Topic: [ANN] HORIZON (HZ) New ANN thread (Read 2271 times)

Nah, he is more into the big business and such than grass roots, free open source and such.


-MarkM-

Wow all that sounds like something Elon Musk would want to invent but you sound more intelligent than Elon Musk. Unless you are Elon of course.

I think that would be called fraud , deception , theft ,fraud by wire and some other charges might be added so the developers or powers that be behind it might end up like SBF doing a lot of jailtime.

I know this is HZ thread but I had NXT coins but mynxtwallet does not work anymore. Does anyone have an idea how to recover it? TIA

Your node still is not shown in other nodes' list of connections.

Likely you need to run some kind of dynamic DNS to provide your node with a name that is updated as your ISP changes your IP address from time to time.


-MarkM-

Just to know, that I had a Debian on my stolen notebook. The network worked WELL with iphone 11 over USB cable. I started it, I plugged in my (stolen) iphone 11, and everything was well, worked top. Just now with Windows 10 I get hourly issues, because the connection between iphone and my laptop....... It is light to detect, but. But it isn't a server, sure. What I neeeeed, what should I ask from a such Windows system, but really? A client. Sure. I know. The Debian IS A server system. Okay. I let this Windows 10 run on this notebook. ((I thinking about to install Windows 11, but THE INSTALLATION NEEEEEDS a well and stable internet access for a (some) whole day(s), maybe ONLY 18 hours, ...... I know........... I thinking about to install Java 8 SDK on this Windows, ... Or to install Debian, but THIS Windows a well piece, sure, me like, sure.......)) BUT I NEEEED Horizon Network, Galactic Milieu, ... sure!!!

Just a remark here: The task at Coinmarketcap is today also an opportunity - for users of Horizon Network, sure. The link above in life, as it was in life earlier also...

It is already good. The restart worked well. Many THANKs! Happy Holydays!

Weird. I restarted it. The pool is two tasks only one typically dies like that.

I suspect the one that died was the web-page not the actual pool since blocks had continued going along fine and leases to the pool were still happening and so on.

I never even thought to look at that page's timestamp of latest blocks because in the actual nodes blocks were still working fine and still forged by the pool.

I am not seeing any new nodes though so whatever yours is named it doesn't seem to be showing up to the others.


-MarkM-

I think, the http://lfm.knotwork.com:8810/ page not working well since 17th November this year...
I started to support forging with some of my HZ-s, the network running well, I see peers, the leasing was successful, but the page above not detecting anything from actual forging events......

It is great that you are creating assets.

The game uses existing free open-source games as components, weaving them together via the cryptocurrencies and crypto-assets.

The only component with much of a hardware requirement really is if and when we actually use OpenSimulator or who knows by then something else that provides the similar functionality of providing graphical 3-D, eventually hopefully immersive 3D like goggles and so on for full virtual reality.

That whole virtual reality part though is still well into the future, there is still so much to build first, from text mode using CoffeeMUD software through 2-D tile-based using Crossfire-RPG, FreeCiv and Battle for Wesnoth; so far we do not even have for each type of FreeCiv "unit" a corresponding faction in Battle for Wesnoth to use to be able to represent every type of FreeCiv unit on a smaller scale broken down into all the various types of squads or troops each type of FreeCiv unit could or would consist of when zoomed in on.

Tools to build along the way would include things like a Crossfire-RPG map generator that takes a FreeCiv map as input and generates a corresponding Crossfire-RPG set of maps.

Once we have the Crossfire-RPG set of maps next would be an OpenSimulator or some such similar system "region" generator to pump out 3-D versions of the Crossfire-RPG maps.

The idea is that representing things should be a client-side task, each user ultimately able to choose whether they want to just see text, or 2-D graphics, or 3-D, eventually basically a "MUD client" that ideally would be able to take a novel or the output of a text-mode MUD game and render it in real time graphically, even full immersive graphics. An early simulation of a holodeck.

The way A.I. is progressing it certainly should be able to generate amazing graphics given MUD text-mode game output as "prompts", the next step would be to do that generating fast enough to not just generate amazing still photographic quality images but actual live video representation.

But do that all at the client end, so the server can handle massive numbers of simultaneous users because the server only needs to deal with text, which is relatively low bandwidth, and not need to run non player characters either since non player characters would ultimately be indistinguishable to the server from any other characters, basically they would run on clients just like players do using scripting languages or whatever that players could equally well choose to deploy themselves too so there would be no worry about trying to ban bots since humans are anyway themselves just another species of bots, happening to be organically implemented bots.

