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October 17, 2016, 09:31:54 AM

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OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)

It works like this:
- you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option.

Then both mail me to this email with ":  ([email protected]) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for mLiqui Exchange:
yes of course, when we will ready to whiteLiqui Exchange:
Yes we can, our team is well known is Ukraine/Russia - dont worry label - we will update all infoatchmaker service.
(edited by request.)Liqui Exchange:
yes of course, when we will ready to white label - we will update all info
- seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mLiqui Exchange:
yes of course, when we will ready to white label - we will update all infoailing needs to be from that email)
- seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address
- which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons)

I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then:
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address
- within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm
- after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received
--
Jani Valjavec
Co-founder & CTO

Hello to all.

If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.

So how can we make sure that IOU ICN is the real iconomi? Can we Make sure that we can get our withdrawals if we would get it? This thing is mostly i want to ask with you since you starting the IOU first and surely many people would get doubts for this announcement but anyways its a good move for your site since you can gather people to try do trades in your site..

We answer already numerous times. Again - we invest customers funds to ICO Iconomi, we provide all transactions id. So it is obvious that these IOU tokens real.

And now according to Jani's post, everyone can move their ICO cabinet balance to Liqui ICO cabinet balance. After we see this happened - we credited your Liqui exchange account with equal amount of ICN. You can sell them and withdraw btc immediately or wait until network will launch and withdraw ICN.

P.S. Please lets discuss this option here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1636917.100, avoiding clutter up this thread.

why don't you share this info?
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1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders


You talk about something you know ... I personally bought and sold it from the beginning Liqui without any problem. I have some coins alí and remove four btc without any problem, so shut up loudmouth.




I can prove Liqui is scam.

They haven't even posted members names of the team behind it. Just a picture of 4 team members, which too appears photoshoped.

When I asked on Telegram the names of team members, they said-

Liqui Exchange:
yes of course, when we will ready to white label - we will update all info

Me:
Can you please at least give name of team members?
 
Liqui Exchange:
Yes we can, our team is well known is Ukraine/Russia - dont worry

Me:
Names?

Liqui Exchange:
Once again, when we decide to publish this - we will do this.

Me:
But why are you hiding this.?

Liqui Exchange:
It is our founders solution at that moment, Im support guy - cant provide you with this infotmation unfortunatelly


Now you only decide. I haven't seen a legit website which is not ready to disclose the names of team members.

If you don't trust me, try asking these questions to them in Telegram or I can give you screenshots as proof too.


Friend told me this is cool project
whatching buy some cheap coins
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 252
October 17, 2016, 09:28:47 AM
Man not sure how ANYONE could expect this kinda stuff to get to mainstream market/usage.  It becomes now WAY to consfusing and long winded for anyone to even understand or try to bother making time to use such ecosystem.  

fuck off and stick to shilling for your stupid Wild Pussy Cat Coin and its shit exchange.

You sir are the biggest wanker I have every seen but it's ok thanks for the free promotion.  It's ok to be jealous of a coin and dev who is smaller than these mostly bs ico's but has stuff coming bigger and better than them, and sooner HAHAHA.  Oh and also the most fair/legit not trying to scam like 99% here. 

Please have a nice life with bird flu virus.

yes yes, you've been shilling "SOON" forever now.

Wild Pussy Cat Coin should really be renamed WILL NEVER PUMP coin.

 Kiss
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 250
October 17, 2016, 09:25:51 AM

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OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)

It works like this:
- you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option.

Then both mail me to this email with ":  ([email protected]) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for mLiqui Exchange:
yes of course, when we will ready to whiteLiqui Exchange:
Yes we can, our team is well known is Ukraine/Russia - dont worry label - we will update all infoatchmaker service.
(edited by request.)Liqui Exchange:
yes of course, when we will ready to white label - we will update all info
- seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mLiqui Exchange:
yes of course, when we will ready to white label - we will update all infoailing needs to be from that email)
- seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address
- which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons)

I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then:
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address
- within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm
- after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received
--
Jani Valjavec
Co-founder & CTO

Hello to all.

If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.

