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legendary
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https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/%5BEnglish%5D-Serpent-programming-language-operations has a typo on it, making it look like this:
It looks like the wiki github repo has "Issues" disabled.
I don't see any way to make a "pull request" since I'm unable to clone the wiki.
What's the recommended way of submitting a fix?
It's just a missing backtick here:
* `msg(to, value, gas, datastart, datalen, outputstart, outputlen)` - sends a message [...]

Fixed, thank you.

As for future fixes and revisions, github wikis can't be PR'ed, so the best way would be to contact me in any of our forums (forum.ethereum.org, reddit, this thread, etc).

Cheers!

I'm having more serious problem now:

1) I checked out the cpp-ethereum repo and tried following the wiki page to built the serpent client:
  https://github.com/ethereum/cpp-ethereum/wiki/Serpent-LLL-only-build

It failed to mention that I needed to build Cryptopp 5.6.2 from source first, and so the instructions fail completely. I wonder if there's even a need for that whole page - it's out of date, and is just a subset of the instructions on the main build page.

2) Then, on:
   https://github.com/ethereum/cpp-ethereum/wiki/Building-on-Ubuntu
it says that building cryptopp from source is "NOT NEEDED IF YOU JUST WANT SERPENT/LLL TOOLS" - but that seems to be untrue.

I wonder if it's worth getting someone who knows what they're doing to take a look at all the build instruction pages and fixing them so they're right.

3) Next, I saw:

    If later, you change your mind and you want to build the full version with the GUI, use:
    cmake .. -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release && make

I tried that after building the serpent/lll stuff only, and it didn't do anything. I have to delete and remake the build directory before it would build the full version.

4) And finally, once I had the full 'alethzero' thing built, I ran it, connected to a peer, and it reliably segfaults after downloading around 227 blocks. I'm now building a debug version so I can submit a more proper issue.
newbie
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I have been running the test client and am looking forward to the launch
member
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Is there a already a date set when Goldman Sachs will release this coin?
full member
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Ethereum
https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/%5BEnglish%5D-Serpent-programming-language-operations has a typo on it, making it look like this:
It looks like the wiki github repo has "Issues" disabled.
I don't see any way to make a "pull request" since I'm unable to clone the wiki.
What's the recommended way of submitting a fix?
It's just a missing backtick here:
* `msg(to, value, gas, datastart, datalen, outputstart, outputlen)` - sends a message [...]

Fixed, thank you.

As for future fixes and revisions, github wikis can't be PR'ed, so the best way would be to contact me in any of our forums (forum.ethereum.org, reddit, this thread, etc).

Cheers!
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/%5BEnglish%5D-Serpent-programming-language-operations has a typo on it, making it look like this:



It looks like the wiki github repo has "Issues" disabled.

I don't see any way to make a "pull request" since I'm unable to clone the wiki.

What's the recommended way of submitting a fix?

It's just a missing backtick here:

* `msg(to, value, gas, datastart, datalen, outputstart, outputlen)` - sends a message [...]
newbie
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Merit: 0
Haven't been keeping track of Ethereum for a while how has the progress been going in this system
Lot of technologies moving this year gets tricky keeping track of it all Smiley

Code is progressing very nicely - POC5 reference clients (on devel branches from github.com/ethereum) have graphic interfaces now baked in (HTML+CSS) which ultimately will be decentralized, too.

Quite a few community projects are in the making:
http://forum.ethereum.org/categories/projects
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJqWcTqh_zKET0XRWZsj68CcURHIsAxwE

And if you haven't seen Gav's presentation in London, it explain a lot of where we're going next:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJGIeSCgskc
Slides: www.slideshare.net/ethereum/the-ethereum-experience

Apart from that, it's all hands on deck for v1 release in Q4 2014. As for the Ether sale (a common question), we still haven't announced anything and won't do so until it's ready.

Cheers!

wow that London presentation is embarrassingly horrible... awesome sound too ;/
full member
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I have followed this project for a very long time.
legendary
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When does IPO or pre-sale start? Is there a timeline?

Hello blackhatzw - we haven't announced the date of the presale yet.
The mainnet is due to go live Q4 of this year.



So, ethereum is not coming to public before Jan 2015 ? Would it be CPU minable ? Is there any other way to support the project beforehand that may entitle to ether before its' public release ?
full member
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Ethereum
When does IPO or pre-sale start? Is there a timeline?

Hello blackhatzw - we haven't announced the date of the presale yet.
The mainnet is due to go live Q4 of this year.

hero member
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Never back down !!!
When does IPO or pre-sale start? Is there a timeline?

Maybe never. Goldman Sachs will keep it for itself.
sr. member
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I guess this coin (Voot) was quicker when it comes to some features:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=639371.1380
full member
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When does IPO or pre-sale start? Is there a timeline?
legendary
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Haven't been keeping track of Ethereum for a while how has the progress been going in this system
Lot of technologies moving this year gets tricky keeping track of it all Smiley

Code is progressing very nicely - POC5 reference clients (on devel branches from github.com/ethereum) have graphic interfaces now baked in (HTML+CSS) which ultimately will be decentralized, too.

Quite a few community projects are in the making:
http://forum.ethereum.org/categories/projects
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJqWcTqh_zKET0XRWZsj68CcURHIsAxwE

And if you haven't seen Gav's presentation in London, it explain a lot of where we're going next:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJGIeSCgskc
Slides: www.slideshare.net/ethereum/the-ethereum-experience

Apart from that, it's all hands on deck for v1 release in Q4 2014. As for the Ether sale (a common question), we still haven't announced anything and won't do so until it's ready.

