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Topic: [ANN] HEAT: 3.0 crypto*multisig fiat*a2a hft*1000tps*DSA*PoS+PoP*e2ee chat* - page 124. (Read 418460 times)

hero member
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Heatledger.com
The new GUI wallet with embedded server actually seems to work ok for easy forging. Other usage like AE will need tomorrow's patch.
legendary
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There's a new wallet pre-release available on github https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heatwallet/releases

It's not fully usable as desired and will be patched likely within 24 hrs, so the usual release parties (ie. announcement) are postponed.

Github times are off for unknown reason. Wallet 1.0.3 wasn't released 11 days ago but about 4 hours ago.
Mining/forging!!  Cool
hero member
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Heatledger.com
AE shows incorrect balances, looks like some of my BTC assets just disappeared.
Orders can't be cancelled - I have 3 ask/bid orders made 3 days ago, and I can't cancel them, it's showing an error message. Money just stucked.
These are likely UI issues many of which will be handled in the next update, or bad transactions from time prior the fork and now under control.

Thanks for posting your account sample history, we'll be closely inspecting your account to see if there's actually anything wrong that hasn't been spotted.

Small change live trading on the exchange is encouraged (not for you dance please Smiley while we catch up with you), with any reports of strange behavior welcome.

Heat team, please use some of the funds you collected for the purpose of this effort using suitable specialized personnel.
Under progress. Regarding inhouse personnel, the marketing core team member public application period (local) has ended with some excellent candidates presented. We'll be in position to decide who is hired by the end of next week.
full member
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As HEAT becomes more stable and gets additional functionalities (hopefully we see these things happen in the coming days) we should see an increase in trading volume and price.
If things proceed well (as the above mentioned materializes) i believe we can see additional exchanges adding heat for trading and additional increase in traction.
Once this gets stable enough and up to specs, a major PR effort should be taken in as many outlets as possible (articles, interviews, advertising and so on). Heat team, please use some of the funds you collected for the purpose of this effort using suitable specialized personnel.
More stable?
AE shows incorrect balances, looks like some of my BTC assets just disappeared.
Orders can't be cancelled - I have 3 ask/bid orders made 3 days ago, and I can't cancel them, it's showing an error message. Money just stucked.
hero member
Activity: 500
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As HEAT becomes more stable and gets additional functionalities (hopefully we see these things happen in the coming days) we should see an increase in trading volume and price.
If things proceed well (as the above mentioned materializes) i believe we can see additional exchanges adding heat for trading and additional increase in traction.
Once this gets stable enough and up to specs, a major PR effort should be taken in as many outlets as possible (articles, interviews, advertising and so on). Heat team, please use some of the funds you collected for the purpose of this effort using suitable specialized personnel.
hero member
Activity: 773
Merit: 500
Heatledger.com
There's a new wallet pre-release available on github https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heatwallet/releases

It's not fully usable as desired and will be patched likely within 24 hrs, so the usual release parties (ie. announcement) are postponed.

Github times are off for unknown reason. Wallet 1.0.3 wasn't released 11 days ago but about 4 hours ago.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
After negotiations C-CEX have confirmed to us they'll do everything possible to implement the HEAT wallet and keep HEAT trading on their exchange.

According to our understanding this with high likelihood means multiplying the HEAT holdings there by ~1.5x tomorrow Feb 9th.

Is it not possible for you to make clear statements? Always some bs like "according to our understanding" or "As far as we know"  or "high likelyhood" and then when it doesn't turn out that way you smug your way out by saying "we didn't promise anything...". This lawyer jingo mingo pisses me off. Are you guys retarded or something? Is it really so hard to have a conversation where you clear such things out? This is unbelieveable! xD

It's quite simple really.  They can't speak for C-CEX and won't know for sure that what they say will be true until it happens.

So yeah, they hedge the statements in this way because of past C-CEX behavior.  Don't invent drama where none is warranted.



