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Topic: [ANN] [HVC] Heavycoin - Ultra-secure, Decentralized Block Reward Voting, Fast - page 76. (Read 542277 times)

newbie
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vote 1024 on 2 new machines ! yes
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I'm all in for the community to vote low. I think pools can have a great impact on educating people not by telling them what to vote but by explaining the reasons why the think a lower vote would benefit the mining community. These kind of suggestions exist in all industries.
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Yes,but you'd expect the price to increase proportionally with the reduction in block rewards, However it would be nonsense to imagine an instantaneous 72x increase in price, Seems that it would be prudent as a miner and supporter of the coin to start sliding down your votes as the sustain phase approaches to create a smooth transition.

Exactly, we need/have to go from 582 to 8 HVC reward in approximately 90 days time with a proportional increase in value to offset the difficulty and still keep the coin slightly profitable to mine. It's possible to do but each and every day the votes stay high just makes it harder and harder to accomplish.  Right now the current vote is approximately the same as when it started or roughly in the middle.  If this doesn't change then we'll have the cliff on the 1st day of sustain.


I am a HVC supporter and investor but I absolutely agree with Carlos on this one. Having a huge reward cliff like that is really dangerous for the coin. There might be small chance that the coin will survive it but it would be much safer and healthier to start voting the rewards down gradually.
As most miners seem to be too stupid or greedy to realize this we would need some sort of community initiative to reward low votes. One example could be a pool that gives out extra rewards for blockfinders with a low vote. This could be subsidized by the community with donations for example.

I don't think pool or HVC developer should suggest miner to vote low, miners should make their own choice, though we really want to.

But it is our reponsibility to educate our miner how to make the best choice.

Anyway, we will consider your suggestion.

ZhPool


In the end it will still be everyones own choice and we cant force anyone on how to vote but educating the miners will benefit everyone in the end  Smiley I agree that it would be unethical for the developer to urge miners to vote low but pools and pool owners are also part of the community so I see nothing wrong there. And it's not like we are trying to do something bad here - lower supply will mean deflation which will benefits everyone.
Such a community up taking and rising prices will attract a lot more attention to the coin, reward the investors and encourage new ones and gives the miners a healthy coin to mine.


wallet need to be updated because of the openssl vulnerability




Keccak512 posted earlier that HVC is not directly influenced by this vulnerability so the update is not critical.


Edit: Great job Jakiman and Reorder  Grin
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Anyone got a version of BAMT that can mine this, or can any of the included Cgminer version in 1.6 work ?


At least I am
Are you not?
 Cool Cool
legendary
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wallet need to be updated because of the openssl vulnerability

legendary
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jakiman is back!
I don't think pool or HVC developer should suggest miner to vote low, miners should make their own choice, though we really want to.

But it is our reponsibility to educate our miner how to make the best choice.

Anyway, we will consider your suggestion.

ZhPool

I think your pool (& 1GH) can be used to educate people about it and encourage gradual lower votes at least.
1GH currently is pretty much telling everyone to use a vote of 512. I will ask reorder if he can change that.

Like a rally, maybe we should tell everyone to vote for 300! Then rally for vote of 200 after and so on.
As I said before, it's all about influence. Many miners have no idea what -v actually does. So it'll be good if we can all work to change that.
Less coins =! less profit. It it was equal, every other coin's block reward halving should mean they all die to unless price suddenly doubles.

Edit: I've requested reorder if he can change his miner string sample with a lower (e.g. 128) vote count. (or a and get miners to choose)
Edit2: reorder (hvc.1gh.com) advised that he may change the number to something lower or assist in educating the miners about that value!
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i dont conform i nullify your votes 1024 forever hahaha Grin
that is why democracy never works..i live in serbia ..we have now "democracu" but before we had it it was 100 times better...if you want to nou why democracy is bad just made a talk with awerage "voter" ..with 1024 you are just killing the coin and make it sht coin ..i set all my mashines to 1 .

i know its great !

Maybe democracy doesn't work, big deal, this is more about money than democracy. We, as an organized community, can control the mint rate and supply, all other coins have the supply rate and amount fixed by the developers.  You will notice he changed his vote to 1.


Thank you for your reminding me
You give us all a good tip
You are a good man
Good luck to you
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I'm getting a lag in the pc when I'm mining Heavycoin with my r9 280x. When I try to move the windows or minimize a program, it lags sometimes.

Only me??


Of course not
I will also lag
Of course, if the degree is not serious
I don't think this is a problem
sr. member
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legendary
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Reality is stranger than fiction
Guys I can't register on MintPal..been trying since days.
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With the current vote being 553 I don't think many miners have changed the vote from the default -v 512. We don't need the devs to change anything, just need to raise awareness, the vote gives us control of money supply and mint rate if we can organize ourselves.

