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Topic: [ANN] HEAT: 3.0 crypto*multisig fiat*a2a hft*1000tps*DSA*PoS+PoP*e2ee chat* - page 187. (Read 418460 times)

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shoutofgaia
Here is something I just found in the whitepaper:

"HEAT as a cryptocurrency employs radically new approaches to the way  cryptocurrencies are built, the most notable of these being complete removal of the embedded database" (yes it is in bold in the whitepaper)

And then later in the same whitepaper:
"The replication layer is an event based optional and configurable event sink mechanism where you run HEAT together with a MySQL [or another brand of] database server. This server can be either on the same machine or somewhere else on the local network."

This is all so great. They have made so many contrary statements that they can basically say anything and find a reference to that somewhere.

These statements are not at all contradictory.  You understand some words, but you lack comprehension. 

What is described here is two separate pieces:
1) The P2P server, which remains barebones and optimized for the singular task of running the blockchain protocol.  This includes memory-mapped data to allow very quick and lightweight access.

2) An optional replication layer.  This layer will allow service providers to offer scaled database solutions to serve as many lightweight clients as their infrastructure allows.

Why cram all of this into a single piece of software?  This is a smart approach.

Hooah!

+1000
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Here is something I just found in the whitepaper:

"HEAT as a cryptocurrency employs radically new approaches to the way  cryptocurrencies are built, the most notable of these being complete removal of the embedded database" (yes it is in bold in the whitepaper)

And then later in the same whitepaper:
"The replication layer is an event based optional and configurable event sink mechanism where you run HEAT together with a MySQL [or another brand of] database server. This server can be either on the same machine or somewhere else on the local network."

This is all so great. They have made so many contrary statements that they can basically say anything and find a reference to that somewhere.

These statements are not at all contradictory.  You understand some words, but you lack comprehension. 

What is described here is two separate pieces:
1) The P2P server, which remains barebones and optimized for the singular task of running the blockchain protocol.  This includes memory-mapped data to allow very quick and lightweight access.

2) An optional replication layer.  This layer will allow service providers to offer scaled database solutions to serve as many lightweight clients as their infrastructure allows.

Why cram all of this into a single piece of software?  This is a smart approach.
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incoherent ramblings

Haha, it all makes sense to me now.  You get off on this.

You will find more pleasure from a woman.  But you might want to clean up all that spooge first!  (Maybe ur mom can help).
Yeah I totally get off by seeing my money getting flushed down the toilet as fast as possible. The heat guys are experts at that, no woman could ever spent my money on nothing as fast as the heat guys do. Rock on heat team, Stewie needs to be pleasured! Giggedy! xD
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incoherent ramblings

Haha, it all makes sense to me now.  You get off on this.

You will find more pleasure from a woman.  But you might want to clean up all that spooge first!  (Maybe ur mom can help).
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even in the worst case scenario how many coins have held high market caps or pumped over the years with 0 features other than basic blockchain function? the altcoin market is all about speculation and hype. augur, iconomi, waves, golem, digixdao, lisk all hold high market caps for months based on speculation, promise of upcoming features, and money collected for development. get out there and start hyping/pumping. blockchain 3.0 unlimited scalability to the motherfucking moon

1) As an investor I very much do care if the team of the project delivers what they where talking about prior to the ICO, and if the coin will hold any value based on actual usage as opposed to hype. Actually many investors (including myself) invested because of this pretense of features that will be ready and released on mainnet (!!)
2) Regarding hype, do you really think the community will be blindlessly backing this for indefinite? Only real progress and proof that agreements are respected will enable such behavior. Also the fact that the team is so small is not to the advantage of the project.
3) If the HEAT team do not deliver what they clearly stated in the past, and considering the current sentiment around the project, it is less likely that we will see mad hype and interest surrounding this that could cause massive increase in value. Rather it is likely that this will evaporate to oblivion pretty quickly if things continue on current path.
4) Any person with a shred of decency would feel pretty bad inflating and hyping a coin that has nothing behind it but lies and dishonest presentation. I must state again, I really really hope that it turns out that this project is not a dishonest endeavor and that real dev work has been made to produce something of substance, but so far all indications are not very convincing of this and we will probably find out the truth pretty soon.

