Does anyone remember the IPO price of HVC (1 HVC = how many BTC)?
I believe it was 0.00005.
thank you
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April 08, 2014, 02:14:01 AM
I believe it was 0.00005.
thank you
April 08, 2014, 02:12:42 AM
Does anyone remember the IPO price of HVC (1 HVC = how many BTC)?
I believe it was 0.00005.
April 08, 2014, 02:05:56 AM
Does anyone remember the IPO price of HVC (1 HVC = how many BTC)?
April 08, 2014, 01:37:15 AM
What he said... but in English lol.
whilst I agree the logic to this is sound, I feel a multipool would kickstart demand, the increased buy support would increase the value in the coin and in turn increase peoples interest. The detraction from the hashrate would be made up for once people become more interested and start mining HVC. The difficulty would drop accordingly as well leaving people more likely to begin mining.
but now miner like vote 1024 but fast reward low price easy died coin.
Alright, for all the folks hoping for an HVC Multipool, it can't happen, and here's why:
1. Blackcoin is PoS not PoW. This means they don't need miners to be constantly mining the coin in order to sustain the blockchain, all that is handled by open wallets. Whether or not that is good is another conversation for another time, but that's how it is.
2. The multipool would take away hashrate from the HVC blockchain, making HVC more vulnerable and less secure.
3. If a multipool were to solve for 2, it would have to allocate massive hash power to the HVC blockchain, negating the upsides.
Here's the danger with HVC if I understand correctly: If people don't tone down their votes now, the coin will be fully minted REALLY REALLY FAST. This is bad because it centralizes the coin to only early adopters, weakening the coin long term (fewer investors because the community is too small). We need to stretch the mint phase as long as possible for the SURVIVAL of the coin. At this rate, it will already be minted by the time the ASICS hit, and GPU miners won't come because ROI will be too low. We need to, if possible, stretch the mint for AT LEAST a year. The coin needs time to grow.
If people don't lower their votes, the network will be dead in 6 months or less, the moment we hit the sustain phase. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF HVC VOTE 1
I Agree1. Blackcoin is PoS not PoW. This means they don't need miners to be constantly mining the coin in order to sustain the blockchain, all that is handled by open wallets. Whether or not that is good is another conversation for another time, but that's how it is.
2. The multipool would take away hashrate from the HVC blockchain, making HVC more vulnerable and less secure.
3. If a multipool were to solve for 2, it would have to allocate massive hash power to the HVC blockchain, negating the upsides.
Here's the danger with HVC if I understand correctly: If people don't tone down their votes now, the coin will be fully minted REALLY REALLY FAST. This is bad because it centralizes the coin to only early adopters, weakening the coin long term (fewer investors because the community is too small). We need to stretch the mint phase as long as possible for the SURVIVAL of the coin. At this rate, it will already be minted by the time the ASICS hit, and GPU miners won't come because ROI will be too low. We need to, if possible, stretch the mint for AT LEAST a year. The coin needs time to grow.
If people don't lower their votes, the network will be dead in 6 months or less, the moment we hit the sustain phase. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF HVC VOTE 1
whilst I agree the logic to this is sound, I feel a multipool would kickstart demand, the increased buy support would increase the value in the coin and in turn increase peoples interest. The detraction from the hashrate would be made up for once people become more interested and start mining HVC. The difficulty would drop accordingly as well leaving people more likely to begin mining.
April 08, 2014, 01:24:36 AM
Alright, for all the folks hoping for an HVC Multipool, it can't happen, and here's why:
1. Blackcoin is PoS not PoW. This means they don't need miners to be constantly mining the coin in order to sustain the blockchain, all that is handled by open wallets. Whether or not that is good is another conversation for another time, but that's how it is.
2. The multipool would take away hashrate from the HVC blockchain, making HVC more vulnerable and less secure.
3. If a multipool were to solve for 2, it would have to allocate massive hash power to the HVC blockchain, negating the upsides.
