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hero member
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To boldly go where no rabbit has gone before...
For the noobs, raising funds and promising you mining dividends is not new.

This was a project that did it a while ago: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annmnmlaunched-mineum-x13-pow-started-1461341

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mineum/


You're better off keeping your ETH.

Just saying...

I understand your caution, but projects strongly depend on people driving them.

Mineum could have just been a bunch of scammers riding on a good idea
newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
For the noobs, raising funds and promising you mining dividends is not new.

This was a project that did it a while ago: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annmnmlaunched-mineum-x13-pow-started-1461341

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mineum/


You're better off keeping your ETH.

Just saying...

Not only cryptomining:

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zrcoin/

If an investor invests in something he don't fully understand, it's the same thing that playing roulette... not investment but a game.
Better yes just keep the ETH and hold it forever.
newbie
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Hey I wish you best of luck with your ICO and work.

Can you please explain how the hardware is cleaned from dust and how often? 
As far as I know dust is a big problem for farms, and as seen in that video, you don't clean the air from dust before the air reaches your hardware.


Hello fastlane777,

Since the location is next to the river there is no problem with dust there. It is only necessary to remove spider webs from time to time.

In the containers there are airfilters so the hardware is protected.

Thank you very much for your answer! I will post two more questions. I am newbie, the questions may look a little bit silly, please have patience Smiley

1. The hardware can be used for a few years (2-3 years) after that it will have to be renewed. Is it right? How long the hardware will work and what are the plants to renew it?

2. Part of hardware always dont' work, what is the percent that will be "offline"? I heard it is 20-30% of all capacity, it it true?


member
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Love the idea. I want to invest, but I need to understand every part of it. There's some things that I don't get. One of the pics it says that you will buy back tokens with 10% of the proceeds.

1. Will you burn (destroy) the tokens you bought back?
2. How can you sell remaining tokens and buy them back at the same time?
3. Will there be a measure to ensure you don't send proceeds to lost/inactive tokens? Lost keys, wrong address, holder died, etc?
4. And finally: I assume all this will be done "forever", meaning until the company closes down or some major changes happen?

Also, I have sent you two emails from the website form days ago, and I haven't received an answer to any of them. Not sure if there's something wrong with the form.

Thank you!

#edit
Also I'm sorry you have to endure all these stupid comments about your looks. One can only hope that karma will strike back somehow.
legendary
Activity: 1212
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For the noobs, raising funds and promising you mining dividends is not new.

This was a project that did it a while ago: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annmnmlaunched-mineum-x13-pow-started-1461341

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mineum/


You're better off keeping your ETH.

Just saying...

Some people got scammed once by a cloud mining venture and that means that all cloud mining ventures in the present and future will forever be scams?

legendary
Activity: 1212
Merit: 1037
What happens to unsold tokens?

They will be locked and reserved for future token sales.

What will happen then with the dividends?If the amount of tokens increase, wont the profit for each one decrease?

No, because there will be even more mining hardware earning more coins. There will be no dilution.
hero member
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For the noobs, raising funds and promising you mining dividends is not new.

This was a project that did it a while ago: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annmnmlaunched-mineum-x13-pow-started-1461341

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mineum/


You're better off keeping your ETH.

Just saying...
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
What happens to unsold tokens?

They will be locked and reserved for future token sales.

What will happen then with the dividends?If the amount of tokens increase, wont the profit for each one decrease?
full member
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Merit: 102
Republia - New Blockchain Technology
I asked this question directly via email, but never received any reply, so let me try again:
What is the hydro energy price compared to the other energy sources?
There are many mining ICOs currently open and I was wondering how important would it be for the profitability of this kind of project.

Your reply will be appreciated. Thanks!

Hello acb073,

Hydro energy in Austria is about the cheapest you can get without state subsidies.

