hosted on it. Internet of things is the near future. Microsoft investing a lot of $ in ethereum and they knowing what they doing. ETH isnt't another litecoin, dogecon... It's new technology like web 2.0.

In terms of the technology I agree.

In terms of the price I don't believe it can stay at these levels sustainably. It is a classic bubble, it will pop, and I believe it will stabilize again around 0.01 BTC. Of course I could be wrong.

There are already threads on the ETH forums where people are saying it is now too expensive to develop the dapps they were planning on the ETH network due to the current price.
Yes, you could be right. But if you correctly predicted BTC price will be stabilized at $2xx in 2013, you would miss a big opportunity to double or triple your wealth. That said, you will have less chance to lose half of your wealth. So, who knows.

The only real question is if the bubble will go higher (like BTC in 2013) before it pops or not. Now that it's over 1 billion market cap in my opinion it is much harder to go from 1 Billion to 2 Billion than from the previous value increases we have seen over the last few weeks.

Calling Ethereum a bubble is like calling Apple a bubble.

What's your definition of a bubble?

For a crypto, when it is being hyped in the media, and on the forums, and when it goes up 10x or more in a short period of time. And when most people cannot see it is a bubble  Cheesy

Not once has a crypto stabilized at the peak price.

Sure ETH will find a new floor (which I believe will be around 0.01 BTC), but I would be really surprised if it goes over 2 Billion market cap and beyond.

I don't understand how all of you guys don't get it that the Ethereum rise is mostly fueled by Bitcoin shooting itself in the foot by the block size debate and politics surrounding it. Yes, Homestead release and development of the Ethereum and its features is also responsible for the rise, but not as much as my previous conclusion.

If you look at the things from this perspective, there is no way that this is a bubble. OK, of course there is some speculation, there always is. But is this rise a complete bubble, I don't think it is. Now, if die hard bitcoiners, especially on this forum, are refusing to see the forest from the trees and admit that things in Bitcoin land are far from being rose, that's their problem. If these die hard bitcoiners are refusing to believe that many crypto enthusiasts are diversifying their investment out there, just in case, that's really only their problem!

Huge volumes are justifying my claims from above. There is a real interest in Ethereum. You just don't fake 100,000+ BTCs volumes, I mean c'mon.


You have half my point, instead of BITCOIN focusing itself on fixing some fucking block size that THERE IS NO NEED FOR YET, it could start adding features or things that are actually usefull, i believe altcoins should be like little tests to know what btc needa and itnto get implemented.
Edit: yes you just fake 100k btc volume, i seen it in other coins, there is a loss but clearly there is way more profit there.
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Panic buy now. Last time to buy ETH below 13$. Countdown to lift off. 2 bil market cap in next month. 0.2 BTC per ETH it's the real value.

ETH was not actually ever designed to be a store of value, they even say so in the whitepaper.

This is an obvious pump by some mega whales, and a lot of people are going to get burned.

It is such a classic bubble.


What is value of cryptocoins? IMO we're going to new definition. This and next years value of cryptocurrency will be amount of services hosted on it. Internet of things is the near future. Microsoft investing a lot of $ in ethereum and they knowing what they doing. ETH isnt't another litecoin, dogecon... It's new technology like web 2.0.

In terms of the technology I agree.

In terms of the price I don't believe it can stay at these levels sustainably. It is a classic bubble, it will pop, and I believe it will stabilize again around 0.01 BTC. Of course I could be wrong.

There are already threads on the ETH forums where people are saying it is now too expensive to develop the dapps they were planning on the ETH network due to the current price.
Yes, you could be right. But if you correctly predicted BTC price will be stabilized at $2xx in 2013, you would miss a big opportunity to double or triple your wealth. That said, you will have less chance to lose half of your wealth. So, who knows.

The only real question is if the bubble will go higher (like BTC in 2013) before it pops or not. Now that it's over 1 billion market cap in my opinion it is much harder to go from 1 Billion to 2 Billion than from the previous value increases we have seen over the last few weeks.

Calling Ethereum a bubble is like calling Apple a bubble.

What's your definition of a bubble?

For a crypto, when it is being hyped in the media, and on the forums, and when it goes up 10x or more in a short period of time. And when most people cannot see it is a bubble  Cheesy

Not once has a crypto stabilized at the peak price.

