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Topic: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform - page 294. (Read 1253958 times)

legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
December 16, 2016, 01:29:30 AM
I've been away and just checked that my ICN is already 2X its value in bitcoin! That was the best investment I ever made.
sr. member
Activity: 284
Merit: 250
Crypto Future here i come
December 16, 2016, 12:54:01 AM
This don't make sense to me. Why the dividends are not paid back as ICN? If it was to be paid in ICN, then ICN price will rise instead of ETH, right?

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

If all will be receiving ICN as dividends, all would be keeping their dividends to recieve dividends later.  And one day the team will lose everything for all ICN are already given to holders.

So,   the dividends will be paid in ETH because the smart contract for the distribution is only paying in ETH, ICN is an Ethereum based Token!

And I think they mentioned there will be an option where you can automatically  let your  ETH dividends been sold at the ETH/ICN price at that time. So you will automatically will receive ICN if you wich!
hero member
Activity: 788
Merit: 1000
December 16, 2016, 12:19:35 AM
I can personally vouch for Liqui. I have sent 10 BTC through them and withdrew with no problems. They are hands down the most painless and least intrusive exchange I have ever dealt with. All you have to do is create a password and you are good to go. They don't ask for your address, phone number, photo, children's names, etc. If it wasn't for the lower volume I would use them more. But ironically they won't get a higher volume unless people start using them.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1055
December 15, 2016, 11:49:47 PM
This don't make sense to me. Why the dividends are not paid back as ICN? If it was to be paid in ICN, then ICN price will rise instead of ETH, right?

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

If all will be receiving ICN as dividends, all would be keeping their dividends to recieve dividends later.  And one day the team will lose everything for all ICN are already given to holders.
newbie
Activity: 34
Merit: 0
December 15, 2016, 11:36:19 PM
This don't make sense to me. Why the dividends are not paid back as ICN? If it was to be paid in ICN, then ICN price will rise instead of ETH, right?

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

I would prefer to have dividends paid in BTC or even fiat $$$ USD but if regulations gets in the way then I am more than content with getting paid in BTC.

ETH is alright, at least people who are in New York and some other states where they can't sell any of their ICN or buy because they can't use Kraken would be able to at least cash out their dividends if they get paid in ETH and would be able to exchange them at bittrex.com thats assuming that ICN doesn't ever gets added to any other exchange and remains a Kraken only game which personally I dont think (and hope) it doesn't occur, but if it were to happen at least New Yorkers, et all would have some recourse in profiting from their initial ICO investment in the form of being able to have access to their dividends payout without having to sell their house and move to New Jersey just to be able to exchange their dividends (which would be the case if Dividends were to be paid in ICN)

I agree!!  Diversity is key to giving out the deprived ones options to cash out in their profits by getting paid in a currency they have access to.

As a New Yorker, I am missing out on this opportunity, I really REALLY want to purchase some ICN but I cant and I didn't took part on the ICO how stupid of me that I didn't risk 5 FIVE! Bitcoins out of the total of 19,700's BTC I currently hold at my wallet.dat locally today I would invest alot more than 5BTC into ICN if I could.  I know I have liqui but I just can't lend myself to trust them plus their liquidity sucks.  I hope that 2017 bring me and us New Yorkers some options to buy ICN and that the damage isn't too great.

full member
Activity: 129
Merit: 100
December 15, 2016, 11:19:30 PM
This don't make sense to me. Why the dividends are not paid back as ICN? If it was to be paid in ICN, then ICN price will rise instead of ETH, right?

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

I would prefer to have dividends paid in BTC or even fiat $$$ USD but if regulations gets in the way then I am more than content with getting paid in BTC.

ETH is alright, at least people who are in New York and some other states where they can't sell any of their ICN or buy because they can't use Kraken would be able to at least cash out their dividends if they get paid in ETH and would be able to exchange them at bittrex.com thats assuming that ICN doesn't ever gets added to any other exchange and remains a Kraken only game which personally I dont think (and hope) it doesn't occur, but if it were to happen at least New Yorkers, et all would have some recourse in profiting from their initial ICO investment in the form of being able to have access to their dividends payout without having to sell their house and move to New Jersey just to be able to exchange their dividends (which would be the case if Dividends were to be paid in ICN)
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1055
December 15, 2016, 10:48:16 PM
fuck me.

so many self-entitled pricks on here.

