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sr. member
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Is the new version let forge from inside the wallet like the previous one?
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What is the status of Alcurex staking were they on the right chain? When can we expect payouts?
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I really need to know.  Were there a privileged few who got early access to forge alone on the main chain for several hours?  Not cool if true.
Anyone knows who "supernet" is?

The "who" doesn't matter.  It's the "how" that does.

  • Developer creates a private 0.9.4 release
  • Developer gives this release to a few buddies (7 nodes other than heatwallet.com by my count prior to public release)
  • Developer and buddies create a fork and gain all rewards for several hours on their fucked up 0.9.4 chain
  • Nobody else can join that chain because software is not available
  • 0.9.4 is finally made public and forces everyone to the fucked up chain

This is not acceptable.  One of the most important jobs of a blockchain developer is to maintain fairness in blockchain rewards.  This is non-negotiable, and any blockchain developer that disagrees needs to find a new line of work.

For a developer to create a fork for him and his buddies and then force it as the main chain is totally messed up.  This belongs on a discarded testnet chain.

Don't do it again.



I see your point, what are the chances that it was a logistical problem? How long were they ninja mining?

Well, this is the second time Dennis has shown aloofness towards maintaining fair rewards, so go figure.
Maybe it wasn't thought out.  BUT IT NEEDS TO BE!!!  This shit gotta stop!

They were ninja mining for at least 3 hours, maybe more.

EDIT: Here's a refresher:
  • Clone the main chain to a testnet
  • Invite a few buddies to testnet.
  • When tested to satisfaction, discard the testnet chain!
  • Simultaneous public release to everyone (including heatwallet.com and heatwallet download)
  • Coincident announcement on all major channels


member
Activity: 105
Merit: 11
I really need to know.  Were there a privileged few who got early access to forge alone on the main chain for several hours?  Not cool if true.
Anyone knows who "supernet" is?

The "who" doesn't matter.  It's the "how" that does.

  • Developer creates a private 0.9.4 release
  • Developer gives this release to a few buddies (7 nodes other than heatwallet.com by my count prior to public release)
  • Developer and buddies create a fork and gain all rewards for several hours on their fucked up 0.9.4 chain
  • Nobody else can join that chain because software is not available
  • 0.9.4 is finally made public and forces everyone to the fucked up chain

This is not acceptable.  One of the most important jobs of a blockchain developer is to maintain fairness in blockchain rewards.  This is non-negotiable, and any blockchain developer that disagrees needs to find a new line of work.

For a developer to create a fork for him and his buddies and then force it as the main chain is totally messed up.  This belongs on a discarded testnet chain.

Don't do it again.



I see your point, what are the chances that it was a logistical problem? How long were they ninja mining?
sr. member
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shoutofgaia
Finally got on board with 0.9.4. Can't wait for the wallet later tonight. Hopefully this put a stop to all the 'extra' effort had to be put in to keep on mining. Thou, with the generous reward, a little extra hasn't been that tough.
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I really need to know.  Were there a privileged few who got early access to forge alone on the main chain for several hours?  Not cool if true.
Anyone knows who "supernet" is?

The "who" doesn't matter.  It's the "how" that does.

  • Developer creates a private 0.9.4 release
  • Developer gives this release to a few buddies (7 nodes other than heatwallet.com by my count prior to public release)
  • Developer and buddies create a fork and gain all rewards for several hours on their fucked up 0.9.4 chain
  • Nobody else can join that chain because software is not available
  • 0.9.4 is finally made public and forces everyone to the fucked up chain

This is not acceptable.  One of the most important jobs of a blockchain developer is to maintain fairness in blockchain rewards.  This is non-negotiable, and any blockchain developer that disagrees needs to find a new line of work.

For a developer to create a fork for him and his buddies and then force it as the main chain is totally messed up.  This belongs on a discarded testnet chain.

Don't do it again.


member
Activity: 105
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I really need to know.  Were there a privileged few who got early access to forge alone on the main chain for several hours?  Not cool if true.
Anyone knows who "supernet" is?

Supernet is organisation behind Komodo and iguana, have many assets and interesting projects. Big holder of some other coins like Heat.
They seem to be doing mighty fine for themselves  Tongue
sr. member
Activity: 756
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I really need to know.  Were there a privileged few who got early access to forge alone on the main chain for several hours?  Not cool if true.
Anyone knows who "supernet" is?

Supernet is organisation behind Komodo and iguana, have many assets and interesting projects. Big holder of some other coins like Heat.
sr. member
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I really need to know.  Were there a privileged few who got early access to forge alone on the main chain for several hours?  Not cool if true.
Anyone knows who "supernet" is?

Google does Smiley
member
Activity: 105
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I really need to know.  Were there a privileged few who got early access to forge alone on the main chain for several hours?  Not cool if true.
Anyone knows who "supernet" is?
sr. member
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into the clusterfuck
So can we forge within the wallet now or have to wait for that to be updated as well?
Heatwallet seems to be on 0.9.3 still..
legendary
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So can we forge within the wallet now or have to wait for that to be updated as well?
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But there are much better ways to handle this kind of 'early-access' testing.  It's not rocket science.  Hell, it's only blockchain science.

Here's what you do:
* Fork the main chain to a testnet
* Invite your privileged few to help you test it on the testnet.
* When testing is complete, discard the testnet chain!

IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT!  This 'privilege' bullshit is fucked up.  Don't do it again.