Sure ETH will find a new floor (which I believe will be around 0.01 BTC), but I would be really surprised if it goes over 2 Billion market cap and beyond.

I don't understand how all of you guys don't get it that the Ethereum rise is mostly fueled by Bitcoin shooting itself in the foot by the block size debate and politics surrounding it. Yes, Homestead release and development of the Ethereum and its features is also responsible for the rise, but not as much as my previous conclusion.

If you look at the things from this perspective, there is no way that this is a bubble. OK, of course there is some speculation, there always is. But is this rise a complete bubble, I don't think it is. Now, if die hard bitcoiners, especially on this forum, are refusing to see the forest from the trees and admit that things in Bitcoin land are far from being rose, that's their problem. If these die hard bitcoiners are refusing to believe that many crypto enthusiasts are diversifying their investment out there, just in case, that's really only their problem!

Huge volumes are justifying my claims from above. There is a real interest in Ethereum. You just don't fake 100,000+ BTCs volumes, I mean c'mon.



Bitcoin has its bubbles too I'm not saying that ETH is "better" or "worse" than BTC.
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Panic buy now. Last time to buy ETH below 13$. Countdown to lift off. 2 bil market cap in next month. 0.2 BTC per ETH it's the real value.

ETH was not actually ever designed to be a store of value, they even say so in the whitepaper.

This is an obvious pump by some mega whales, and a lot of people are going to get burned.

It is such a classic bubble.


What is value of cryptocoins? IMO we're going to new definition. This and next years value of cryptocurrency will be amount of services hosted on it. Internet of things is the near future. Microsoft investing a lot of $ in ethereum and they knowing what they doing. ETH isnt't another litecoin, dogecon... It's new technology like web 2.0.

In terms of the technology I agree.

In terms of the price I don't believe it can stay at these levels sustainably. It is a classic bubble, it will pop, and I believe it will stabilize again around 0.01 BTC. Of course I could be wrong.

There are already threads on the ETH forums where people are saying it is now too expensive to develop the dapps they were planning on the ETH network due to the current price.
Yes, you could be right. But if you correctly predicted BTC price will be stabilized at $2xx in 2013, you would miss a big opportunity to double or triple your wealth. That said, you will have less chance to lose half of your wealth. So, who knows.

The only real question is if the bubble will go higher (like BTC in 2013) before it pops or not. Now that it's over 1 billion market cap in my opinion it is much harder to go from 1 Billion to 2 Billion than from the previous value increases we have seen over the last few weeks.

Calling Ethereum a bubble is like calling Apple a bubble.

What's your definition of a bubble?

For a crypto, when it is being hyped in the media, and on the forums, and when it goes up 10x or more in a short period of time. And when most people cannot see it is a bubble  Cheesy

Not once has a crypto stabilized at the peak price.

Sure ETH will find a new floor (which I believe will be around 0.01 BTC), but I would be really surprised if it goes over 2 Billion market cap and beyond.

I don't understand how all of you guys don't get it that the Ethereum rise is mostly fueled by Bitcoin shooting itself in the foot by the block size debate and politics surrounding it. Yes, Homestead release and development of the Ethereum and its features is also responsible for the rise, but not as much as my previous conclusion.

If you look at the things from this perspective, there is no way that this is a bubble. OK, of course there is some speculation, there always is. But is this rise a complete bubble, I don't think it is. Now, if die hard bitcoiners, especially on this forum, are refusing to see the forest from the trees and admit that things in Bitcoin land are far from being rose, that's their problem. If these die hard bitcoiners are refusing to believe that many crypto enthusiasts are diversifying their investment out there, just in case, that's really only their problem!

Huge volumes are justifying my claims from above. There is a real interest in Ethereum. You just don't fake 100,000+ BTCs volumes, I mean c'mon.

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There are already threads on the ETH forums where people are saying it is now too expensive to develop the dapps they were planning on the ETH network due to the current price.

You know its not like the price per Gas couldnt be adapted and VB already confirmed this.
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why ddos only attack on polo? Maybe somebody dont like polo  Shocked

I would say it is some of the Bitcoin old guard trying to stop the growth of ETH. Personally I believe it is most likely in a bubble and will pop anyway.

Things are getting really crazy!
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why ddos only attack on polo? Maybe somebody dont like polo  Shocked
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Panic buy now. Last time to buy ETH below 13$. Countdown to lift off. 2 bil market cap in next month. 0.2 BTC per ETH it's the real value.