 Roll Eyes

They were expecting to pull the price down from 23k down to 15k but it goes 28k instead. It should be frustrating to them as they are expecting to buy on such price. Now they are regreting for not buying at 23k.

You guys should buy at 28k if you have the money.
newbie
Activity: 34
Merit: 0
December 15, 2016, 10:41:14 PM
Iconomi has met all targets and deadlines early or on time.
Except their promise that we can "Expect ICN to be Listed on Several Major Exchanges".

https://i.imgur.com/qSp2KPi.png

You're posting this for months now. Who the fuck cares about that. Get Icnx and Platform done.

You would care if you lived in New York or other states where Kraken is not available.
http://blog.kraken.com/post/126244351097/farewell-new-york

This problem can easily be fixed by the creation of decentralized exchanges.  Currently Waves is working on that and I wish them the best luck in completing that project successfully.
 
Decentralized exchanges doesnt care about regulations and where in the world is Carmen Sandiego you are, there is no middle man to create SAR's (Suspicious Activity Reports) and account freezes.

I would like to point out that I dont think Kraken cares about its customers, if they did, they would have invested in Licensing so that they can operate in all 50 states just like I see Bittrex have done, along Coinbase, Bitstamp, and even Ripple(!!) all these exchanges plus much more are wide open not just to New Yorkers, but to all 50 states, but noooo Kraken, Poloniex and Bitfinnex have to be the black sheep not to undergo the licensing process to make themselves available to all 50 states.  That's how you know which exchanges are worth it and truly cares about each and everyone of their customers and those mediocre ones that are pick and choose selectives in the name of cheapness refusing to serve customers from a few states.
The real problem is not the license, they are the high fees, that would take them out of the business because they would have to charge it to the users

But some of these exchanges makes so much money that it wouldn't even byte them having to pay for these licenses.  Example: Poloniex, dont you tell me that Poloniex makes less money than Bittrex but yes Bittrex managed to have been able to pay for Licensing and I dont see them charging anything special to any New Yorkers or any other states that is affected by licensing issues.

Maybe Kraken might go out of business judging by the number of coins listed there to guestimate their profit levels, but if that held any merit then Bitstamp shouldn't have been able to afford a BitLicense given the fact that they only do Bitcoin and a pesky XRP IOU, not even ethereum, where Kraken does BTX, ETH, ETC, ICN, XRP, and some others so by definition Kraken should be more profitable than Bitstamp and if Bitstamp were able to perfectly afford Licensing so Kraken should have ahd no trouble, and no none of these exchanges that did got licensed are charging anything extra or special to no one, its a free service charging only standard trading fees.
hero member
Activity: 1926
Merit: 538
December 15, 2016, 10:06:37 PM
Good point about Iconomi homepage.
I'm sure we've lost TONS of investors because of that...
I hope they can fix that ASAP.

so this is the major reason for not admitting ICN on big exchanges : a new concurrent must not be favorized.
later they could appear as a different company, classified as investment;
but we have to admit a confusion of concepts at onset.

Edit: this confusion of concepts logically results later in 2 different entities.
and they should gain from this differenciation, now that they become more known and understood..
full member
Activity: 239
Merit: 250
December 15, 2016, 10:02:11 PM
Iconomi has met all targets and deadlines early or on time.
Except their promise that we can "Expect ICN to be Listed on Several Major Exchanges".



You're posting this for months now. Who the fuck cares about that. Get Icnx and Platform done.

You would care if you lived in New York or other states where Kraken is not available.
http://blog.kraken.com/post/126244351097/farewell-new-york

This problem can easily be fixed by the creation of decentralized exchanges.  Currently Waves is working on that and I wish them the best luck in completing that project successfully.
 
Decentralized exchanges doesnt care about regulations and where in the world is Carmen Sandiego you are, there is no middle man to create SAR's (Suspicious Activity Reports) and account freezes.

I would like to point out that I dont think Kraken cares about its customers, if they did, they would have invested in Licensing so that they can operate in all 50 states just like I see Bittrex have done, along Coinbase, Bitstamp, and even Ripple(!!) all these exchanges plus much more are wide open not just to New Yorkers, but to all 50 states, but noooo Kraken, Poloniex and Bitfinnex have to be the black sheep not to undergo the licensing process to make themselves available to all 50 states.  That's how you know which exchanges are worth it and truly cares about each and everyone of their customers and those mediocre ones that are pick and choose selectives in the name of cheapness refusing to serve customers from a few states.
The real problem is not the license, they are the high fees, that would take them out of the business because they would have to charge it to the users
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 252
December 15, 2016, 09:09:10 PM
fuck me.

so many self-entitled pricks on here.

