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sr. member
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December 17, 2016, 11:38:33 AM
I see ChronoBank is the next ICONOMI Wink

Hardly. Its a good project but its potential growth is smaller. First, adoption of crypto world in many countries is quite slow (from people point of view and also from government). Secondly, their idea can be much easier copied (it is not so revolutionary as Iconomi). And thirldy, Iconomi team made before Cashilla which is kind a complementary with Iconomi. Chronobank did not do anything similar in the past

I won't comment if ChronoBank will be successful or not long term since it's all speculation and we are still years away of crypto going truly mainstream. However your arguments could be applied just the same to Iconomi. They seem to have plenty of connections and experience with real companies and employees, they are not coming from nothing. If they manage to cut expenses compared to other options as they said, their business will flourish. I think this is similar to Lykke (that's much more focused on banking, money transfer, etc but I believe they still aim for services exchanges).

I think what distinguishes ChronoBank from other cryptoprojects is that LH tokens will actually have parity with current real world currencies. Let's face it, ETH, BTC, XMR are hardly spent or used daily because people hoard them. Volatility is the final nail on the coffin and the reason you can't really build a real world/daily business strictly based on cryptocurrencies other than a exchange or a betting site  Grin

The time tokens on the other hand are basically company shares which will receive dividends if the company grows (just like ICN).

I was a bit unfair to note just what I see from negative side. Of course your comment summarizes good points which I agree. I am still worried about those negative sides though

I've been doing some more research on ChronoBank and you can read a great review at https://www.smithandcrown.com/participate-chronobank-crowdsale/

What's very interesting is this Edway group...they are basically coming up with Chronobank to solve their own problems, so that basically guarantees the project will have clients and employees already. This is a major advantage since it's basically the hardest part for any ico or new company (Iconomi for example will have to heavily promote its service to fiat investors, unless they already have some).

Now, there are a lot of cons and question marks of course too but it's really a genuine and unique approach to actually use bring blockchain to the masses and be a solution, not a possibility. If crypto ever becomes a powerful industry in this new economy projects like Iconomi, Chronobank, Golem, Steem, Factom, Storj/Sia, ArcadeCity, etc, who are focused on a sector, niche or service will be the cornerstones of it.

This assuming they have time to develop before the real boom and keep improving and adapting. That's why old giants like IBM, Microsoft and many others are still kings and trustable companies.

Guys... please fuck your selves elsewhere. no one here gives a shit about your chrono cunt fuck.
legendary
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December 17, 2016, 11:32:08 AM
I see ChronoBank is the next ICONOMI Wink

Hardly. Its a good project but its potential growth is smaller. First, adoption of crypto world in many countries is quite slow (from people point of view and also from government). Secondly, their idea can be much easier copied (it is not so revolutionary as Iconomi). And thirldy, Iconomi team made before Cashilla which is kind a complementary with Iconomi. Chronobank did not do anything similar in the past

I won't comment if ChronoBank will be successful or not long term since it's all speculation and we are still years away of crypto going truly mainstream. However your arguments could be applied just the same to Iconomi. They seem to have plenty of connections and experience with real companies and employees, they are not coming from nothing. If they manage to cut expenses compared to other options as they said, their business will flourish. I think this is similar to Lykke (that's much more focused on banking, money transfer, etc but I believe they still aim for services exchanges).

I think what distinguishes ChronoBank from other cryptoprojects is that LH tokens will actually have parity with current real world currencies. Let's face it, ETH, BTC, XMR are hardly spent or used daily because people hoard them. Volatility is the final nail on the coffin and the reason you can't really build a real world/daily business strictly based on cryptocurrencies other than a exchange or a betting site  Grin

The time tokens on the other hand are basically company shares which will receive dividends if the company grows (just like ICN).

I was a bit unfair to note just what I see from negative side. Of course your comment summarizes good points which I agree. I am still worried about those negative sides though

I've been doing some more research on ChronoBank and you can read a great review at https://www.smithandcrown.com/participate-chronobank-crowdsale/

What's very interesting is this Edway group...they are basically coming up with Chronobank to solve their own problems, so that basically guarantees the project will have clients and employees already. This is a major advantage since it's basically the hardest part for any ico or new company (Iconomi for example will have to heavily promote its service to fiat investors, unless they already have some).