Here is the list of average electricity prices in Austria (for private users) in cents/KWh:
https://stromliste.at/strompreis

Wien   19.59
Niederösterreich   19.73
Oberösterreich   22.70
Burgenland   19.23
Steiermark   21.44
Kärnten   22.90
Salzburg   18.40
Tirol*   18.57
Vorarlberg   18.00

HydroMiner is currently paying 4.25-4.5 c/KWh

For a study about wholesale enegry prices, please refer to pages 10-12 of the white paper ("Energy Market")

Quoting Nadine Damblon:

Quote
In Austria and Germany, there are different incentive programs for eco-friendly power. In Austria, there are grants for building hydro power stations and there is an incentivized guaranteed energy price of around 10cent/kW for 10 years. After the 10 years expire, power companies pay a wholesale price of 2.5-3 cent/kw, and there are a whole set of stipulations, like overpayment for underperformance. This is why it is more interesting for hydro power stations that are over 10 years old to lease to us.
I hope i live in Austria too. Our electricity cost here is extremely high and monopolize for years after the government sold it to private sector. I saw the video uploaded regarding your site and it was truly fascinating. I would love to invest into this project as it will not just benefit the company but also me as a investor.
full member
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Bosnia...
What is your plan after ETH blockchain switches to PoS? Do you have any other candidates for the most profitable mining, which are going to stay with PoW for a long time?

Yes currently the rigs are mining ETH, SIA and other coins and whenever there are more profitable coins to mine they will be reallocated. There are also a couple of ASICs (mining DASH) and some more will be purchased for diversification after the token sale.

Please check this article: https://www.hydrominer.org/what-does-hydrominer-mine/



What about mining Monero?

I think the Monero belong in 20% of others group... Everything depends how they setup miners and what is good on market
full member
Activity: 327
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What is your plan after ETH blockchain switches to PoS? Do you have any other candidates for the most profitable mining, which are going to stay with PoW for a long time?

Yes currently the rigs are mining ETH, SIA and other coins and whenever there are more profitable coins to mine they will be reallocated. There are also a couple of ASICs (mining DASH) and some more will be purchased for diversification after the token sale.

Please check this article: https://www.hydrominer.org/what-does-hydrominer-mine/



What about mining Monero?
legendary
Activity: 1212
Merit: 1037
What is your plan after ETH blockchain switches to PoS? Do you have any other candidates for the most profitable mining, which are going to stay with PoW for a long time?

Yes currently the rigs are mining ETH, SIA and other coins and whenever there are more profitable coins to mine they will be reallocated. There are also a couple of ASICs (mining DASH) and some more will be purchased for diversification after the token sale.

Please check this article: https://www.hydrominer.org/what-does-hydrominer-mine/

newbie
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What is your plan after ETH blockchain switches to PoS? Do you have any other candidates for the most profitable mining, which are going to stay with PoW for a long time?
legendary
Activity: 1212
Merit: 1037

Thank you for your reply.
It means that even after the subsidies your energy price is double the price some other mining farms are paying.
How about the cost of cooling the facilities and the rigs? Have you calculated the cost of that?
Do you pay for leasing the grounds where your containers are placed? How significant is that?

Your reply will be appreciated.


1- These prices are NOT subsidised
2- I would like to know what mining farms pay half of this price, anywhere outside China of course (where anything related to crypto is becoming dangerous)
3- All the expenses you mention are discounted (as well as the 10% for the team and the 10% for token buyback) before arriving to the annual 80% ROI
newbie
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Looking out for more information about this on the blogs!
newbie
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I asked this question directly via email, but never received any reply, so let me try again:
What is the hydro energy price compared to the other energy sources?
There are many mining ICOs currently open and I was wondering how important would it be for the profitability of this kind of project.

Your reply will be appreciated. Thanks!

Hello acb073,

Hydro energy in Austria is about the cheapest you can get without state subsidies.

Here is the list of average electricity prices in Austria (for private users) in cents/KWh:
https://stromliste.at/strompreis

Wien   19.59
Niederösterreich   19.73
Oberösterreich   22.70
Burgenland   19.23
Steiermark   21.44
Kärnten   22.90
Salzburg   18.40
Tirol*   18.57
Vorarlberg   18.00

HydroMiner is currently paying 4.25-4.5 c/KWh

For a study about wholesale enegry prices, please refer to pages 10-12 of the white paper ("Energy Market")

Quoting Nadine Damblon:

Quote
In Austria and Germany, there are different incentive programs for eco-friendly power. In Austria, there are grants for building hydro power stations and there is an incentivized guaranteed energy price of around 10cent/kW for 10 years. After the 10 years expire, power companies pay a wholesale price of 2.5-3 cent/kw, and there are a whole set of stipulations, like overpayment for underperformance. This is why it is more interesting for hydro power stations that are over 10 years old to lease to us.