+1

If they don't deliver until Thursday this project is as dead as the squirrel on Donald Trump's head! No exchange will ever add this coin! Nobody wants to be associated with this project. All investors should be refunded immediately then.

To some people heat investors must look like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrewRRy5sP4
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even in the worst case scenario how many coins have held high market caps or pumped over the years with 0 features other than basic blockchain function? the altcoin market is all about speculation and hype. augur, iconomi, waves, golem, digixdao, lisk all hold high market caps for months based on speculation, promise of upcoming features, and money collected for development. get out there and start hyping/pumping. blockchain 3.0 unlimited scalability to the motherfucking moon

1) As an investor I very much do care if the team of the project delivers what they where talking about prior to the ICO, and if the coin will hold any value based on actual usage as opposed to hype. Actually many investors (including myself) invested because of this pretense of features that will be ready and released on mainnet (!!)
2) Regarding hype, do you really think the community will be blindlessly backing this for indefinite? Only real progress and proof that agreements are respected will enable such behavior. Also the fact that the team is so small is not to the advantage of the project.
3) If the HEAT team do not deliver what they clearly stated in the past, and considering the current sentiment around the project, it is less likely that we will see mad hype and interest surrounding this that could cause massive increase in value. Rather it is likely that this will evaporate to oblivion pretty quickly if things continue on current path.
4) Any person with a shred of decency would feel pretty bad inflating and hyping a coin that has nothing behind it but lies and dishonest presentation. I must state again, I really really hope that it turns out that this project is not a dishonest endeavor and that real dev work has been made to produce something of substance, but so far all indications are not very convincing of this and we will probably find out the truth pretty soon.
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even in the worst case scenario how many coins have held high market caps or pumped over the years with 0 features other than basic blockchain function? the altcoin market is all about speculation and hype. augur, iconomi, waves, golem, digixdao, lisk all hold high market caps for months based on speculation, promise of upcoming features, and money collected for development. get out there and start hyping/pumping. blockchain 3.0 unlimited scalability to the motherfucking moon
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wow stewieG u amaze me... so much energy wasted.. so your get rich fast scheme is "invest in somenthing u know nothing about, and then mock the product and developers". wow, such a good plan.

funny that it might work in this case, cos HEAT is really something different Smiley

Invest in somethin i know nothing about eh? What makes you say that? And yeah I mock the product, it has not been delivered and if delivered is not half the product that was promised. Yeah I mock the developers, they have lied to us multiple times. Yes intentionally lied!

lying should not be allowed anyhow if anyone will be fake will be responsible for his bad reputation.
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Software schedules, expectations and feature readiness levels are always estimates that change until delivered. Expectations aren't promises. Estimates are in best case scenario spot on, usually they're more or less flexible - a fact I've personally hated too but have come to understand and accept when being forced to experience it first hand as the responsible party, yet outside immediate personal control.

thanks for doing that. work is not always easy.
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HEAT client will be open source at launch. HEAT server is MIT licensed and will be open sourced soon after launch if not at launch. It's not decided at this point due to conflicts of interest involved. JV partners and potential investors prefer closed source for some time to get ahead of competitors cloning our proprietary source based on 3 years of work. What we didn't account for when planning the otherwise beneficial closed source period, is that some exchanges understandably request open source. We still have to make sure whether that's publicly, and strictly at launch or if it can be 1-3 months afterwards.

As stated previously, we had to put quite a bit of effort to roll back our FIMK-related processes to base HEAT on the older version of NXT before it was GNU licensed. This has an important reason - Heat Ledger Ltd builds corporate solutions based on the HEAT technology that's MIT licensed (can be closed source). It's natural for corporate customers to request the exact software they use is NOT open source. In fact it's very difficult to obtain customers if the software terms state that the whole piece you provide them has to be published open source.

Our escrow partner C-CEX is being pressured by some ICO participants to cancel the ICO and buy the HEAT tokens back. We've agreed to provide the wallet and HEAT tokens within 4 days from now or the ICO funds on C-CEX would be used to buy back the HEAT pre-sale tokens. They also requested we need to adjust the HEAT API to contain full NXT-compatible RPC for the part that exchangers use. That's no problem and is actually useful to readily offer NXT-compatible procedures for easier barrier of entry for 3rd party integration.