Now, there are a lot of cons and question marks of course too but it's really a genuine and unique approach to actually use bring blockchain to the masses and be a solution, not a possibility. If crypto ever becomes a powerful industry in this new economy projects like Iconomi, Chronobank, Golem, Steem, Factom, Storj/Sia, ArcadeCity, etc, who are focused on a sector, niche or service will be the cornerstones of it.

This assuming they have time to develop before the real boom and keep improving and adapting. That's why old giants like IBM, Microsoft and many others are still kings and trustable companies.
hero member
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December 17, 2016, 11:29:17 AM
Many here asume that the dividends are going to be very low. If this is true then ICN will be a very poor investment. You should instead invest your capital in ICNX or ICNP, and not in ICN itself.
legendary
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December 17, 2016, 10:29:20 AM
I have my funds in myetherwallet as I bought recently at Kraken. I didn't follow all the announcements and developments. I want to see all the features fully functional more. I have small number of ICN so dividends isn't a big issue for me at least in my case. I will prefer to see more highly price in near future.
sr. member
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December 17, 2016, 09:51:20 AM
I see ChronoBank is the next ICONOMI Wink

Hardly. Its a good project but its potential growth is smaller. First, adoption of crypto world in many countries is quite slow (from people point of view and also from government). Secondly, their idea can be much easier copied (it is not so revolutionary as Iconomi). And thirldy, Iconomi team made before Cashilla which is kind a complementary with Iconomi. Chronobank did not do anything similar in the past

I won't comment if ChronoBank will be successful or not long term since it's all speculation and we are still years away of crypto going truly mainstream. However your arguments could be applied just the same to Iconomi. They seem to have plenty of connections and experience with real companies and employees, they are not coming from nothing. If they manage to cut expenses compared to other options as they said, their business will flourish. I think this is similar to Lykke (that's much more focused on banking, money transfer, etc but I believe they still aim for services exchanges).

I think what distinguishes ChronoBank from other cryptoprojects is that LH tokens will actually have parity with current real world currencies. Let's face it, ETH, BTC, XMR are hardly spent or used daily because people hoard them. Volatility is the final nail on the coffin and the reason you can't really build a real world/daily business strictly based on cryptocurrencies other than a exchange or a betting site  Grin

The time tokens on the other hand are basically company shares which will receive dividends if the company grows (just like ICN).

I was a bit unfair to note just what I see from negative side. Of course your comment summarizes good points which I agree. I am still worried about those negative sides though
sr. member
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December 17, 2016, 07:03:39 AM
Why all the noise about dividends now, this has been started before and people were advised to move their tokens to the wallet which they control the private keys not exchange wallet

I haven't moved my ICN yet, so I'm keeping them in ico.iconomi.net wallet so will I received the divideds?

I'm not sure that I hold the private key since it is a web iconomi platform??

It was EXPLICITLY STATED that if YOU HOLD your ICO tokens on the native platform, you will GET YOUR DIVIDENDS.

If you moved your ICN to an ETH wallet, then as long as you have access to the private keys to said wallet, you get dividends.

So these are the TWO CLEAR-CUT CASES where you get dividends.

As for exchanges paying dividends, it's up to them.

Thank you for clearing this up as there have been many pages and is hard to read all of them

But you have missed my other question which is as much important as the first one:

But the question is when is this going to happen and how much will be dividend for 1k ICN?

go fuck yourself you fucking twat

you are gonna get shit for 1K ICN unless iconomi makes a billion dollar profit every month. 
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ICONOMI enthousiast
December 17, 2016, 06:59:03 AM
There will be price drop on Christmas. Smiley
Well, maybe not! Wink


Or maybe yes, ... from 100k satoshi to 80k satoshi Wink
that's not bad actually  Grin

I guess 60/70k around christmas, you never know in this crazy crypto world. Cheesy
sr. member
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December 17, 2016, 06:49:29 AM
Why all the noise about dividends now, this has been started before and people were advised to move their tokens to the wallet which they control the private keys not exchange wallet

I haven't moved my ICN yet, so I'm keeping them in ico.iconomi.net wallet so will I received the divideds?

I'm not sure that I hold the private key since it is a web iconomi platform??

It was EXPLICITLY STATED that if YOU HOLD your ICO tokens on the native platform, you will GET YOUR DIVIDENDS.

If you moved your ICN to an ETH wallet, then as long as you have access to the private keys to said wallet, you get dividends.

So these are the TWO CLEAR-CUT CASES where you get dividends.

As for exchanges paying dividends, it's up to them.