So how can we make sure that IOU ICN is the real iconomi? Can we Make sure that we can get our withdrawals if we would get it? This thing is mostly i want to ask with you since you starting the IOU first and surely many people would get doubts for this announcement but anyways its a good move for your site since you can gather people to try do trades in your site..

We answer already numerous times. Again - we invest customers funds to ICO Iconomi, we provide all transactions id. So it is obvious that these IOU tokens real.

And now according to Jani's post, everyone can move their ICO cabinet balance to Liqui ICO cabinet balance. After we see this happened - we credited your Liqui exchange account with equal amount of ICN. You can sell them and withdraw btc immediately or wait until network will launch and withdraw ICN.

P.S. Please lets discuss this option here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1636917.100, avoiding clutter up this thread.

why don't you share this info?
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1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders


You talk about something you know ... I personally bought and sold it from the beginning Liqui without any problem. I have some coins alí and remove four btc without any problem, so shut up loudmouth.




I can prove Liqui is scam.

They haven't even posted members names of the team behind it. Just a picture of 4 team members, which too appears photoshoped.

When I asked on Telegram the names of team members, they said-

Liqui Exchange:
yes of course, when we will ready to white label - we will update all info

Me:
Can you please at least give name of team members?
 
Liqui Exchange:
Yes we can, our team is well known is Ukraine/Russia - dont worry

Me:
Names?

Liqui Exchange:
Once again, when we decide to publish this - we will do this.

Me:
But why are you hiding this.?

Liqui Exchange:
It is our founders solution at that moment, Im support guy - cant provide you with this infotmation unfortunatelly


Now you only decide. I haven't seen a legit website which is not ready to disclose the names of team members.

If you don't trust me, try asking these questions to them in Telegram or I can give you screenshots as proof too.
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1000
October 17, 2016, 09:06:19 AM
Man not sure how ANYONE could expect this kinda stuff to get to mainstream market/usage.  It becomes now WAY to consfusing and long winded for anyone to even understand or try to bother making time to use such ecosystem.  

fuck off and stick to shilling for your stupid Wild Pussy Cat Coin and its shit exchange.

You sir are the biggest wanker I have every seen but it's ok thanks for the free promotion.  It's ok to be jealous of a coin and dev who is smaller than these mostly bs ico's but has stuff coming bigger and better than them, and sooner HAHAHA.  Oh and also the most fair/legit not trying to scam like 99% here. 

Please have a nice life with bird flu virus.
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1000
October 17, 2016, 09:05:06 AM
Man not sure how ANYONE could expect this kinda stuff to get to mainstream market/usage.  It becomes now WAY to consfusing and long winded for anyone to even understand or try to bother making time to use such ecosystem. 

What do you mean by "now"? What has changed? If you do not understand, Im sure people here can help you out or simply do not invest in stuff that you do not fully understand. (not ment to be rude or anything)

LOL i get it better than non crypto but maybe not as good as all techie ppl for this indsutry.  Ionomi support via email has been very excellent thus far I found.  So this gives confidence but I still find it all this talk is great for techie cryptos but there is only "so much" money and ppl there.  If these companies wanna reach BIGGER audience and mainstream appeal they MUST make things easier to understand on the front-end.  Keep all such confusing techie shit to back end things.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 252
October 17, 2016, 09:02:56 AM
Man not sure how ANYONE could expect this kinda stuff to get to mainstream market/usage.  It becomes now WAY to consfusing and long winded for anyone to even understand or try to bother making time to use such ecosystem. 

fuck off and stick to shilling for your stupid Wild Pussy Cat Coin and its shit exchange.
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
October 17, 2016, 08:59:44 AM
Man not sure how ANYONE could expect this kinda stuff to get to mainstream market/usage.  It becomes now WAY to consfusing and long winded for anyone to even understand or try to bother making time to use such ecosystem.  

What do you mean by "now"? What has changed? If you do not understand, Im sure people here can help you out or simply do not invest in stuff that you do not fully understand. (not meant to be rude or anything)
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1000
October 17, 2016, 08:50:54 AM
Man not sure how ANYONE could expect this kinda stuff to get to mainstream market/usage.  It becomes now WAY to consfusing and long winded for anyone to even understand or try to bother making time to use such ecosystem. 
hero member
Activity: 1876
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October 17, 2016, 08:46:44 AM
When is the ICONOMI launch?

