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December 19, 2016, 03:53:57 PM
Someone can light me up how to sync mist wallet?Parity does not work.
legendary
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#Free market
December 19, 2016, 03:34:19 PM
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On December 16, we were made aware that someone had recently gained unauthorized access to a database from forum.ethereum.org. We immediately launched a thorough investigation to determine the origin, nature, and scope of this incident. Here is what we know:

The information that was recently accessed is a database backup from April 2016 and contained information about 16.5k forum users.
The leaked information includes:
  • Messages, both public and private
  • IP-addresses
  • Username and email addresses
  • Profile information
  • Hashed passwords
  • ~13k bcrypt hashes (salted)
  • ~1.5k WordPress-hashes (salted)
  • ~2k accounts without passwords (used federated login)
  • The attacker self-disclosed that they are the same person/persons who recently hacked Bo Shen.
  • The attacker used social engineering to gain access to a mobile phone number that allowed them to gain access to other accounts, one of which had access to an old database backup from the forum.


https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/12/19/security-alert-12192016-ethereum-org-forums-database-compromised/
legendary
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December 19, 2016, 02:49:05 PM
Excellent  description of the recent forking we've seen. Hopefully this summarizes it  for the layman, and clears up a lot of the misinformation going around...

https://medium.com/consensys-media/omg-ethereum-is-so-hard-forked-e8099749c27c#
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December 19, 2016, 08:42:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCRna2B9DHw

Vitalik is the next satoshi nakamoto 2.0!!!!!!!!!
 Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

you think vitalik will disapear like satoshi ?
becouse to disapear was a very selfles gift to humanity

Vitalk will keep on working for the community.
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2009 Alea iacta est
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December 18, 2016, 11:43:59 AM
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legendary
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December 18, 2016, 11:33:56 AM
What etherum below ico price nothing i say.I never invest in etherum ico.

its just not gonna happen guys, give it up...
legendary
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December 18, 2016, 11:01:36 AM
Zcash was a known scam because ver is a known scammer. Vitaly got lucky scamming because he was new

how he scammed? I heard that the price hit 70x of ICO price...

Fake hype, bad technology, pump and dump

however it's still keeping the pretty high price  ;-)

What will you say when it drops below ICO price?

I am will buy all eth below ICO price Grin Not one i am will do this Smiley
legendary
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hero member
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December 18, 2016, 07:45:59 AM
Its your own fault if you lose money on this projekt. Coding was not ready and there are flaws. To much money was pumped in and the result we  can see today. When the price goes up everybody are happy. When it goes down ppl shouting scam. Ppl think they will be rich and throw money into something they dont understand. Eth is faulty by design but you should not throw money into it if you cant afford to lose it. I never bougt any.
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December 18, 2016, 06:52:25 AM
What etherum below ico price nothing i say.I never invest in etherum ico.
legendary
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December 18, 2016, 06:43:46 AM
Zcash was a known scam because ver is a known scammer. Vitaly got lucky scamming because he was new

how he scammed? I heard that the price hit 70x of ICO price...

Fake hype, bad technology, pump and dump

however it's still keeping the pretty high price  ;-)

What will you say when it drops below ICO price?
legendary
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December 17, 2016, 08:49:04 PM
ETC will have limited supply. Ethf has unlimited token supply, unlimited forks, unlimited inflation and pos will be the final nail in the coffin. Vitaly is a criminal.

What is the problem of POS? inflation?

That plus it's the definition of a ponzi. The top holders will get free tokens for life at the expense of new entrants and then constantly dump on new investors.

I don't think you know what a ponzi scheme is, then.

From Wikipedia: A Ponzi scheme (/ˈpɒn.zi/; also a Ponzi game)[1] is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned through legitimate sources. Operators of Ponzi schemes usually entice new investors by offering higher returns than other investments, in the form of short-term returns that are either abnormally high or unusually consistent.

Given this actual definition of a ponzie scheme, how exactly is PoS implementation on a public blockchain a ponzi, and how does that make "Vitaly a criminal"?

Note: I'm not expecting bitpop to actually be able to answer this.  Rarely, in the face of rational and logical reasoning, has he been able to say anything that amounts to more than just fud.

is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned through legitimate sources. Operators of Ponzi schemes usually entice new investors by offering higher returns than other investments, in the form of short-term returns that are either abnormally high or unusually consistent.

Care to answer any of those questions I posed bitpop? Or all you can do is repeat what I said?