ETH was not actually ever designed to be a store of value, they even say so in the whitepaper.

This is an obvious pump by some mega whales, and a lot of people are going to get burned.

It is such a classic bubble.


What is value of cryptocoins? IMO we're going to new definition. This and next years value of cryptocurrency will be amount of services hosted on it. Internet of things is the near future. Microsoft investing a lot of $ in ethereum and they knowing what they doing. ETH isnt't another litecoin, dogecon... It's new technology like web 2.0.

In terms of the technology I agree.

In terms of the price I don't believe it can stay at these levels sustainably. It is a classic bubble, it will pop, and I believe it will stabilize again around 0.01 BTC. Of course I could be wrong.

There are already threads on the ETH forums where people are saying it is now too expensive to develop the dapps they were planning on the ETH network due to the current price.
Yes, you could be right. But if you correctly predicted BTC price will be stabilized at $2xx in 2013, you would miss a big opportunity to double or triple your wealth. That said, you will have less chance to lose half of your wealth. So, who knows.

The only real question is if the bubble will go higher (like BTC in 2013) before it pops or not. Now that it's over 1 billion market cap in my opinion it is much harder to go from 1 Billion to 2 Billion than from the previous value increases we have seen over the last few weeks.

Calling Ethereum a bubble is like calling Apple a bubble.

What's your definition of a bubble?

For a crypto, when it is being hyped in the media, and on the forums, and when it goes up 10x or more in a short period of time. And when most people cannot see it is a bubble  Cheesy

Not once has a crypto stabilized at the peak price.

Sure ETH will find a new floor (which I believe will be around 0.01 BTC), but I would be really surprised if it goes over 2 Billion market cap and beyond.
legendary
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Did CLAM and Monero really had more than 100K BTC daily volume before? I really did not know this. That will be really a surprise to me.
No they didnt, but no one needed to fake volume.

Edit: i think that volume is being clearly faked , i don think the new fees of poloniex are coincidence.
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Did CLAM and Monero really had more than 100K BTC daily volume before? I really did not know this. That will be really a surprise to me.
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Panic buy now. Last time to buy ETH below 13$. Countdown to lift off. 2 bil market cap in next month. 0.2 BTC per ETH it's the real value.

ETH was not actually ever designed to be a store of value, they even say so in the whitepaper.

This is an obvious pump by some mega whales, and a lot of people are going to get burned.

It is such a classic bubble.


What is value of cryptocoins? IMO we're going to new definition. This and next years value of cryptocurrency will be amount of services hosted on it. Internet of things is the near future. Microsoft investing a lot of $ in ethereum and they knowing what they doing. ETH isnt't another litecoin, dogecon... It's new technology like web 2.0.

In terms of the technology I agree.

In terms of the price I don't believe it can stay at these levels sustainably. It is a classic bubble, it will pop, and I believe it will stabilize again around 0.01 BTC. Of course I could be wrong.

There are already threads on the ETH forums where people are saying it is now too expensive to develop the dapps they were planning on the ETH network due to the current price.
Yes, you could be right. But if you correctly predicted BTC price will be stabilized at $2xx in 2013, you would miss a big opportunity to double or triple your wealth. That said, you will have less chance to lose half of your wealth. So, who knows.

The only real question is if the bubble will go higher (like BTC in 2013) before it pops or not. Now that it's over 1 billion market cap in my opinion it is much harder to go from 1 Billion to 2 Billion than from the previous value increases we have seen over the last few weeks.
Yes, that's true. However considering the fund to double the ETH price now can only increase the price of BTC by 17% ( a very rough estimation since no one knows the ratio of tradable cap. The only thing we know is market cap). It's not a surprise that we see BTC increase 17% in one day.
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Panic buy now. Last time to buy ETH below 13$. Countdown to lift off. 2 bil market cap in next month. 0.2 BTC per ETH it's the real value.

ETH was not actually ever designed to be a store of value, they even say so in the whitepaper.

This is an obvious pump by some mega whales, and a lot of people are going to get burned.

It is such a classic bubble.


What is value of cryptocoins? IMO we're going to new definition. This and next years value of cryptocurrency will be amount of services hosted on it. Internet of things is the near future. Microsoft investing a lot of $ in ethereum and they knowing what they doing. ETH isnt't another litecoin, dogecon... It's new technology like web 2.0.

