Topic: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 1241. (Read 2006044 times)
More than just a rumour, i saw him in a recent video (a week or so ago on YT) saying IPO is only a matter of weeks away. Check out their forum, there is alot of talk regarding the IPO and all signs point to an imminent IPO (which will run for at least 4 weeks i think or up to 60 days ?). They have a crazy target of 30,000 Bitcoin though...Im not sure what happens if they dont meet their target...I believe it's 1000 Eth per BTC invested.. Q4 is the target time to have it up and running (at least the first version of it) not IPO
I hope they send an announcement email to all the subscribers of the newsletter for the IPO!
Just a rumor. Somebody said it was mentioned on Let's Talk Bitcoin's podcast but I didn't watch the whole thing. Doesn't seem real. I'm sure it would've been posted somewhere.
Is the rumor that the IPO will open up this month just a rumor?
Where you read about that?
Is the rumor that the IPO will open up this month just a rumor?
This is one of the most ambitious projects to be undertaken in the cryptoworld.
It could be a game changer IF the ethereum developers can deliver what they promise and develop a robust platform for services to be easily build upon. Watching closely.
When is the IPO going to take place ?
It could be a game changer IF the ethereum developers can deliver what they promise and develop a robust platform for services to be easily build upon. Watching closely.
When is the IPO going to take place ?
Q4 of 2014
Good, that way we will be investing in something closer to a finished product and not just based on powerpoint presentations.
And this will probably be during the next bitcoin bubble
So we could have more money then 
This is one of the most ambitious projects to be undertaken in the cryptoworld.
It could be a game changer IF the ethereum developers can deliver what they promise and develop a robust platform for services to be easily build upon. Watching closely.
When is the IPO going to take place ?
It could be a game changer IF the ethereum developers can deliver what they promise and develop a robust platform for services to be easily build upon. Watching closely.
When is the IPO going to take place ?
Q4 of 2014
Good, that way we will be investing in something closer to a finished product and not just based on powerpoint presentations.
This is one of the most ambitious projects to be undertaken in the cryptoworld.
It could be a game changer IF the ethereum developers can deliver what they promise and develop a robust platform for services to be easily build upon. Watching closely.
When is the IPO going to take place ?
It could be a game changer IF the ethereum developers can deliver what they promise and develop a robust platform for services to be easily build upon. Watching closely.
When is the IPO going to take place ?
Q4 of 2014
This is one of the most ambitious projects to be undertaken in the cryptoworld.
It could be a game changer IF the ethereum developers can deliver what they promise and develop a robust platform for services to be easily build upon. Watching closely.
When is the IPO going to take place ?
It could be a game changer IF the ethereum developers can deliver what they promise and develop a robust platform for services to be easily build upon. Watching closely.
When is the IPO going to take place ?
Now they get nervous
also here a detailed description:
http://ciyam.org/nxt/
The nxt implememtation of turing languae is called AT or automated transactions. Its not live yet though. hopefully soon!
NXT is also "Turing complete" with their Automatic Transactions feature. It will probably compete with Ethereum.
Seriusly? Where can i see that?https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-automated-transactions-at-progress-and-discussion-463731
NXT is also "Turing complete" with their Automatic Transactions feature. It will probably compete with Ethereum.
Seriusly? Where can i see that?
NXT is also "Turing complete" with their Automatic Transactions feature. It will probably compete with Ethereum.
I was at an Ethereum meet last night. The sale will happen next quarter, expected to be within a month (so said an Ethereum team member). Ethereum itself won't be ready until Q4 earliest, and even then it'll be very early days.
Classic IPO ... investing in an idea before anything is done,
No, you can just use and test Ethereum client and protocol.
I was at an Ethereum meet last night. The sale will happen next quarter, expected to be within a month (so said an Ethereum team member). Ethereum itself won't be ready until Q4 earliest, and even then it'll be very early days.
Classic IPO ... investing in an idea before anything is done, they have to pay all their founders, staff, and partners somehow. What's the premine at these days?
sorry for the ignorance, but when begin the fundraising?
+1Have a little understanding of the Ethereum Ecosystem
sorry for the ignorance, but when begin the fundraising?
This coin looked really exciting, but after thinking about this for 5 minutes, I have some questions:
1. The VM is too low level, efficient algorithms cannot be used.
It seems that contracts will have to use a fixed number of instructions. If a contract tries to use any randomized data structure or any structure that is not completely deterministic, then it is vulnerable to DoS. Any contract that tries to keep some ethers stashed away in order to use algorithms that work well on average is vulnerable to DoS.
This indicates to me that the VM should be at a higher level where concepts such as collections of items, priority queues etc. are available. The implementation can then use efficient data structures, making contracts more versatile and cheaper for everybody.
This doesn't just move the DoS problem to miners. Miners can change the implementation of these data structures dynamically or at will.
This inefficiency means that a competing implementation of this idea will have better applications.
2. How are contracts updated when resource pricing changes?
When the developers choose to change the fees, how can contracts be updated? If a business is started based on a given contract, and the developers change the base fee, the business might be killed. This makes the setting of the base fee a highly controversial issue, potentially with lawsuits from businesses relying on this.
This is complicated by contracts carrying state. An incumbent gets an advantage by knowing the current resource prices.
3. Extra pricing for reading foreign memory runs counter to a robust security architecture for contracts.
For complex services implemented as contracts, it would be desirable to isolate subcomponents or services as separate contracts. The extra cost incurred by doing proper isolation of the memory space means that a competing service with a worse security architecture needs lower fees. This is bad.
4. Is reliable time available to contracts?
Without reliable time, no specific time can be given for elections, which renders them useless.
1. The VM is too low level, efficient algorithms cannot be used.
It seems that contracts will have to use a fixed number of instructions. If a contract tries to use any randomized data structure or any structure that is not completely deterministic, then it is vulnerable to DoS. Any contract that tries to keep some ethers stashed away in order to use algorithms that work well on average is vulnerable to DoS.
This indicates to me that the VM should be at a higher level where concepts such as collections of items, priority queues etc. are available. The implementation can then use efficient data structures, making contracts more versatile and cheaper for everybody.
This doesn't just move the DoS problem to miners. Miners can change the implementation of these data structures dynamically or at will.
This inefficiency means that a competing implementation of this idea will have better applications.
2. How are contracts updated when resource pricing changes?
When the developers choose to change the fees, how can contracts be updated? If a business is started based on a given contract, and the developers change the base fee, the business might be killed. This makes the setting of the base fee a highly controversial issue, potentially with lawsuits from businesses relying on this.
This is complicated by contracts carrying state. An incumbent gets an advantage by knowing the current resource prices.
3. Extra pricing for reading foreign memory runs counter to a robust security architecture for contracts.
For complex services implemented as contracts, it would be desirable to isolate subcomponents or services as separate contracts. The extra cost incurred by doing proper isolation of the memory space means that a competing service with a worse security architecture needs lower fees. This is bad.
4. Is reliable time available to contracts?
Without reliable time, no specific time can be given for elections, which renders them useless.
Well said astor.
In case people don't understand, Ethereum project want to make the impossible. Simple as that.
You can have all the faith and hope, if Ethereum project can't be done, it can't be done.
I know it is hard to accept it because of all the great promises of "changing the world and blabla" but you better forget about it and go on.
PS : That's just my opinion. Keep waiting for the messiah if you like.
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