Here's the danger with HVC if I understand correctly: If people don't tone down their votes now, the coin will be fully minted REALLY REALLY FAST. This is bad because it centralizes the coin to only early adopters, weakening the coin long term (fewer investors because the community is too small). We need to stretch the mint phase as long as possible for the SURVIVAL of the coin. At this rate, it will already be minted by the time the ASICS hit, and GPU miners won't come because ROI will be too low. We need to, if possible, stretch the mint for AT LEAST a year. The coin needs time to grow.
If people don't lower their votes, the network will be dead in 6 months or less, the moment we hit the sustain phase. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF HVC VOTE 1
I Agree1. Blackcoin is PoS not PoW. This means they don't need miners to be constantly mining the coin in order to sustain the blockchain, all that is handled by open wallets. Whether or not that is good is another conversation for another time, but that's how it is.
2. The multipool would take away hashrate from the HVC blockchain, making HVC more vulnerable and less secure.
3. If a multipool were to solve for 2, it would have to allocate massive hash power to the HVC blockchain, negating the upsides.
Here's the danger with HVC if I understand correctly: If people don't tone down their votes now, the coin will be fully minted REALLY REALLY FAST. This is bad because it centralizes the coin to only early adopters, weakening the coin long term (fewer investors because the community is too small). We need to stretch the mint phase as long as possible for the SURVIVAL of the coin. At this rate, it will already be minted by the time the ASICS hit, and GPU miners won't come because ROI will be too low. We need to, if possible, stretch the mint for AT LEAST a year. The coin needs time to grow.
If people don't lower their votes, the network will be dead in 6 months or less, the moment we hit the sustain phase. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF HVC VOTE 1
whilst I agree the logic to this is sound, I feel a multipool would kickstart demand, the increased buy support would increase the value in the coin and in turn increase peoples interest. The detraction from the hashrate would be made up for once people become more interested and start mining HVC. The difficulty would drop accordingly as well leaving people more likely to begin mining.
The problem with the hashrate drop would be that it opens the coin to a 51% attack. Also, creating a multipool is no small task... It took the BC devs weeks to get it fully up and running. For the sustain phase of HVC, maybe. But for the forseeable future a multipool is just not feasible.
April 08, 2014, 01:05:32 AM
Alright, for all the folks hoping for an HVC Multipool, it can't happen, and here's why:
1. Blackcoin is PoS not PoW. This means they don't need miners to be constantly mining the coin in order to sustain the blockchain, all that is handled by open wallets. Whether or not that is good is another conversation for another time, but that's how it is.
2. The multipool would take away hashrate from the HVC blockchain, making HVC more vulnerable and less secure.
3. If a multipool were to solve for 2, it would have to allocate massive hash power to the HVC blockchain, negating the upsides.
Here's the danger with HVC if I understand correctly: If people don't tone down their votes now, the coin will be fully minted REALLY REALLY FAST. This is bad because it centralizes the coin to only early adopters, weakening the coin long term (fewer investors because the community is too small). We need to stretch the mint phase as long as possible for the SURVIVAL of the coin. At this rate, it will already be minted by the time the ASICS hit, and GPU miners won't come because ROI will be too low. We need to, if possible, stretch the mint for AT LEAST a year. The coin needs time to grow.
If people don't lower their votes, the network will be dead in 6 months or less, the moment we hit the sustain phase. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF HVC VOTE 1
I Agree1. Blackcoin is PoS not PoW. This means they don't need miners to be constantly mining the coin in order to sustain the blockchain, all that is handled by open wallets. Whether or not that is good is another conversation for another time, but that's how it is.
2. The multipool would take away hashrate from the HVC blockchain, making HVC more vulnerable and less secure.
3. If a multipool were to solve for 2, it would have to allocate massive hash power to the HVC blockchain, negating the upsides.
Here's the danger with HVC if I understand correctly: If people don't tone down their votes now, the coin will be fully minted REALLY REALLY FAST. This is bad because it centralizes the coin to only early adopters, weakening the coin long term (fewer investors because the community is too small). We need to stretch the mint phase as long as possible for the SURVIVAL of the coin. At this rate, it will already be minted by the time the ASICS hit, and GPU miners won't come because ROI will be too low. We need to, if possible, stretch the mint for AT LEAST a year. The coin needs time to grow.