 Roll Eyes
newbie
Activity: 34
Merit: 0
December 15, 2016, 09:01:09 PM
Iconomi has met all targets and deadlines early or on time.
Except their promise that we can "Expect ICN to be Listed on Several Major Exchanges".

https://i.imgur.com/qSp2KPi.png

You're posting this for months now. Who the fuck cares about that. Get Icnx and Platform done.

You would care if you lived in New York or other states where Kraken is not available.
http://blog.kraken.com/post/126244351097/farewell-new-york

This problem can easily be fixed by the creation of decentralized exchanges.  Currently Waves is working on that and I wish them the best luck in completing that project successfully.

Decentralized exchanges doesnt care about regulations and where in the world is Carmen Sandiego you are, there is no middle man to create SAR's (Suspicious Activity Reports) and account freezes.

I would like to point out that I dont think Kraken cares about its customers, if they did, they would have invested in Licensing so that they can operate in all 50 states just like I see Bittrex have done, along Coinbase, Bitstamp, and even Ripple(!!) all these exchanges plus much more are wide open not just to New Yorkers, but to all 50 states, but noooo Kraken, Poloniex and Bitfinnex have to be the black sheep not to undergo the licensing process to make themselves available to all 50 states.  That's how you know which exchanges are worth it and truly cares about each and everyone of their customers and those mediocre ones that are pick and choose selectives in the name of cheapness refusing to serve customers from a few states.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
December 15, 2016, 08:23:30 PM
Just a thought...

Some whales in New York could easily be keeping pressure on price, until ICN is added to another exchange where they can trade.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
December 15, 2016, 08:19:57 PM
Iconomi has met all targets and deadlines early or on time.
Except their promise that we can "Expect ICN to be Listed on Several Major Exchanges".



You're posting this for months now. Who the fuck cares about that. Get Icnx and Platform done.

You would care if you lived in New York or other states where Kraken is not available.
http://blog.kraken.com/post/126244351097/farewell-new-york
sr. member
Activity: 514
Merit: 353
Respect has to be earned, just like money!
December 15, 2016, 08:10:31 PM
You're welcome.

Just inquiring, where does your smoke come from, I have my guesses  Smiley



Straight outta yobit.

Why are people so anxious? Have some patience, everything will eventually come in time  Smiley

I know, if it looked like a P&D coins they could still make a profit now but most of us
think otherwise.



Hodl is the key, my friends.
sr. member
Activity: 305
Merit: 250
December 15, 2016, 07:59:10 PM
Why are people so anxious? Have some patience, everything will eventually come in time  Smiley

I know, if it looked like a P&D coins they could still make a profit now but most of us
think otherwise.

full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
ICONOMI enthousiast
December 15, 2016, 07:55:21 PM
Why are people so anxious? Have some patience, everything will eventually come in time  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3332
Merit: 1034
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
December 15, 2016, 07:53:35 PM
I see ChronoBank is the next ICONOMI Wink

Hardly. Its a good project but its potential growth is smaller. First, adoption of crypto world in many countries is quite slow (from people point of view and also from government). Secondly, their idea can be much easier copied (it is not so revolutionary as Iconomi). And thirldy, Iconomi team made before Cashilla which is kind a complementary with Iconomi. Chronobank did not do anything similar in the past
The time tokens on the other hand are basically company shares which will receive dividends if the company grows (just like ICN).
Especially I can get it just use ethereum wallet (ERC 20) and selling free shares for money.
The instant ways for building your virtual companies.  Cheesy Cool Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 317
Merit: 317
December 15, 2016, 07:52:58 PM
The answer would be, if you want to moan, sell your ICN now at a profit and let
the people who see a future enjoy the promise which is more than a promise
if you bought during the ICO.


That would be the best thing to do for those who keeps on sobbing about major exchanges. There are plenty of buyers waiting for their orders to get filled.
sr. member
Activity: 305
Merit: 250
December 15, 2016, 07:50:30 PM
You're welcome.

Just inquiring, where does your smoke come from, I have my guesses  Smiley

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