Man, I know they can not speak for ccex, but they can speak with them(Or maybe they can not even that). If there would be ANY uncertainity about ccex, I would grab the fucking phone and call ccex and ask them what's up?! Is it really so hard to just communicate until the issues are resolved? Like if they don't know if they will apply the multiplier, just contact them and ask when they will apply the multiplier?! Is that really so hard? This is communication 101. It sometimes feels like we are dealing with an infant here. Uhhh babyboo is mad and doesn't want to talk to badyboo investors? No clarifying today? Uhhh no problem just go back to sleepywoo.  Dadadoo!
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After negotiations C-CEX have confirmed to us they'll do everything possible to implement the HEAT wallet and keep HEAT trading on their exchange.

According to our understanding this with high likelihood means multiplying the HEAT holdings there by ~1.5x tomorrow Feb 9th.

Is it not possible for you to make clear statements? Always some bs like "according to our understanding" or "As far as we know"  or "high likelyhood" and then when it doesn't turn out that way you smug your way out by saying "we didn't promise anything...". This lawyer jingo mingo pisses me off. Are you guys retarded or something? Is it really so hard to have a conversation where you clear such things out? This is unbelieveable! xD

It's quite simple really.  They can't speak for C-CEX and won't know for sure that what they say will be true until it happens.

So yeah, they hedge the statements in this way because of past C-CEX behavior.  Don't invent drama where none is warranted.

hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
After negotiations C-CEX have confirmed to us they'll do everything possible to implement the HEAT wallet and keep HEAT trading on their exchange.

According to our understanding this with high likelihood means multiplying the HEAT holdings there by ~1.5x tomorrow Feb 9th.

Is it not possible for you to make clear statements? Always some bs like "according to our understanding" or "As far as we know"  or "high likelyhood" and then when it doesn't turn out that way you smug your way out by saying "we didn't promise anything...". This lawyer jingo mingo pisses me off. Are you guys retarded or something? Is it really so hard to have a conversation where you clear such things out? This is unbelieveable! xD
sr. member
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shoutofgaia
After negotiations C-CEX have confirmed to us they'll do everything possible to implement the HEAT wallet and keep HEAT trading on their exchange.

According to our understanding this with high likelihood means multiplying the HEAT holdings there by ~1.5x tomorrow Feb 9th.

Well, seems like a victory for the books. Glad to here, thou ain't gonna touch that exchange.
hero member
Activity: 773
Merit: 500
Heatledger.com
After negotiations C-CEX have confirmed to us they'll do everything possible to implement the HEAT wallet and keep HEAT trading on their exchange.

According to our understanding this with high likelihood means multiplying the HEAT holdings there by ~1.5x tomorrow Feb 9th.
hero member
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As far as I know the fork was activated during the what you called ninja mining.

At what block height will the new more stable fork be activated?
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
After trading on Asset Exchange, I have around 1.1 BTC disappeared and 13k more HEAT than I should have.
Calculated in accordance to all my deposit/withdraw/trading history and currently pending orders.
As stated earlier, order cancellations that were submitted before a single confirmation has come in for the original order, were unfortunately revoked (rolled back) by necessity in the fixing of invalid transactions.

Any cases needing clarification are best to be handled by contacting support at heatledger dot com, thanks.

If something was rolled back in the blockchain, it must not be showing in wallet history.
If something was processed in the blockchain, it must be showing.

All calculations must be absolutely correct.

So, there is either errors in displayed history or errors in consensus calculations.

Fault-safe trading on asset exchange is crucial for everyone so it is better to discuss in public.

My account number is 8346469662673985373.

Deposit/withdraw history:
2017-02-04 16:36:02   - 1.00000000  HEAT   keyboard_arrow_up   17305004389900736998   
2017-02-04 16:11:28   - 20,000.00000000  HEAT   keyboard_arrow_up   12108992959664252068   
2017-02-01 19:04:24   + 0.02000000  HEAT   keyboard_arrow_down   9583431768758058558   
2017-02-01 02:56:33   - 20,000.00000000  HEAT   keyboard_arrow_up   12108992959664252068   
2017-02-01 01:41:57   + 1.00000000  BTC   keyboard_arrow_down   9583431768758058558   
GENESIS   + 44,242.42395000  HEAT   keyboard_arrow_down   8150091319858025343   