If people don't lower their votes, the network will be dead in 6 months or less, the moment we hit the sustain phase. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF HVC VOTE 1
whilst I agree the logic to this is sound, I feel a multipool would kickstart demand, the increased buy support would increase the value in the coin and in turn increase peoples interest. The detraction from the hashrate would be made up for once people become more interested and start mining HVC. The difficulty would drop accordingly as well leaving people more likely to begin mining.
April 08, 2014, 12:52:36 AM
Alright, for all the folks hoping for an HVC Multipool, it can't happen, and here's why:
1. Blackcoin is PoS not PoW. This means they don't need miners to be constantly mining the coin in order to sustain the blockchain, all that is handled by open wallets. Whether or not that is good is another conversation for another time, but that's how it is.
2. The multipool would take away hashrate from the HVC blockchain, making HVC more vulnerable and less secure.
3. If a multipool were to solve for 2, it would have to allocate massive hash power to the HVC blockchain, negating the upsides.
Here's the danger with HVC if I understand correctly: If people don't tone down their votes now, the coin will be fully minted REALLY REALLY FAST. This is bad because it centralizes the coin to only early adopters, weakening the coin long term (fewer investors because the community is too small). We need to stretch the mint phase as long as possible for the SURVIVAL of the coin. At this rate, it will already be minted by the time the ASICS hit, and GPU miners won't come because ROI will be too low. We need to, if possible, stretch the mint for AT LEAST a year. The coin needs time to grow.
If people don't lower their votes, the network will be dead in 6 months or less, the moment we hit the sustain phase. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF HVC VOTE 1
I Agree1. Blackcoin is PoS not PoW. This means they don't need miners to be constantly mining the coin in order to sustain the blockchain, all that is handled by open wallets. Whether or not that is good is another conversation for another time, but that's how it is.
2. The multipool would take away hashrate from the HVC blockchain, making HVC more vulnerable and less secure.
3. If a multipool were to solve for 2, it would have to allocate massive hash power to the HVC blockchain, negating the upsides.
Here's the danger with HVC if I understand correctly: If people don't tone down their votes now, the coin will be fully minted REALLY REALLY FAST. This is bad because it centralizes the coin to only early adopters, weakening the coin long term (fewer investors because the community is too small). We need to stretch the mint phase as long as possible for the SURVIVAL of the coin. At this rate, it will already be minted by the time the ASICS hit, and GPU miners won't come because ROI will be too low. We need to, if possible, stretch the mint for AT LEAST a year. The coin needs time to grow.
If people don't lower their votes, the network will be dead in 6 months or less, the moment we hit the sustain phase. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF HVC VOTE 1
whilst I agree the logic to this is sound, I feel a multipool would kickstart demand, the increased buy support would increase the value in the coin and in turn increase peoples interest. The detraction from the hashrate would be made up for once people become more interested and start mining HVC. The difficulty would drop accordingly as well leaving people more likely to begin mining.
April 08, 2014, 12:32:19 AM
Alright, for all the folks hoping for an HVC Multipool, it can't happen, and here's why:
1. Blackcoin is PoS not PoW. This means they don't need miners to be constantly mining the coin in order to sustain the blockchain, all that is handled by open wallets. Whether or not that is good is another conversation for another time, but that's how it is.
2. The multipool would take away hashrate from the HVC blockchain, making HVC more vulnerable and less secure.
3. If a multipool were to solve for 2, it would have to allocate massive hash power to the HVC blockchain, negating the upsides.
Here's the danger with HVC if I understand correctly: If people don't tone down their votes now, the coin will be fully minted REALLY REALLY FAST. This is bad because it centralizes the coin to only early adopters, weakening the coin long term (fewer investors because the community is too small). We need to stretch the mint phase as long as possible for the SURVIVAL of the coin. At this rate, it will already be minted by the time the ASICS hit, and GPU miners won't come because ROI will be too low. We need to, if possible, stretch the mint for AT LEAST a year. The coin needs time to grow.
If people don't lower their votes, the network will be dead in 6 months or less, the moment we hit the sustain phase. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF HVC VOTE 1
I Agree 1. Blackcoin is PoS not PoW. This means they don't need miners to be constantly mining the coin in order to sustain the blockchain, all that is handled by open wallets. Whether or not that is good is another conversation for another time, but that's how it is.