In terms of the technology I agree.

In terms of the price I don't believe it can stay at these levels sustainably. It is a classic bubble, it will pop, and I believe it will stabilize again around 0.01 BTC. Of course I could be wrong.

There are already threads on the ETH forums where people are saying it is now too expensive to develop the dapps they were planning on the ETH network due to the current price.
Yes, you could be right. But if you correctly predicted BTC price will be stabilized at $2xx in 2013, you would miss a big opportunity to double or triple your wealth. That said, you will have less chance to lose half of your wealth. So, who knows.

The only real question is if the bubble will go higher (like BTC in 2013) before it pops or not. Now that it's over 1 billion market cap in my opinion it is much harder to go from 1 Billion to 2 Billion than from the previous value increases we have seen over the last few weeks.

Calling Ethereum a bubble is like calling Apple a bubble.

What's your definition of a bubble?
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Panic buy now. Last time to buy ETH below 13$. Countdown to lift off. 2 bil market cap in next month. 0.2 BTC per ETH it's the real value.

ETH was not actually ever designed to be a store of value, they even say so in the whitepaper.

This is an obvious pump by some mega whales, and a lot of people are going to get burned.

It is such a classic bubble.


What is value of cryptocoins? IMO we're going to new definition. This and next years value of cryptocurrency will be amount of services hosted on it. Internet of things is the near future. Microsoft investing a lot of $ in ethereum and they knowing what they doing. ETH isnt't another litecoin, dogecon... It's new technology like web 2.0.

In terms of the technology I agree.

In terms of the price I don't believe it can stay at these levels sustainably. It is a classic bubble, it will pop, and I believe it will stabilize again around 0.01 BTC. Of course I could be wrong.

There are already threads on the ETH forums where people are saying it is now too expensive to develop the dapps they were planning on the ETH network due to the current price.
Yes, you could be right. But if you correctly predicted BTC price will be stabilized at $2xx in 2013, you would miss a big opportunity to double or triple your wealth. That said, you will have less chance to lose half of your wealth. So, who knows.

The only real question is if the bubble will go higher (like BTC in 2013) before it pops or not. Now that it's over 1 billion market cap in my opinion it is much harder to go from 1 Billion to 2 Billion than from the previous value increases we have seen over the last few weeks.
legendary
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Panic buy now. Last time to buy ETH below 13$. Countdown to lift off. 2 bil market cap in next month. 0.2 BTC per ETH it's the real value.

ETH was not actually ever designed to be a store of value, they even say so in the whitepaper.

This is an obvious pump by some mega whales, and a lot of people are going to get burned.

It is such a classic bubble.


What is value of cryptocoins? IMO we're going to new definition. This and next years value of cryptocurrency will be amount of services hosted on it. Internet of things is the near future. Microsoft investing a lot of $ in ethereum and they knowing what they doing. ETH isnt't another litecoin, dogecon... It's new technology like web 2.0.

In terms of the technology I agree.

In terms of the price I don't believe it can stay at these levels sustainably. It is a classic bubble, it will pop, and I believe it will stabilize again around 0.01 BTC. Of course I could be wrong.

There are already threads on the ETH forums where people are saying it is now too expensive to develop the dapps they were planning on the ETH network due to the current price.
Yes, you could be right. But if you correctly predicted BTC price will be stabilized at $2xx in 2013, you would miss a big opportunity to double or triple your wealth. That said, you will have less chance to lose half of your wealth. So, who knows.
legendary
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Seems someone doesn't like the Ethereum Homestead party we're celebrating in just a few hours  Grin

DDOS'ing PoloniEx won't help much...
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Panic buy now. Last time to buy ETH below 13$. Countdown to lift off. 2 bil market cap in next month. 0.2 BTC per ETH it's the real value.

ETH was not actually ever designed to be a store of value, they even say so in the whitepaper.

This is an obvious pump by some mega whales, and a lot of people are going to get burned.

It is such a classic bubble.


What is value of cryptocoins? IMO we're going to new definition. This and next years value of cryptocurrency will be amount of services hosted on it. Internet of things is the near future. Microsoft investing a lot of $ in ethereum and they knowing what they doing. ETH isnt't another litecoin, dogecon... It's new technology like web 2.0.

In terms of the technology I agree.