 The coin won't be 90% mined at the end of the mint phase, We have a max potential coin supply of 128 million, it could be less than 50% mined at the end of the mint phase.



Voting can have a lot of deception in the inside of the ingredients

I would also like you

Wish us luck
newbie
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I'm getting a lag in the pc when I'm mining Heavycoin with my r9 280x. When I try to move the windows or minimize a program, it lags sometimes.

Only me??

I also encountered the same problem


I hope someone can answer


Intensity is too high. Set -I to 1 or 2, I get 18Mh/s with -I 2 instead of 20Mh/s with -I 6 but at least it doesn't lag Smiley (AMD R9 280X by the way)
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if below 3k satoshi i have buy 1M HVC support this coin

Hope that your dream can come true
Then the price directly to fly to the moon
member
Activity: 65
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I'm getting a lag in the pc when I'm mining Heavycoin with my r9 280x. When I try to move the windows or minimize a program, it lags sometimes.

Only me??

I also encountered the same problem


I hope someone can answer
member
Activity: 152
Merit: 10
Yes,but you'd expect the price to increase proportionally with the reduction in block rewards, However it would be nonsense to imagine an instantaneous 72x increase in price, Seems that it would be prudent as a miner and supporter of the coin to start sliding down your votes as the sustain phase approaches to create a smooth transition.

Exactly, we need/have to go from 582 to 8 HVC reward in approximately 90 days time with a proportional increase in value to offset the difficulty and still keep the coin slightly profitable to mine. It's possible to do but each and every day the votes stay high just makes it harder and harder to accomplish.  Right now the current vote is approximately the same as when it started or roughly in the middle.  If this doesn't change then we'll have the cliff on the 1st day of sustain.


I am a HVC supporter and investor but I absolutely agree with Carlos on this one. Having a huge reward cliff like that is really dangerous for the coin. There might be small chance that the coin will survive it but it would be much safer and healthier to start voting the rewards down gradually.
As most miners seem to be too stupid or greedy to realize this we would need some sort of community initiative to reward low votes. One example could be a pool that gives out extra rewards for blockfinders with a low vote. This could be subsidized by the community with donations for example.

I don't think pool or HVC developer should suggest miner to vote low, miners should make their own choice, though we really want to.

But it is our reponsibility to educate our miner how to make the best choice.

Anyway, we will consider your suggestion.

ZhPool
full member
Activity: 229
Merit: 100
Yes,but you'd expect the price to increase proportionally with the reduction in block rewards, However it would be nonsense to imagine an instantaneous 72x increase in price, Seems that it would be prudent as a miner and supporter of the coin to start sliding down your votes as the sustain phase approaches to create a smooth transition.

Exactly, we need/have to go from 582 to 8 HVC reward in approximately 90 days time with a proportional increase in value to offset the difficulty and still keep the coin slightly profitable to mine. It's possible to do but each and every day the votes stay high just makes it harder and harder to accomplish.  Right now the current vote is approximately the same as when it started or roughly in the middle.  If this doesn't change then we'll have the cliff on the 1st day of sustain.


I am a HVC supporter and investor but I absolutely agree with Carlos on this one. Having a huge reward cliff like that is really dangerous for the coin. There might be small chance that the coin will survive it but it would be much safer and healthier to start voting the rewards down gradually.
As most miners seem to be too stupid or greedy to realize this we would need some sort of community initiative to reward low votes. One example could be a pool that gives out extra rewards for blockfinders with a low vote. This could be subsidized by the community with donations for example.
member
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I am constantly refreshing this link http://heavychain.info/reward
Either the graph is wrong or I am missing something.
I can only see 3 kind of votes every time on that page, (0/1, 512 or 1024) I have never seen any 4th kind of vote there !!
Today each of my 3 rigs found 1 block each & I have set vote to 128 on all of them. I have never seen 128 pointing graph on that page.
Can somebody explain me what's going on ?

These 3 recent blocks all have vote set to 128:

23207
23249
23269

You can also use voting chart on http://heavycoin.github.io/voting-graph.html - it's refreshing itself automatically.

Oh ! I see now, Thanks for the link.

any news on this potential scrypt pool for heavycoin?
full member
Activity: 171
Merit: 100
I am constantly refreshing this link http://heavychain.info/reward
Either the graph is wrong or I am missing something.
I can only see 3 kind of votes every time on that page, (0/1, 512 or 1024) I have never seen any 4th kind of vote there !!
Today each of my 3 rigs found 1 block each & I have set vote to 128 on all of them. I have never seen 128 pointing graph on that page.
Can somebody explain me what's going on ?

These 3 recent blocks all have vote set to 128:

23207
23249
23269

You can also use voting chart on http://heavycoin.github.io/voting-graph.html - it's refreshing itself automatically.

Oh ! I see now, Thanks for the link.
newbie
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if below 3k satoshi i have buy 1M HVC support this coin
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