2. The multipool would take away hashrate from the HVC blockchain, making HVC more vulnerable and less secure.
3. If a multipool were to solve for 2, it would have to allocate massive hash power to the HVC blockchain, negating the upsides.
Here's the danger with HVC if I understand correctly: If people don't tone down their votes now, the coin will be fully minted REALLY REALLY FAST. This is bad because it centralizes the coin to only early adopters, weakening the coin long term (fewer investors because the community is too small). We need to stretch the mint phase as long as possible for the SURVIVAL of the coin. At this rate, it will already be minted by the time the ASICS hit, and GPU miners won't come because ROI will be too low. We need to, if possible, stretch the mint for AT LEAST a year. The coin needs time to grow.
If people don't lower their votes, the network will be dead in 6 months or less, the moment we hit the sustain phase. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF HVC VOTE 1
April 08, 2014, 12:23:57 AM
Alright, for all the folks hoping for an HVC Multipool, it can't happen, and here's why:
1. Blackcoin is PoS not PoW. This means they don't need miners to be constantly mining the coin in order to sustain the blockchain, all that is handled by open wallets. Whether or not that is good is another conversation for another time, but that's how it is.
2. The multipool would take away hashrate from the HVC blockchain, making HVC more vulnerable and less secure.
3. If a multipool were to solve for 2, it would have to allocate massive hash power to the HVC blockchain, negating the upsides.
Here's the danger with HVC if I understand correctly: If people don't tone down their votes now, the coin will be fully minted REALLY REALLY FAST. This is bad because it centralizes the coin to only early adopters, weakening the coin long term (fewer investors because the community is too small). We need to stretch the mint phase as long as possible for the SURVIVAL of the coin. At this rate, it will already be minted by the time the ASICS hit, and GPU miners won't come because ROI will be too low. We need to, if possible, stretch the mint for AT LEAST a year. The coin needs time to grow.
If people don't lower their votes, the network will be dead in 6 months or less, the moment we hit the sustain phase. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF HVC VOTE 1
1. Blackcoin is PoS not PoW. This means they don't need miners to be constantly mining the coin in order to sustain the blockchain, all that is handled by open wallets. Whether or not that is good is another conversation for another time, but that's how it is.
2. The multipool would take away hashrate from the HVC blockchain, making HVC more vulnerable and less secure.
3. If a multipool were to solve for 2, it would have to allocate massive hash power to the HVC blockchain, negating the upsides.
Here's the danger with HVC if I understand correctly: If people don't tone down their votes now, the coin will be fully minted REALLY REALLY FAST. This is bad because it centralizes the coin to only early adopters, weakening the coin long term (fewer investors because the community is too small). We need to stretch the mint phase as long as possible for the SURVIVAL of the coin. At this rate, it will already be minted by the time the ASICS hit, and GPU miners won't come because ROI will be too low. We need to, if possible, stretch the mint for AT LEAST a year. The coin needs time to grow.
If people don't lower their votes, the network will be dead in 6 months or less, the moment we hit the sustain phase. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF HVC VOTE 1
April 07, 2014, 10:48:56 PM
I don't think it's life support for a dying coin but it is in essence life support. Unless im misunderstanding the concept the part that gets me is that it centralizes the currency. Without that pool and the operators the coin likely dies. One select group controls the fate of the coin no matter how many followers there are. The coin relies on the group to profit from mining alts to boost there own coin value. It centralizes the risk/reward.
bc/nxt/dogeshit, kings of parasitic shitcoins. why would anyone use a shitcoin as a pair base instead of btc?
(lets see whats next on the agenda of pump and dump fraud scamcoins)
don't let the zealotry of bagholders fool you, they have no way out so their only option is to sucker in as many losers as possible to cut their losses.
to guys like this anything that is not BTC is a scam. stuck in the past praying another coin doesn't go main stream, because the reality is almost every other coins out there is faster and better than BTC. If BTC wasn't the very first crypto currency it would be dead.
oh please :rolleyes:
i'm just sick of hundreds of shitcoins bringing no significant advance in technology. and there are many ways to improve major design flaws even in bitcoin
(and lol at "faster=better", you have no clue man)
ignorance must be bliss ...
the whole world isn't trying to make things faster and better? i suppose your happy reading your good ole newspaper and checking your email on a 56k modem. i bet you stand in line at the checkout and write a check. you shouldn't be wasting time posting in these forums i think your mother is paging you better check your beeper.