In terms of the price I don't believe it can stay at these levels sustainably. It is a classic bubble, it will pop, and I believe it will stabilize again around 0.01 BTC. Of course I could be wrong.

There are already threads on the ETH forums where people are saying it is now too expensive to develop the dapps they were planning on the ETH network due to the current price.

The price for running dapps can be changed... that's not too hard...
legendary
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Panic buy now. Last time to buy ETH below 13$. Countdown to lift off. 2 bil market cap in next month. 0.2 BTC per ETH it's the real value.

ETH was not actually ever designed to be a store of value, they even say so in the whitepaper.

This is an obvious pump by some mega whales, and a lot of people are going to get burned.

It is such a classic bubble.


What is value of cryptocoins? IMO we're going to new definition. This and next years value of cryptocurrency will be amount of services hosted on it. Internet of things is the near future. Microsoft investing a lot of $ in ethereum and they knowing what they doing. ETH isnt't another litecoin, dogecon... It's new technology like web 2.0.
I think that ethereum is an extreme butthurt way of trying to force the size growth. I wont say it will soon explode and go down, its hard it to go down when holders are organized but i still "smell the fishy".
Besides that ethereum is a good idea indeed, actually DC is gonna be a fork but all this importance thats added out of nowhere is clearly fake.
My post will soon be covered by many hyp posts eitherway and we both know that.

Panic buy now. Last time to buy ETH below 13$. Countdown to lift off. 2 bil market cap in next month. 0.2 BTC per ETH it's the real value.

ETH was not actually ever designed to be a store of value, they even say so in the whitepaper.

This is an obvious pump by some mega whales, and a lot of people are going to get burned.

It is such a classic bubble.

Precisely, very few users have most of the coins , i dont think pumping this pump and hold was planned from the beginning but i wonder how long it will last, i avoided touching eth from the beginning and yeah it kinda hurts now yet i dont regret it.

you don't have need to regret it. save your stake money. there will be other opportunities. there always are.
I seen those damn opportunities yet ill just focus on my own shit atleast i know how things work.

Bitcoin has reached these levels because mtgox inflated the market, the big miners,  in the market and extraction feet, because they would lose too much money  leave btc
eth who supports it? only the market?
To me, I don't think any coin had a daily volume more than half of BTC volume before. Therefore, either Poloniex fakes the volume, or something does happen on ETH.
CLAM and XMR were leader with thousands of btc volume not only on poloniex, keep dreaming.

Panic buy now. Last time to buy ETH below 13$. Countdown to lift off. 2 bil market cap in next month. 0.2 BTC per ETH it's the real value.

ETH was not actually ever designed to be a store of value, they even say so in the whitepaper.

This is an obvious pump by some mega whales, and a lot of people are going to get burned.

It is such a classic bubble.


What is value of cryptocoins? IMO we're going to new definition. This and next years value of cryptocurrency will be amount of services hosted on it. Internet of things is the near future. Microsoft investing a lot of $ in ethereum and they knowing what they doing. ETH isnt't another litecoin, dogecon... It's new technology like web 2.0.

In terms of the technology I agree.

In terms of the price I don't believe it can stay at these levels sustainably. It is a classic bubble, it will pop, and I believe it will stabilize again around 0.01 BTC. Of course I could be wrong.

There are already threads on the ETH forums where people are saying it is now too expensive to develop the dapps they were planning on the ETH network due to the current price.
i cannot wait to have apps on the clamchain lol
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Panic buy now. Last time to buy ETH below 13$. Countdown to lift off. 2 bil market cap in next month. 0.2 BTC per ETH it's the real value.

ETH was not actually ever designed to be a store of value, they even say so in the whitepaper.

This is an obvious pump by some mega whales, and a lot of people are going to get burned.

It is such a classic bubble.


What is value of cryptocoins? IMO we're going to new definition. This and next years value of cryptocurrency will be amount of services hosted on it. Internet of things is the near future. Microsoft investing a lot of $ in ethereum and they knowing what they doing. ETH isnt't another litecoin, dogecon... It's new technology like web 2.0.

In terms of the technology I agree.

In terms of the price I don't believe it can stay at these levels sustainably. It is a classic bubble, it will pop, and I believe it will stabilize again around 0.01 BTC. Of course I could be wrong.

There are already threads on the ETH forums where people are saying it is now too expensive to develop the dapps they were planning on the ETH network due to the current price.
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