It's the definition of a ponzi, there are no questions. And vitaly owning a ponzi makes him a criminal.

Lol we quite definitively established that it's not the definition of a ponzi, by the fucking definition itself!  Cheesy You do speak English, right? I'll break it down for you:

  • a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors: Vitalik is neither the operator, individual, nor organization who is paying returns to investors.
  • ...from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned through legitimate sources.: PoS rewards are not issued from capital paid to the operators by the new investors.  These rewards are generated via the protocol, in exchange for miners processing transactions and minting new blocks.
  • Operators of Ponzi schemes usually entice new investors by offering higher returns than other investments, in the form of short-term returns that are either abnormally high or unusually consistent.:  PoS implementation in no way solicits abnormally high short-term returns on investment.  Certainly no more than PoW does.  The currently expected numbers in the latest Muave paper from Vitalik prove this.

Maybe...you don't understand how PoS works?  Huh I mean, you know that the person with the highest stake doesn't always get to mine the next block, right?  IMO, the proposed Casper implementation is very creative and elegant solution to that particular problem (Block selection variants).  Cool

So,
Care to answer any of those questions I posed bitpop? Or all you can do is repeat what I said?
Grin Grin

I'm still waiting for you to back up your statements, bitpop?  Can you?
legendary
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
December 17, 2016, 07:59:33 PM
Zcash was a known scam because ver is a known scammer. Vitaly got lucky scamming because he was new

how he scammed? I heard that the price hit 70x of ICO price...

LOL yea exactly where is the scam. anyone who has bought can sell at good profit, so again i ask where is the scam?

You  will hold until $0 because you're ignorant while vitaly and team finish dumping on you
Bitpop still butthurt....  Cheesy
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=388169.0;imode


I've gotten more Bitcoin, what's that have to do with ethf?

Stay delusional but the truth is people like mrpumper were dumping on you while they pumped and now they're gone and you're holding the bag

It serves as much purpose as your pollution on this thread..
 
Why would it concern you if we support Vitalik and the ethereum project or not?
legendary
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
December 17, 2016, 07:47:12 PM
Zcash was a known scam because ver is a known scammer. Vitaly got lucky scamming because he was new

how he scammed? I heard that the price hit 70x of ICO price...

LOL yea exactly where is the scam. anyone who has bought can sell at good profit, so again i ask where is the scam?

You  will hold until $0 because you're ignorant while vitaly and team finish dumping on you
Bitpop still butthurt....  Cheesy
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=388169.0;imode
hero member
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December 17, 2016, 07:20:31 PM
Zcash was a known scam because ver is a known scammer. Vitaly got lucky scamming because he was new

how he scammed? I heard that the price hit 70x of ICO price...

LOL yea exactly where is the scam. anyone who has bought can sell at good profit, so again i ask where is the scam?
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December 17, 2016, 07:08:36 PM
Zcash was a known scam because ver is a known scammer. Vitaly got lucky scamming because he was new

how he scammed? I heard that the price hit 70x of ICO price...

Fake hype, bad technology, pump and dump

however it's still keeping the pretty high price  ;-)
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December 17, 2016, 07:03:16 PM
Zcash was a known scam because ver is a known scammer. Vitaly got lucky scamming because he was new

how he scammed? I heard that the price hit 70x of ICO price...
legendary
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
December 17, 2016, 06:55:07 PM
IncludeBeer:

" If you offer free money to 100 people: 100 of the 100 will take it. It's human nature and that's why presales are shady. "

One of the best descriptions I've read on why presales, ICOs, IPOs, and ITOs are bad. In only one sentence too.



as I heard this presale was pretty profitable ;-)

Presales are very profitable for the insiders. Not so much for the general public with whom most end up holding a bag of expensive tokens. Eth, for example, I would guess despite its pump would have the highest number of bagholders ever spawned in crypto.

Don't forget zcash, I think it may be the record holder for taking money from idiots  Cheesy
legendary
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December 17, 2016, 05:14:02 PM
IncludeBeer:

" If you offer free money to 100 people: 100 of the 100 will take it. It's human nature and that's why presales are shady. "

One of the best descriptions I've read on why presales, ICOs, IPOs, and ITOs are bad. In only one sentence too.



as I heard this presale was pretty profitable ;-)

Presales are very profitable for the insiders. Not so much for the general public with whom most end up holding a bag of expensive tokens. Eth, for example, I would guess despite its pump would have the highest number of bagholders ever spawned in crypto.
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