April 07, 2014, 10:35:43 PM
Are you guys watching what's happenning with BlackCoin right now? Can we expect such hype to happen to HVC anytime soon? I start to feel HVC is not that unique as we all try to believe.
Follow your feelings. They are correct.
THE IPO IS CANCELLED DUE TO NEGATIVE ACTIVITY FORM FRAUDULENT USERS! ALL BTC PAID WILL BE REFUNDED TO USERS.
There is a network of scammers that post bad things about a coin and then demand BTC to erase the posts: scam_exposer and sitefive.
This is the proof a PM sent to us, now they demand us BTC to erase all those posts:
http://s16.postimg.org/hohih3nr9/scamx.jpg
Now we know what were they real reasons. I hope that maybe that is not the real reason and they can apologise now for the things they said. That will prove them to be not scammers and maybe they were just wrong about us.
We are now just going to launch the coin without an IPO. We have erase the IPO from main post. Just to proof these people they were doing lies and trying to make schemes with posting bad stuff then demand BTC to erase the posts. We will launch the coin!
As soon as we communicate with our web developer will update the site about it too.
EDIT: thimo is not part of this PMs, please don't hold anything bad about him or post bad things in his thread. We wish them good luck with their coin. Our apologies.
There is a network of scammers that post bad things about a coin and then demand BTC to erase the posts: scam_exposer and sitefive.
This is the proof a PM sent to us, now they demand us BTC to erase all those posts:
http://s16.postimg.org/hohih3nr9/scamx.jpg
Now we know what were they real reasons. I hope that maybe that is not the real reason and they can apologise now for the things they said. That will prove them to be not scammers and maybe they were just wrong about us.
We are now just going to launch the coin without an IPO. We have erase the IPO from main post. Just to proof these people they were doing lies and trying to make schemes with posting bad stuff then demand BTC to erase the posts. We will launch the coin!
As soon as we communicate with our web developer will update the site about it too.
EDIT: thimo is not part of this PMs, please don't hold anything bad about him or post bad things in his thread. We wish them good luck with their coin. Our apologies.
Shutup Scam Exposer, we all know you run the real SCAM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6039800
April 07, 2014, 09:47:35 PM
vote 1024 more coins woot
In the mint phase the coin limit is 45 million coins. A vote of 1024 just gets us to the limit phase faster. The votes in the next 2 phases are what will determine the total supply.
i know get em before the asics do.. everyone knows bigger is better !
April 07, 2014, 08:39:46 PM
we have more exchange but price and vol low. Now we need more community news.
April 07, 2014, 08:37:08 PM
vote 1024 more coins woot
In the mint phase the coin limit is 45 million coins. A vote of 1024 just gets us to the limit phase faster. The votes in the next 2 phases are what will determine the total supply.
April 07, 2014, 08:05:00 PM
vote 1024 more coins woot
April 07, 2014, 07:24:25 PM
I don't think it's life support for a dying coin but it is in essence life support. Unless im misunderstanding the concept the part that gets me is that it centralizes the currency. Without that pool and the operators the coin likely dies. One select group controls the fate of the coin no matter how many followers there are. The coin relies on the group to profit from mining alts to boost there own coin value. It centralizes the risk/reward.
bc/nxt/dogeshit, kings of parasitic shitcoins. why would anyone use a shitcoin as a pair base instead of btc?
(lets see whats next on the agenda of pump and dump fraud scamcoins)
don't let the zealotry of bagholders fool you, they have no way out so their only option is to sucker in as many losers as possible to cut their losses.
to guys like this anything that is not BTC is a scam. stuck in the past praying another coin doesn't go main stream, because the reality is almost every other coins out there is faster and better than BTC. If BTC wasn't the very first crypto currency it would be dead.