Cheers!

Thanks for the update.
full member
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Merit: 100
Ethereum
Haven't been keeping track of Ethereum for a while how has the progress been going in this system
Lot of technologies moving this year gets tricky keeping track of it all Smiley

Code is progressing very nicely - POC5 reference clients (on devel branches from github.com/ethereum) have graphic interfaces now baked in (HTML+CSS) which ultimately will be decentralized, too.

Quite a few community projects are in the making:
http://forum.ethereum.org/categories/projects
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJqWcTqh_zKET0XRWZsj68CcURHIsAxwE

And if you haven't seen Gav's presentation in London, it explain a lot of where we're going next:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJGIeSCgskc
Slides: www.slideshare.net/ethereum/the-ethereum-experience

Apart from that, it's all hands on deck for v1 release in Q4 2014. As for the Ether sale (a common question), we still haven't announced anything and won't do so until it's ready.

Cheers!
legendary
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
Haven't been keeping track of Ethereum for a while how has the progress been going in this system
Lot of technologies moving this year gets tricky keeping track of it all Smiley
legendary
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51% Throttling

Since ether can theoretically be mined via CPU, GPU, HHD, and participating in a WMN, would it be a good idea to limit one way of mining to let say, 50 percent? For example, CPU generated ether cannot exceed 50 percent of the total ether in the network at the time it is mined. Ether generated by CPU will be throttled accordingly as it reaches 50% of the total supply of ether and all other ways of mining will be increased accordingly. This of course would mean that there must be a way to distinguish ether that is mined with CPU, GPU, and all others.

The idea behind 51% throttling is to make it difficult for a single organization to dominate the ether mining game. Additionally, there are a few other benefits from throttling. Throttling will encourage innovation in all forms technologies used for mining. For instance, if most of the ether is mined with CPUs and least of which is mined with HHDs and SSDs, the mining algorithm can (1) take ether mined with CPU and give it to people who are mining with HHDs or (2) lower the reward of ether to CPU miners and increase the reward to HHD miners. As a result, for the time being, more people will start to mine with SSDs and more people will buy SSDs, which will cause SSDs to become faster, higher capacity and cheaper. Every form of technology used for mining ether will go through this continuous cycle of mining and technological improvement.


The boldened portion is technically not possible unless the miner voluntarily declares it Smiley
newbie
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51% Throttling

Since ether can theoretically be mined via CPU, GPU, HHD, and participating in a WMN, would it be a good idea to limit one way of mining to let say, 50 percent? For example, CPU generated ether cannot exceed 50 percent of the total ether in the network at the time it is mined. Ether generated by CPU will be throttled accordingly as it reaches 50% of the total supply of ether and all other ways of mining will be increased accordingly. This of course would mean that there must be a way to distinguish ether that is mined with CPU, GPU, and all others.

The idea behind 51% throttling is to make it difficult for a single organization to dominate the ether mining game. Additionally, there are a few other benefits from throttling. Throttling will encourage innovation in all forms technologies used for mining. For instance, if most of the ether is mined with CPUs and least of which is mined with HHDs and SSDs, the mining algorithm can (1) take ether mined with CPU and give it to people who are mining with HHDs or (2) lower the reward of ether to CPU miners and increase the reward to HHD miners. As a result, for the time being, more people will start to mine with SSDs and more people will buy SSDs, which will cause SSDs to become faster, higher capacity and cheaper. Every form of technology used for mining ether will go through this continuous cycle of mining and technological improvement.
hero member
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to all ethereum advocators. ethereum is obvious vaporware. get into solid NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT.
legendary
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The Tortoise and the Hare... fable of La Fontaine, better start off at just the right moment for who knows to wait
Not always speed that matters,  specially in this new era, all "big" projects take time to apply fully and carefully, I would tend to consider a lot more a company wishing to build a strong basis before going mainstream rather than one that opens directly at the very beginning with all the hazard and uncertainty linked to the process. Ether, Nem, Zerocoin, Circle, they all follow the same logic, give a ready to use stabilized product before "launching" and all the better for us, final users.
Following carefully
For the Ether sale, best way to be sure, is on the ether forum on the dedicated, locked thread >> http://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/196/ether-sale-faq-live-updates. And it probably will make a big noise so it will be hard to miss (probably ann's on bitcoin newspapers, bitcoin magazine, CCN)




Thanks for sharing the link. was wondering when the Ether Sale would start.

Is it the case that we have to buy ether to get hold of it ? As I can see in The Issuance Model in Ethereum, it will be issued at a constant annual linear rate via the block mining process. As it has not yet began, can I expect that initially we'll be able to do CPU mining ?

Interested in Ethereum and expecting clarifications. Have some more questions.
b!z
legendary
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The Tortoise and the Hare... fable of La Fontaine, better start off at just the right moment for who knows to wait
Not always speed that matters,  specially in this new era, all "big" projects take time to apply fully and carefully, I would tend to consider a lot more a company wishing to build a strong basis before going mainstream rather than one that opens directly at the very beginning with all the hazard and uncertainty linked to the process. Ether, Nem, Zerocoin, Circle, they all follow the same logic, give a ready to use stabilized product before "launching" and all the better for us, final users.
Following carefully
For the Ether sale, best way to be sure, is on the ether forum on the dedicated, locked thread >> http://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/196/ether-sale-faq-live-updates. And it probably will make a big noise so it will be hard to miss (probably ann's on bitcoin newspapers, bitcoin magazine, CCN)




Thanks for sharing the link. was wondering when the Ether Sale would start.
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