Trades history:
Buy 2017-02-06 12:44:32 0.00007000 1,066.05385714 0.07462377
Buy 2017-02-06 04:13:01 0.00007000 28.57157143 0.00200001
Buy 2017-02-06 04:04:30 0.00007000 257.14285714 0.01800000
Buy 2017-02-05 15:22:21 0.00007000 2,648.23171429 0.18537622
Buy 2017-02-05 15:20:07 0.00007000 2,366.86021991 0.16568022
Buy 2017-02-03 22:13:44 0.00007000 142.85714286 0.01000000
Buy 2017-02-03 22:08:25 0.00007000 2,190.28263723 0.15331978
Buy 2017-02-01 22:38:07 0.00007000 3,000.00000000 0.21000000
Buy 2017-02-01 19:13:51 0.00007199 3,851.00000000 0.27723349
Buy 2017-02-01 19:13:51 0.00007100 149.00000000 0.01057900
Buy 2017-02-01 02:06:37 0.00005000 50.00000000 0.00250000
Ask 2017-02-01 01:50:23 0.00005000 30.00000000 0.00150000
Ask 2017-02-01 01:50:23 0.00008900 10.00000000 0.00089000
Buy 2017-02-01 01:21:39 0.00010000 1.00000000 0.00010000
Ask 2017-02-01 01:02:47 0.00001150 799.00000000 0.00918850
Ask 2017-02-01 01:01:07 0.00010000 60.00000000 0.00600000
Ask 2017-02-01 01:01:07 0.00010800 400.00000000 0.04320000
Ask 2017-02-01 01:01:07 0.00011000 179.00000000 0.01969000
Ask 2017-02-01 01:01:07 0.00011100 50.00000000 0.00555000
Ask 2017-02-01 01:01:07 0.00011500 9.00000000 0.00103500

Pending orders:
Buy BTC/HEAT 12,500.00000000 0.00003000 0.37500000 2017-02-11 22:18:59 Cancel
Buy BTC/HEAT 12,500.00000000 0.00004000 0.50000000 2017-02-11 22:18:43 Cancel
Ask BTC/HEAT 3,000.00000000 0.00070000 2.10000000 2017-02-11 02:08:16 Cancel

According to all above, I should now be having 2,02 BTC and -9969 (negative value) HEAT

My current displayed balances:
HEAT 274.84395000
BTC 0.05246398

Summarized with pending orders, I have 0.92 BTC and 3274 HEAT.

You preordered 44000 HEAT? Boy you are in deep shit! I hope you ordered with that worthless fimk, otherwise you must be pretty angry! xD
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At what block height will the new more stable fork be activated?
full member
Activity: 189
Merit: 100
After trading on Asset Exchange, I have around 1.1 BTC disappeared and 13k more HEAT than I should have.
Calculated in accordance to all my deposit/withdraw/trading history and currently pending orders.
As stated earlier, order cancellations that were submitted before a single confirmation has come in for the original order, were unfortunately revoked (rolled back) by necessity in the fixing of invalid transactions.

Any cases needing clarification are best to be handled by contacting support at heatledger dot com, thanks.

If something was rolled back in the blockchain, it must not be showing in wallet history.
If something was processed in the blockchain, it must be showing.

All calculations must be absolutely correct.

So, there is either errors in displayed history or errors in consensus calculations.

Fault-safe trading on asset exchange is crucial for everyone so it is better to discuss in public.

My account number is 8346469662673985373.

Deposit/withdraw history:
2017-02-04 16:36:02   - 1.00000000  HEAT   keyboard_arrow_up   17305004389900736998   
2017-02-04 16:11:28   - 20,000.00000000  HEAT   keyboard_arrow_up   12108992959664252068   
2017-02-01 19:04:24   + 0.02000000  HEAT   keyboard_arrow_down   9583431768758058558   
2017-02-01 02:56:33   - 20,000.00000000  HEAT   keyboard_arrow_up   12108992959664252068   
2017-02-01 01:41:57   + 1.00000000  BTC   keyboard_arrow_down   9583431768758058558   
GENESIS   + 44,242.42395000  HEAT   keyboard_arrow_down   8150091319858025343   