April 07, 2014, 05:19:46 PM
Charts here: http://crypto-prices.com/HVC
April 07, 2014, 05:17:48 PM
Honestly, it sounds like life support for a coin that got mined out before it could catch on. Why wouldnt you mine coins with more value and buy BC if you wanted? What happens when a coin you are mining for them gains value, but all you have is a bag of BC? No thanks.
It's not that simple, they take the mined coins pay out in BC but then use the profits from said mined coins to then buy up BC on the markets. It's a multistage process, basically it creates constant buy support. Here is a normal day for blackcoin on Mintpal
24 Hour Volume:
364.171 BTC
This is 80% of the BC multipool buying up blackcoin to sustain and drive it's price. If you watch it daily you'll see the btc volume is always ridiculous because of it. They then take the BC purchased and distribute it like a cycle of events to the ones mining their multipool.
I think it's a great idea, wish I knew something about coding because I would support this with my rig.
I don't think it's life support for a dying coin but it is in essence life support. Unless im misunderstanding the concept the part that gets me is that it centralizes the currency. Without that pool and the operators the coin likely dies. One select group controls the fate of the coin no matter how many followers there are. The coin relies on the group to profit from mining alts to boost there own coin value. It centralizes the risk/reward.
certainly is a novel concept, and there is no denying the knock on market effects it has, constant buy support provides pyschological re-assurance. If a HVC centric multipool appeared it would be great.
Im not necessarily against it but gotta hope the central
April 07, 2014, 05:16:25 PM
Honestly, it sounds like life support for a coin that got mined out before it could catch on. Why wouldnt you mine coins with more value and buy BC if you wanted? What happens when a coin you are mining for them gains value, but all you have is a bag of BC? No thanks.
It's not that simple, they take the mined coins pay out in BC but then use the profits from said mined coins to then buy up BC on the markets. It's a multistage process, basically it creates constant buy support. Here is a normal day for blackcoin on Mintpal
24 Hour Volume:
364.171 BTC
This is 80% of the BC multipool buying up blackcoin to sustain and drive it's price. If you watch it daily you'll see the btc volume is always ridiculous because of it. They then take the BC purchased and distribute it like a cycle of events to the ones mining their multipool.
I think it's a great idea, wish I knew something about coding because I would support this with my rig.
Yeah im not necessarily against it but rather pointing out that if issues arise with the central
I don't think it's life support for a dying coin but it is in essence life support. Unless im misunderstanding the concept the part that gets me is that it centralizes the currency. Without that pool and the operators the coin likely dies. One select group controls the fate of the coin no matter how many followers there are. The coin relies on the group to profit from mining alts to boost there own coin value. It centralizes the risk/reward.
certainly is a novel concept, and there is no denying the knock on market effects it has, constant buy support provides pyschological re-assurance. If a HVC centric multipool appeared it would be great.
April 07, 2014, 04:42:55 PM
Honestly, it sounds like life support for a coin that got mined out before it could catch on. Why wouldnt you mine coins with more value and buy BC if you wanted? What happens when a coin you are mining for them gains value, but all you have is a bag of BC? No thanks.
It's not that simple, they take the mined coins pay out in BC but then use the profits from said mined coins to then buy up BC on the markets. It's a multistage process, basically it creates constant buy support. Here is a normal day for blackcoin on Mintpal
24 Hour Volume:
364.171 BTC
This is 80% of the BC multipool buying up blackcoin to sustain and drive it's price. If you watch it daily you'll see the btc volume is always ridiculous because of it. They then take the BC purchased and distribute it like a cycle of events to the ones mining their multipool.
I think it's a great idea, wish I knew something about coding because I would support this with my rig.
I don't think it's life support for a dying coin but it is in essence life support. Unless im misunderstanding the concept the part that gets me is that it centralizes the currency. Without that pool and the operators the coin likely dies. One select group controls the fate of the coin no matter how many followers there are. The coin relies on the group to profit from mining alts to boost there own coin value. It centralizes the risk/reward.
certainly is a novel concept, and there is no denying the knock on market effects it has, constant buy support provides pyschological re-assurance. If a HVC centric multipool appeared it would be great.
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