That last part, humans eventually being indistinguishable from bots, will in turn be a useful tool toward privacy and/or anonymity by allowing massive multiplication of the anonymity-sets within which anyone seeking to penetrate anonymity would need to search and correlate to "dox" anonymous entities.


-MarkM-

You are able to buy HZ on the Stellar Network against ZSOZSO from now an. Please check the pictures below... The ZSOZSO asset on the Stellar Network:

https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/ZSOZSO-GDZKLEYJ54QUIEYE4DUUOCIJDUS7R5MDW5MCAB3XTUGPJ3C7SSZJRQUC

info about ZSOZSO: (not more on zsozso.info... we working on this issue.) https://bsky.app/profile/zsozsoonstellar.bsky.social and the same account on X (former twitter) On both soc. media You are able to reach me also as @ifinta66 ...

Okay. It is an opinion, sure. I wait more opinions about the RFC above.

If exists a wish/bug list for HZ source, I would like to get it.

I work on my node today... maybe I install the game also. What HW requirements need that game? How can I define an asset in it?

One year is far too fast a timeout.

I think DMDv4 is proposing accounts idle for ten full years start to evapourate over time maybe or something like that, but any such ideas rebel against the immutability of blockchain.

Bitcoin seems to work fine with uknown numbers of "lost coins" out there.

Not to mention that any such rule could force e.g. Satoshi to put life on the line to avoid having coins in effect stolen, if Satoshi isn't already dead.

No way of knowing how many people in how many different coins and blockchains would have their life at risk were they to go ahead and move any of their coins or tokens due to some such stupid and possibly outright dangerous or deadly rule, especially one introduced after the fact rather than in the original pre-genesis "whitepaper" or whatever.

Maybe it could even be argued that even suggesting such a retrofitted rule ought to be taken as possibly indicating being out to "get" someone who is at the moment protected by their coins not having moved lately or ever...

If you are up for coding though there are glitches in HORIZON that could do with fixing, such as its so called currencies subsystem is broken enough we ended up having to categorise everything as assets.


-MarkM-

I test this Debian on the Windows. Me like it. It working well up to now. It give me for servers a well secure place.
Yes, Java is well compatible everywhere with Java, with some differences as usual
YES, HORIZON is top, of course. HORIZON is the only NXT clone, which reached this age! Or?
And HORIZON has a well distribution, sure. The community should be well informed only.

It is a question, how we are able to burn not more used HZ and acc's later.......... It would be a nice step for the market.
We should make then a new version of HZ, but we have the sources. Not an impossible mission, sure.

RFC-HZ-NEW-0001: If an account don't move any asset in the next year (2025), it will be removed forever in the next version of HZ.

A request for comment, please!

It is not technically necessary to run a Linux subsystem under Windows to run it on Windows is it?

Shouldn't the necessary version of java be directly available for Windows?

Seems like once upon a time the big point of java had been it runs everywhere so that stuff written for it can run everywhere?

Thanks for doing all this though, HORIZON used to be a great place for shopping for bargains after each re-calculation of the Latest Rates, which calculation by the way is running as I type, the mid-month calculation as it were...


-MarkM-

Okay. I check the thread of Your game also. I don't tried it yet. Interesting option.

Okay. It exists a web wallet at a node? Maybe it is enough for our business.
Just now not simple to download the whole chain. It means a lot time...

I note here, what I did... I use a Windows 10 system with Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL). I use Debian app on it. Bookworm. I installed Java jdk 8, because it a must for the old source of HZ. The source I get from my github repo, as usual. compile.sh and it compiled without issue.

Java 8 for Bookworm:

Please check also:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/749903/how-can-i-install-java-8-on-debian-12-bookworm

wget http://www.mirbsd.org/~tg/Debs/sources.txt/wtf-bookworm.sources
sudo mkdir -p /etc/apt/sources.list.d
sudo mv wtf-bookworm.sources /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
sudo apt update
sudo apt install openjdk-8-jdk

github repo:

git clone https://github.com/ifinta/hz-source

It can be started with run.sh, but not yet working, because I need to open ports from the Windows Subsystem for Linux to the world...

~~~~~~~~~~~ it was here a week pause, sure

I got some serious issues, but IT EXISTS a known bug in the networking of WSL... WSL don't let run init and it don't detects, that the Windows got an another networking environment, for example, the Windows system was in sleep state, and woke up It was before Windows 10 a known issue, and MAYBE Windows 11 solved it. MAYBE I can't test it just now...

It means, Windows should be switched off, and next day should be started. The WSL should be well closed and started also. Not for a well server, sure.

I don't want to install a Debian, I don't want a 1000 years old Java Dev Kit on the Windows, so I decided to restart my "server" every day I would like try WSL well, as I said earlier.

Some useful Windows commands:

netsh interface portproxy add v4tov4 listenport=7776 listenaddress=127.0.0.1 connectport=7776 connectaddress=172.25.23.6

The address of 172.25.23.6 on the side of Windows changing randomly, of course. WSL don't detect it, I hope, clear for everybody, why it isn't a good decision to use the system. But.

route print, ping, tracert, ...
wsl.exe -l -v

to see the Name, State, ... of the distro.

wsl.exe -t Debian

to make a restart of the WSL. It should be well stopped, of course, before you do it. If you exit the app, the process don't exiting. It remain in the life in the background. Nice. If you don't have the state of the system in "running", then it won't be restarted, of course. Nice.

netsh advfirewall firewall add rule name="" dir=in action=allow protocol=TCP localport=

It isn't tested well yet. Just to remember.

netsh firewall show state
wsl.exe hostname -I
netsh interface ipv4 show config

Some useful Debian command (bookworm):

ip address show, ping, traceroute, nc (netcat), ...

What is maybe useful, that the HOSTNAME of WSL system will be an subdomain of mshome.net ... Interesting thing, because the domain, the mshome.net is a well public ip address, and the .msome.net get a PRIVATE IP...

http://lfm.knotwork.com:7776/index.html#

You can use this link to sign into the Horizon Network. It isn't a node required then from your side, you can use the link with a browser, and it working well up to now...

I stop this task for today. I continue it later or after the Holydays, maybe at Newyear. Happy Holydays

~~~~~~~~~~~~~ just another pause ...

Awesome!

All you need do is fire up a HORIZON node, hz-v5.4 is what I am using it was the latest version I managed to find.

In its config file of course all the old default nodes are long gone, but I do not plug my nodes in in place of those I put mine in as well-known nodes. Either would work though.

Plug into it LFM.knotwork.com, Server1.Knotwork.net, UFBSH.no-ip.org, UFBAR.ddns.net and UFBTR.ddns.net

If you want to help prevent forking of the blockchain or just want to use a staking pool for staking, there is a staking (forging) pool running at http://lfm.knotwork.com:8810/ which pretty much all the players with enough HZ to bother staking/forging seem to be using. We have had problems a few years back with forking so that might be best idea for now, especially considering that the default distribution is set up to want three nodes already on line and in synch with one-another just to get started since by default it checks each block received against two nodes other than the node it received it from before accepting it.

You should be able to make buy offers with your existing bags of HZ, the game's assets on HORIZON are listed at https://MakeMoney.Knotwork.com/horizon/assets/

Note that we do not use the so called currencies, only the so called assets, since trying to create currencies after the first few we created it just kept insisting name already in use for any more we tried to create also not sure the math of trading them etc even works for those it did allow to exist. So we replaced any we had managed to create with assets.

As for the value of HZ, we had trading going pretty nicely assuming one HZ was worth about a penny or cent, whether U.S. or CAD or Australian or GBP or Euros, anything in that kind of ballpark, but some massive whale trashed the price of HZ on Stellar so insanely low that pretty much everyone deleted all their sell offers of everything in HORIZON until some day when a proper buy-side is built up on Stellar for HZ enough to give players some confidence again that there is any point trying to come up with sensible sell offers selling things for HZ.

The Stellar assets, including HZ, are listed at https://MakeMoney.Knotwork.com/stellar/

The tables and plots of asset values, dating back to 2012, are online at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html


-MarkM-


EDIT: If you yourself are a huge whale in HZ you might think about the idea of making HZ into a "treasury-based asset" in the game so as to make it have a calculated value within the game, since it might prove easier to bring its calculated value up to a useful level than to bring its spot market prices on Stellar up to a useful value. I already started discussing how to set up treasury based assets in one of the [Galactic Milieu] threads in the altcoin discussion section of these forums.

Nice to hear about You, Sir!
I am actually not in Hungary. I am in Miami. If we can meet, it would be nice, I should express. I am in Miami since ~six month. My server at this time in Hungary offline, but it is in a safe place. I have there some backups about old sources, what I successful grabbed from the github. Maybe there would be some information also about this explorer. Maybe. I can't travel back to Hungary, I requested here asylum. In the days I was able to login again in this account. I should express, I neeeeed some coins, and I have a lot HZ. It would be nice to speak about it ASAP. You have good chances to get some HZ, other HORIZON ASSETS of Yours, ... with a well price, sure.

Have a nice day, Sir! Your post made my day, I feel!
Sincerely,
ifinta

Afaik blockexplorer.horizen.global used to be one one of the most useful explorer during earlier days, there is one video in youtube which is 6 years old posted by user aqua Youtubelinks mighty helpful for you.