Trades history:
Buy 2017-02-06 12:44:32 0.00007000 1,066.05385714 0.07462377
Buy 2017-02-06 04:13:01 0.00007000 28.57157143 0.00200001
Buy 2017-02-06 04:04:30 0.00007000 257.14285714 0.01800000
Buy 2017-02-05 15:22:21 0.00007000 2,648.23171429 0.18537622
Buy 2017-02-05 15:20:07 0.00007000 2,366.86021991 0.16568022
Buy 2017-02-03 22:13:44 0.00007000 142.85714286 0.01000000
Buy 2017-02-03 22:08:25 0.00007000 2,190.28263723 0.15331978
Buy 2017-02-01 22:38:07 0.00007000 3,000.00000000 0.21000000
Buy 2017-02-01 19:13:51 0.00007199 3,851.00000000 0.27723349
Buy 2017-02-01 19:13:51 0.00007100 149.00000000 0.01057900
Buy 2017-02-01 02:06:37 0.00005000 50.00000000 0.00250000
Ask 2017-02-01 01:50:23 0.00005000 30.00000000 0.00150000
Ask 2017-02-01 01:50:23 0.00008900 10.00000000 0.00089000
Buy 2017-02-01 01:21:39 0.00010000 1.00000000 0.00010000
Ask 2017-02-01 01:02:47 0.00001150 799.00000000 0.00918850
Ask 2017-02-01 01:01:07 0.00010000 60.00000000 0.00600000
Ask 2017-02-01 01:01:07 0.00010800 400.00000000 0.04320000
Ask 2017-02-01 01:01:07 0.00011000 179.00000000 0.01969000
Ask 2017-02-01 01:01:07 0.00011100 50.00000000 0.00555000
Ask 2017-02-01 01:01:07 0.00011500 9.00000000 0.00103500

Pending orders:
Buy BTC/HEAT 12,500.00000000 0.00003000 0.37500000 2017-02-11 22:18:59 Cancel
Buy BTC/HEAT 12,500.00000000 0.00004000 0.50000000 2017-02-11 22:18:43 Cancel
Ask BTC/HEAT 3,000.00000000 0.00070000 2.10000000 2017-02-11 02:08:16 Cancel

According to all above, I should now be having 2,02 BTC and -9969 (negative value) HEAT

My current displayed balances:
HEAT 274.84395000
BTC 0.05246398

Summarized with pending orders, I have 0.92 BTC and 3274 HEAT.
hero member
Activity: 773
Merit: 500
Heatledger.com
After trading on Asset Exchange, I have around 1.1 BTC disappeared and 13k more HEAT than I should have.
Calculated in accordance to all my deposit/withdraw/trading history and currently pending orders.
As stated earlier, order cancellations that were submitted before a single confirmation has come in for the original order, were unfortunately revoked (rolled back) by necessity in the fixing of invalid transactions.

Any cases needing clarification are best to be handled by contacting support at heatledger dot com, thanks.
full member
Activity: 189
Merit: 100
After trading on Asset Exchange, I have around 1.1 BTC disappeared and 13k more HEAT than I should have.

Calculated in accordance to all my deposit/withdraw/trading history and currently pending orders.
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
So is there a way to get HEAT now ?
sr. member
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Merit: 250
i thought the new wallet was already supposed to be released what is the status
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jl777's and Supernet assistance as the highest HEAT stakeholder and major forger have been indispensable in clearing up the early phases of the network. Any "priviliged" forging for a few hours that's technically required from one or a few large forgers to keep the network in order, needs to be limited in attendance otherwise it misses the purpose of stabilizing a fork and harms the project's progress by scattering the blockchain to numerous instances. Bold theoretical principles of equality and fairness can be speculated but unfortunately there's no middle ground there for any practical purposes. Testnet testing and ample preparation time for sizable maneuvers are impossible due to time restricted circumstances.

If required, I'll personally cover the costs of any such rewards being re-distributed to the stakeholders or community when appropriate.

I'm not asking you or anyone else to cover the costs of this episode.  Or burn, or donate, etc.

I'm asking you to do better in the future.  This approach to new releases is abysmal.  Perhaps the circumstances dictated this procedure for now, but you must come up with a better procedure and tools.

"Bold theoretical principles of equality and fairness".  What a sloppy statement.  You know people don't take kindly to ninja-mining in this space, right?  Nothing theoretical about it, the PoS system performs quite well at choosing a forger by lottery.
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