Thanks for the update .
So now that the project seems to begin ( i HOPE you will deliver before the deadline ) can you make an updated roadmap ? You can understand that all this mess was created by your irresponsibility regarding informing about project status , so to avoid a new wave of dissatisfied investors you and DeKlerk should discuss like responsible adults and come up to a new roadmap with "strict" timeframes .
I can understand that this is not the best time to do it as you have to deliver mainnet , but it should be your first priority after that . And by the delay you had with wallet i believe that YOU MUST HIRE PEOPLE . The funds this project has raise are more than enough , don't try to be cheap .
XEL is almost 1 year project , it doesn't even have mainnet yet and no one is complaining because Evil-Knievel keeps the investors informed about the status of project with videos , commits etc . It is a groundbreaking project like HEAT , BUT the big difference is that ALL the XEL community supports EK because of his attitude .



+1

Completely. Elastic would definitely be one of the best projects of 2017. We have an amazing community there! I hope things turn around for HEAT and we get to see an Awesome launch for HEAT too.

2017 is going to be awesome! Cheesy
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wow stewieG u amaze me... so much energy wasted.. so your get rich fast scheme is "invest in somenthing u know nothing about, and then mock the product and developers". wow, such a good plan.

funny that it might work in this case, cos HEAT is really something different Smiley

Invest in somethin i know nothing about eh? What makes you say that? And yeah I mock the product, it has not been delivered and if delivered is not half the product that was promised. Yeah I mock the developers, they have lied to us multiple times. Yes intentionally lied!

well at least your pointless posts make this thread longer, and i believe there was one major exchange that had some odd requirements like how long the bitcointalk thread is.... peace Smiley
What? Do YOU have any point or are you just posting bullshit and making this thread longer yourself?Huh

yup yup yuppers. cheers
Too many trolls in here...  Undecided  Roll Eyes

Edit: Note to myself:  stop responding to every troll

WAIT!!! I am sure you can help me. When I want entertainment do I go to https://twitter.com/POTUS or still https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump Huh I am confused  Huh
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wow stewieG u amaze me... so much energy wasted.. so your get rich fast scheme is "invest in somenthing u know nothing about, and then mock the product and developers". wow, such a good plan.

funny that it might work in this case, cos HEAT is really something different Smiley

Invest in somethin i know nothing about eh? What makes you say that? And yeah I mock the product, it has not been delivered and if delivered is not half the product that was promised. Yeah I mock the developers, they have lied to us multiple times. Yes intentionally lied!

well at least your pointless posts make this thread longer, and i believe there was one major exchange that had some odd requirements like how long the bitcointalk thread is.... peace Smiley
What? Do YOU have any point or are you just posting bullshit and making this thread longer yourself?Huh

yup yup yuppers. cheers
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wow stewieG u amaze me... so much energy wasted.. so your get rich fast scheme is "invest in somenthing u know nothing about, and then mock the product and developers". wow, such a good plan.

funny that it might work in this case, cos HEAT is really something different Smiley

Invest in somethin i know nothing about eh? What makes you say that? And yeah I mock the product, it has not been delivered and if delivered is not half the product that was promised. Yeah I mock the developers, they have lied to us multiple times. Yes intentionally lied!

well at least your pointless posts make this thread longer, and i believe there was one major exchange that had some odd requirements like how long the bitcointalk thread is.... peace Smiley
What? Do YOU have any point or are you just posting bullshit and making this thread longer yourself?Huh
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wow stewieG u amaze me... so much energy wasted.. so your get rich fast scheme is "invest in somenthing u know nothing about, and then mock the product and developers". wow, such a good plan.

funny that it might work in this case, cos HEAT is really something different Smiley

Invest in somethin i know nothing about eh? What makes you say that? And yeah I mock the product, it has not been delivered and if delivered is not half the product that was promised. Yeah I mock the developers, they have lied to us multiple times. Yes intentionally lied!

well at least your pointless posts make this thread longer, and i believe there was one major exchange that had some odd requirements like how long the bitcointalk thread is.... peace Smiley
hero member
Activity: 532
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wow stewieG u amaze me... so much energy wasted.. so your get rich fast scheme is "invest in somenthing u know nothing about, and then mock the product and developers". wow, such a good plan.