Thank you for clearing this up as there have been many pages and is hard to read all of them

But you have missed my other question which is as much important as the first one:

But the question is when is this going to happen and how much will be dividend for 1k ICN?

go fuck yourself you fucking twat
legendary
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December 17, 2016, 06:42:45 AM
Why all the noise about dividends now, this has been started before and people were advised to move their tokens to the wallet which they control the private keys not exchange wallet

I haven't moved my ICN yet, so I'm keeping them in ico.iconomi.net wallet so will I received the divideds?

I'm not sure that I hold the private key since it is a web iconomi platform??

It was EXPLICITLY STATED that if YOU HOLD your ICO tokens on the native platform, you will GET YOUR DIVIDENDS.

If you moved your ICN to an ETH wallet, then as long as you have access to the private keys to said wallet, you get dividends.

So these are the TWO CLEAR-CUT CASES where you get dividends.

As for exchanges paying dividends, it's up to them.

Thank you for clearing this up as there have been many pages and is hard to read all of them

But you have missed my other question which is as much important as the first one:

But the question is when is this going to happen and how much will be dividend for 1k ICN?
sr. member
Activity: 336
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December 17, 2016, 06:34:41 AM
Why all the noise about dividends now, this has been started before and people were advised to move their tokens to the wallet which they control the private keys not exchange wallet

I haven't moved my ICN yet, so I'm keeping them in ico.iconomi.net wallet so will I received the divideds?

I'm not sure that I hold the private key since it is a web iconomi platform??

It was EXPLICITLY STATED that if YOU HOLD your ICO tokens on the native platform, you will GET YOUR DIVIDENDS.

If you moved your ICN to an ETH wallet, then as long as you have access to the private keys to said wallet, you get dividends.

So these are the TWO CLEAR-CUT CASES where you get dividends.

As for exchanges paying dividends, it's up to them.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

As someone who HOLDS ICN and who WANTS Dividends, it's OBVIOUS that YOU FUCKING conform to the 2 stated conditions because computer says if you follow the rules, you get hookers and blow.

IF you Ignore the rules, then it's most likely the exchange owners are the ones who will be fucking YOUR hookers and sniffing YOUR blow.


legendary
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December 17, 2016, 06:19:10 AM
Why all the noise about dividends now, this has been started before and people were advised to move their tokens to the wallet which they control the private keys not exchange wallet

I haven't moved my ICN yet, so I'm keeping them in ico.iconomi.net wallet so will I received the divideds?

I'm not sure that I hold the private key since it is a web iconomi platform??
sr. member
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December 17, 2016, 06:17:19 AM
Why all the noise about dividends now, this has been started before and people were advised to move their tokens to the wallet which they control the private keys not exchange wallet
legendary
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December 17, 2016, 06:08:45 AM
I'm not up to date what is happening with ICONOMI so can you inform me with the latest news because the OP seems to not be active as it was.

So this thread has been 900 pages and it's hard to ready mostly everything and can you tell me some few big details ?

Thank you...

Iconomi had announced official release dates for beta and platform access:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/5hd6de/its_almost_middecember_whats_the_official_launch/

In general, if you want more clean and meaningful conversation and the team response - use reddit or the slack channel
https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/
https://iconominet.slack.com/messages/general/


Seems that liqui has confirmed that they will give their customers the dividends from ICONOMI.

But the question is when is this going to happen and how much will be dividend for 1k ICN?

Thank you...
legendary
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December 17, 2016, 05:52:30 AM
I completely agree with you, but don't forget about a day traders Wink We love to trade plus getting some dividends would be nice.

well, daytraders risk losng their ICN in an exchange hack and probably won't get dividends on kraken (liqui could still fuck up too)
legendary
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December 17, 2016, 05:30:53 AM
It's time to move ICN from Kraken to wallet if nobody want to sell right now. To get paid in dividends than move them into ETH wallet. Liqui took a great step to pay  to their customers if they will keep on exchange.
sr. member
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December 17, 2016, 05:10:33 AM
it's just unbelievable how icn can ignore btc price movements Wink
-snip-
 Anyone can safely keep your money in ICONOMI
ICN = ETH 2.0 To be true soon.  Cheesy Buy more and more ICN. I can't be patience for it. Who will be including in the early access?  Huh
I want to buy ICN but nobody seems to be selling it.
One question though,Can I keep my bought ICN in online ETH wallet and receive dividend?
Or should I create account at ICONOMI site to get dividend

FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!


HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT NEED TO BE SAID?

YOU GET YOUR FUCKING DIVIDENDS TO PAY FOR THE HOOKERS AND BLOW IF YOU HOLD THE PRIVATE KEYS TO YOUR FUCKING ETH WALLET OR IF YOU HOLD  ICN IN THE ICO WALLET.


 Roll Eyes


bullshit, everyone gets it
if you hold your icn on exchange, the exchange will get it and distribute to users. this was announced a long time ago..

GO FUCK YOURSELF.

KRAKEN HASN'T SAID JACK ABOUT DISTRIBUTING DIVIDENDS

AS FOR LIQUI-  Roll Eyes

SO SPARE YOUR FUCKING INDIGNATION AND STOP PULLING SUPPOSED FACTS OUT OF YOUR ASS !!!
hero member
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December 17, 2016, 05:07:19 AM
it's just unbelievable how icn can ignore btc price movements Wink
-snip-
 Anyone can safely keep your money in ICONOMI
ICN = ETH 2.0 To be true soon.  Cheesy Buy more and more ICN. I can't be patience for it. Who will be including in the early access?  Huh
I want to buy ICN but nobody seems to be selling it.
One question though,Can I keep my bought ICN in online ETH wallet and receive dividend?
Or should I create account at ICONOMI site to get dividend

FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!


HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT NEED TO BE SAID?

YOU GET YOUR FUCKING DIVIDENDS TO PAY FOR THE HOOKERS AND BLOW IF YOU HOLD THE PRIVATE KEYS TO YOUR FUCKING ETH WALLET OR IF YOU HOLD  ICN IN THE ICO WALLET.


 Roll Eyes


bullshit, everyone gets it
if you hold your icn on exchange, the exchange will get it and distribute to users. this was announced a long time ago..

For now only Liqui confirmed this.

no news from Kraken yet...

don't hold your ICN on an exchange.

I completely agree with you, but don't forget about a day traders Wink We love to trade plus getting some dividends would be nice.
legendary
Activity: 1764
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December 17, 2016, 05:01:44 AM
it's just unbelievable how icn can ignore btc price movements Wink
-snip-
 Anyone can safely keep your money in ICONOMI
ICN = ETH 2.0 To be true soon.  Cheesy Buy more and more ICN. I can't be patience for it. Who will be including in the early access?  Huh
I want to buy ICN but nobody seems to be selling it.
One question though,Can I keep my bought ICN in online ETH wallet and receive dividend?
Or should I create account at ICONOMI site to get dividend

FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!


HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT NEED TO BE SAID?

YOU GET YOUR FUCKING DIVIDENDS TO PAY FOR THE HOOKERS AND BLOW IF YOU HOLD THE PRIVATE KEYS TO YOUR FUCKING ETH WALLET OR IF YOU HOLD  ICN IN THE ICO WALLET.


 Roll Eyes


bullshit, everyone gets it
if you hold your icn on exchange, the exchange will get it and distribute to users. this was announced a long time ago..

For now only Liqui confirmed this.

no news from Kraken yet...

don't hold your ICN on an exchange.
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 508
December 17, 2016, 04:52:51 AM
it's just unbelievable how icn can ignore btc price movements Wink
-snip-
 Anyone can safely keep your money in ICONOMI
ICN = ETH 2.0 To be true soon.  Cheesy Buy more and more ICN. I can't be patience for it. Who will be including in the early access?  Huh
I want to buy ICN but nobody seems to be selling it.
One question though,Can I keep my bought ICN in online ETH wallet and receive dividend?
Or should I create account at ICONOMI site to get dividend

FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!


HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT NEED TO BE SAID?

YOU GET YOUR FUCKING DIVIDENDS TO PAY FOR THE HOOKERS AND BLOW IF YOU HOLD THE PRIVATE KEYS TO YOUR FUCKING ETH WALLET OR IF YOU HOLD  ICN IN THE ICO WALLET.


 Roll Eyes


bullshit, everyone gets it
if you hold your icn on exchange, the exchange will get it and distribute to users. this was announced a long time ago..

For now only Liqui confirmed this.

no news from Kraken yet...
sr. member
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December 17, 2016, 04:48:54 AM
Quote from: klintay
if you hold your icn on exchange, the exchange will get it and distribute to users. this was announced a long time ago..

Unless I've missed that announcement, are you sure it was said that exchanges would redistribute dividends? Would be nice to post link of it if available.
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