Thank you for your reply.
It means that even after the subsidies your energy price is double the price some other mining farms are paying.
How about the cost of cooling the facilities and the rigs? Have you calculated the cost of that?
Do you pay for leasing the grounds where your containers are placed? How significant is that?

Your reply will be appreciated.
legendary
Activity: 1212
Merit: 1037
Hey I wish you best of luck with your ICO and work.

Can you please explain how the hardware is cleaned from dust and how often? 
As far as I know dust is a big problem for farms, and as seen in that video, you don't clean the air from dust before the air reaches your hardware.


Hello fastlane777,

Since the location is next to the river there is no problem with dust there. It is only necessary to remove spider webs from time to time.

In the containers there are airfilters so the hardware is protected.
legendary
Activity: 1212
Merit: 1037
I asked this question directly via email, but never received any reply, so let me try again:
What is the hydro energy price compared to the other energy sources?
There are many mining ICOs currently open and I was wondering how important would it be for the profitability of this kind of project.

Your reply will be appreciated. Thanks!

Hello acb073,

Hydro energy in Austria is about the cheapest you can get without state subsidies.

Here is the list of average electricity prices in Austria (for private users) in cents/KWh:
https://stromliste.at/strompreis

Wien   19.59
Niederösterreich   19.73
Oberösterreich   22.70
Burgenland   19.23
Steiermark   21.44
Kärnten   22.90
Salzburg   18.40
Tirol*   18.57
Vorarlberg   18.00

HydroMiner is currently paying 4.25-4.5 c/KWh

For a study about wholesale enegry prices, please refer to pages 10-12 of the white paper ("Energy Market")

Quoting Nadine Damblon:

Quote
In Austria and Germany, there are different incentive programs for eco-friendly power. In Austria, there are grants for building hydro power stations and there is an incentivized guaranteed energy price of around 10cent/kW for 10 years. After the 10 years expire, power companies pay a wholesale price of 2.5-3 cent/kw, and there are a whole set of stipulations, like overpayment for underperformance. This is why it is more interesting for hydro power stations that are over 10 years old to lease to us.
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
I asked this question directly via email, but never received any reply, so let me try again:
What is the hydro energy price compared to the other energy sources?
There are many mining ICOs currently open and I was wondering how important would it be for the profitability of this kind of project.

Your reply will be appreciated. Thanks!
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 2353
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So one more time, I hope the team will explain us how they could rent power stations without having a registered company.
And I hope they will post some of their contracts.

Basically you can rent such a place as an individual as well, in the case of hydrominer it is currently rented with a company of one of our investors from Vienna, Austria.
As explained, the company plans to incorporate, however this process will be started once there is an indication of the level of funds that will be raised.
In fact the team has been in touch with lawyers in Austria (actually also the same team that consulted Heroes) and Switzerland. To establish a company that will allow fundraising to a certain extent.

However and it must be made clear, there is currently no company or group of people that could possibly claim a to have or to conduct an ICO in an existing legal framework. Mainly because there is no such framework anywhere in the world and furthermore because unless the ICO is completely local and all permissions in this particular place are in place. The typical ICO that aims at an international audience would therefore need to have legal documents from authorities of each country where the coins are sold including KYC and AML compliance for each investor, which in the case of cryptowallets is basically impossible.

ICO´s are a great way for startups to raise money in a completely unregulated und unchartered territory, its absolutely clear to everyone that this comes with high risks, for the management of ICO´s as well as the investors and this is what this forum is about, to answer crucial questions, make everybody aware of unclear aspects of ICO´s etc.

So the good thing here is that conducting an ICO is a risk and therefore the one who does it must be very cautious with the funds they receive, which is in fact good news to investors.

What does not work is in my humble opinion to try to bring these 2 worlds together, the totally overregulated world of finance where providing and raising funds has become a privilege of few state regulated entities that can afford the increasing governance and regulatory hurdles and the worlds of ICO´s that is based on trust and a network of individuals that reach out to the team, the advisors and actually visit the business by their own to make their own judgement.

If one wants to invest in the old world of finance, well 99.9999% of all financial products in the world are regulated and there is plenty out there.
If one wants to regain the freedom to make your own investment decisions, then ICO´s are a miniscule market where this can work.
Thanks for your answer and thank you for the video.
You are very pretty.
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