Final point:
* After tested to satisfaction (on the discarded testnet chain):
   * Simultaneous public release to everyone (including heatwallet.com and heatwallet download)
   * Coincident announcement on all major channels

You have to get this right in the future.  Early access to a privileged few is reprehensible.
hero member
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What if he's invited to join the new fork?

Then that's favoritism bullshit that I will not stand for.
I really need to know.  Were there a privileged few who got early access to forge alone on the main chain for several hours?  Not cool if true.

xD So great! Yeah Heat is not very cool, glad you recognized that! Those people that are privileged are the ones on the slack. They are making decissions in private and we are the idiots that have to follow them... And if you don't agree with them on the slack then they simply kick you out. Privileged miners, CCEX funds are kept by Heat team, which fork we have to follow gets also decided on the slack. This HEAT coin is the biggest ripoff I have ever seen. I already stopped forging a long time ago.FUCK HEAT!

Just because I'm pissed off about this does not mean I agree with you on anything.

But there are much better ways to handle this kind of 'early-access' testing.  It's not rocket science.  Hell, it's only blockchain science.

Here's what you do:
* Fork the main chain to a testnet
* Invite your privileged few to help you test it on the testnet.
* When testing is complete, discard the testnet chain!

IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT!  This 'privilege' bullshit is fucked up.  Don't do it again.

Hey man you don't need to agree with me and you are right, it is very simple to avoid privileged mining, that is why it is obvious that this is no mistake, no this is done on purpose! They try to fuck us wherever they can. Where is the promised buywall? Ah forget about it, my faith is gone. I don't even believe they will divide the ccex heat on the investors. Such ripoff man! Fuck that shit brah!
member
Activity: 94
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What if he's invited to join the new fork?

Then that's favoritism bullshit that I will not stand for.
I really need to know.  Were there a privileged few who got early access to forge alone on the main chain for several hours?  Not cool if true.

xD So great! Yeah Heat is not very cool, glad you recognized that! Those people that are privileged are the ones on the slack. They are making decissions in private and we are the idiots that have to follow them... And if you don't agree with them on the slack then they simply kick you out. Privileged miners, CCEX funds are kept by Heat team, which fork we have to follow gets also decided on the slack. This HEAT coin is the biggest ripoff I have ever seen. I already stopped forging a long time ago.FUCK HEAT!

Just because I'm pissed off about this does not mean I agree with you on anything.

But there are much better ways to handle this kind of 'early-access' testing.  It's not rocket science.  Hell, it's only blockchain science.

Here's what you do:
* Fork the main chain to a testnet
* Invite your privileged few to help you test it on the testnet.
* When testing is complete, discard the testnet chain!

IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT!  This 'privilege' bullshit is fucked up.  Don't do it again.
sr. member
Activity: 390
Merit: 250
into the clusterfuck
Heatledger 0.9.4

This is a mandatory update, all nodes on the network need to run this version
or higher.

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https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heatledger/releases/tag/v0.9.4

Important:
Don't just run heatledger(.bat) inside \bin directly.
You have to be in the root directory (where bin, conf, lib, scripts is).
From there, run bin\heatledger(.bat).

On Windows you would do (replace with your paths):
Code:
C:\Users\Administrator>cd C:\APPS\Misc\Heat
[Enter]
C:\APPS\Misc\Heat>bin\heatledger.bat
[Enter]
(Or create a shortcut to the .bat file, edit its properties and set "Start in:" to C:\APPS\Misc\Heat (remove the \bin))
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
What if he's invited to join the new fork?

Then that's favoritism bullshit that I will not stand for.
I really need to know.  Were there a privileged few who got early access to forge alone on the main chain for several hours?  Not cool if true.

xD So great! Yeah Heat is not very cool, glad you recognized that! Those people that are privileged are the ones on the slack. They are making decissions in private and we are the idiots that have to follow them... And if you don't agree with them on the slack then they simply kick you out. Privileged miners, CCEX funds are kept by Heat team, which fork we have to follow gets also decided on the slack. This HEAT coin is the biggest ripoff I have ever seen. I already stopped forging a long time ago.FUCK HEAT!
member
Activity: 94
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I really need to know.  Were there a privileged few who got early access to forge alone on the main chain for several hours?  Not cool if true.
sr. member
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HEAT Ledger
Heatledger 0.9.4

This is a mandatory update, all nodes on the network need to run this version
or higher.

* Fixes have been applied that led to forks because of nodes not agreeing on
  what height a public key for an account was set.
* We've also disabled cancelling of orders that have not yet been confirmed
  in a block. This functionality will come back but needs more work.
* Public keys now have their own storage file which saves quite a lot of
  space since they dont need to be included in each account balance update
  (which caused one entry to be written to the account data version tracker
   file). Eventually we'll be able to get the accounts and account version
  tracker files to be much smaller (their size is so large because of pre-
  occupied space to hold at a minimum 250,000 accounts and all their
  versions over some 1400+ blocks, we expect to reduce the size of that by
  approximately 80%).
* This release enables creating any kind of market as long as you own the
  asset for that market.
* This release also enables the use of account email id's which you can
  register free of charge for new accounts created through either the web
  wallet or one of the downloadable desktop versions.
* We've update the list of standard wellknown peers to almost 68 nodes now
  through the help of http://heatbrowser.com/report.html which is maintained
  by one of our community members (there is a donate address on that page!)     
Finally its advised to download the blockchain fully from the network.

https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heatledger/releases/tag/v0.9.4
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What if he's invited to join the new fork?

Then that's favoritism bullshit that I will not stand for.
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