funny that it might work in this case, cos HEAT is really something different Smiley

Invest in somethin i know nothing about eh? What makes you say that? And yeah I mock the product, it has not been delivered and if delivered is not half the product that was promised. Yeah I mock the developers, they have lied to us multiple times. Yes intentionally lied!
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wow stewieG u amaze me... so much energy wasted.. so your get rich fast scheme is "invest in somenthing u know nothing about, and then mock the product and developers". wow, such a good plan.

funny that it might work in this case, cos HEAT is really something different Smiley
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I will be extremely surprised if they actually deliver in 4 days time.
I have zero faith what so ever.
I think they want to keep the funds no matter what. They will probably release an absolute shity product. Nothing that was promised will be in there but they will claim to have delivered a product. I hope CCex will not slip that through and refund everybody as if nothing was delivered.
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I can hardly believe the pissing and moaning I have to wade through when keeping up with this thread.

If you have any HEAT pre-tokens on CCex or Alcurex please let me know so I can set a bid for you to dump into.

FYI you can just set that bid and if people sell they will sell into you.

Very hard to keep up with this thread, and it's your fault-- it's primarily your pissing and moaning I'm wading through, I see now.

Clearly my statement went over your head. Of course I know I can set a bid and see if someone hits it. That is not what I am interested in doing, and it is not what I proposed to do. I asked for people to let me know they were willing to sell, beforehand. I'm not interested to leave bitcoin at these two high counterparty-risk exchanges waiting for dumps. I want to gauge seller interest within this thread that you've barfed FUD and self-entitled refund seeking all over.

Nobody responded that they wanted to sell, so consider that interest gauged.

Maybe it also means the better play is to be patient and wait for the software release, and if it never happens, accept the outcome (whether refund or loss), and move on quickly and easily because you didn't risk beyond your tolerance and get REKT by this one speculative action with HEAT. Maybe that's what most of the people monitoring this thread are doing-- in fact, to make that monitoring easier, I'll have to put you on mute so I can parse the thread more quickly.

Thanks for playing.
Chillout dickward, I hope you enjoyed my pissing and moaning xD
And no I will not accept to just lose my funds. These scumbags have around 600k$ left.(Nobody knows where they have already spent 200k and they don't tell us) When they will not release a coin or the coin is complete shit I want my money back. Until now it looks like we get NXT and nothing more. Nothing that was promised seems to be ready so far. You think I will just let them run away with my money? If everybody would think like you this would be scammers heaven.
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I will be extremely surprised if they actually deliver in 4 days time.
I have zero faith what so ever.
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The mentioned wallet at https://lompsa.com is our old wallet software btw, for HEAT we have build a completely new client from scratch.
It uses the latest client side techniques (Angular 2, TypeScript and Google Material).

Another gem I just found. I can rember that it took quite some time to even get the first version of the wallet out, without token claim. In the quote he says they have already built it. You can't make this up...


Dude in retrospective everything they wrote looks like a complete joke! EVERYTHING is complete marketing bullshit! Just compare compare the heat whitepaper with the ethereum whitepaper. Ethereum explains technical stuff, the heat whitepaper is just a seemingly endless stream of buzzword like blockchain 3.0, A2A, scalability, cryptocurrency. It is so very bad. Not one technical thing is really described there. It is terrible. It is solely made to attract total retards that fall for any bullshit you tell them. The only reason why I got onboard was because they promised to solve the scalability issue and thought well sounds cool I wonder how they will do it. But then this terrible terrible interview was released. Utter nonsense over and over. But whatever...

Here is something I just found in the whitepaper:

"HEAT as a cryptocurrency employs radically new approaches to the way  cryptocurrencies are built, the most notable of these being complete removal of the embedded database" (yes it is in bold in the whitepaper)

And then later in the same whitepaper:
"The replication layer is an event based optional and configurable event sink mechanism where you run HEAT together with a MySQL [or another brand of] database server. This server can be either on the same machine or somewhere else on the local network."

This is all so great. They have made so many contrary statements that they can basically say anything and find a reference to that somewhere.

And what are those businesses they always talk about? Maybe you guys want to tell us who you are talking to? I know asking you guys anything is pointless.
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