That should be after the Ehtereum Hard fork, provided everything works right after the hard fork
sr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 250
October 17, 2016, 08:41:49 AM

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OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)

It works like this:
- you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option.

Then both mail me to this email with ":  ([email protected]) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.)
- seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email)
- seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address
- which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons)

I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then:
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address
- within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm
- after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received
--
Jani Valjavec
Co-founder & CTO

Hello to all.

If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.

So how can we make sure that IOU ICN is the real iconomi? Can we Make sure that we can get our withdrawals if we would get it? This thing is mostly i want to ask with you since you starting the IOU first and surely many people would get doubts for this announcement but anyways its a good move for your site since you can gather people to try do trades in your site..

We answer already numerous times. Again - we invest customers funds to ICO Iconomi, we provide all transactions id. So it is obvious that these IOU tokens real.

And now according to Jani's post, everyone can move their ICO cabinet balance to Liqui ICO cabinet balance. After we see this happened - we credited your Liqui exchange account with equal amount of ICN. You can sell them and withdraw btc immediately or wait until network will launch and withdraw ICN.

P.S. Please lets discuss this option here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1636917.100, avoiding clutter up this thread.

why don't you share this info?
Quote
1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders


You talk about something you know ... I personally bought and sold it from the beginning Liqui without any problem. I have some coins alí and remove four btc without any problem, so shut up loudmouth.



good for you. It still doesn't prove that you are Liqui shill or that they don't need to provide that information, since the entire concept of IOUs is based on TRUST..
Ans they were extremely chatty around here, but somehow failed to respond to that simple request..
But maybe it is just me.. You are free to donate your BTC anyplace you like


You know someone who has lost their money in Liqui? Yourself to Liqui operated in the platform and lost its btc for fraud? You did an analysis of the platform to defame that liqui is a scam? If you have evidence that it is a scam Liqui his words are the scam so you better shut up and respect a little please.

I never said that people lost their money, but that people MAY (you know the difference, right?). For me it is not legit as long as they don't provide the above proofs. The fact that it has been asked more than once, and still some "happy customers" keep posting here just makes me feel more confident about my posts.
If you are new, small exchange that is looking to make it, there is a way to start, especially when you deal with IOU tokens. Sending out people to write posts here is not the right way to start.
Or perhaps you think that what I asked for is too much to ask from 4 guys new exchange that is selling promises for tokens?

Hi, Daparski. We just do not understand what are you want to figure out. We invest BTC in ICO Iconomi (providing Txid, you saw this post). You can't calculate by yourself final amount of ICN we have? Thats very simple.


Again special for you - our customers investments to ICO Iconomi is cryptographically verified, all info is open for everyone. Instead of make your own research and receive all answers on your questions, you ask again and again simple questions. It is look like usual trolling, sorry. (that why we dont respond to you).

I find it neither simple, nor trustworthy. You should have a VISIBLE and public proof of your FINAL ICN tokens amount. The only time you sent a screenshot it was ESTIMATED amount. So if everybody can see the TX id, why did you shared that info? Why not the final amount?
More important, at all time you need to provide proof that you have less than that final ICN amount locked in orders. If it does not make sense to you, or asking about that makes you feel like trolling - well, let's agree to disagree.
Good luck with that customer-oriented approach
sr. member
Activity: 304
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October 17, 2016, 06:58:52 AM
I will quote all of you "heroes" after this thing hits the first exchanger (hopefully this year). There is no reason why this should be five times higher than the ICO price is. If you want more than this, you need to HODL this for more than a year.

Why not!? I think Yes!
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
October 17, 2016, 08:34:07 AM

Quote
OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)

It works like this:
- you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option.

Then both mail me to this email with ":  ([email protected]) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.)
- seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email)
- seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address
- which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons)

I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then:
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address
- within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm
- after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received
--
Jani Valjavec
Co-founder & CTO

Hello to all.

If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.

So how can we make sure that IOU ICN is the real iconomi? Can we Make sure that we can get our withdrawals if we would get it? This thing is mostly i want to ask with you since you starting the IOU first and surely many people would get doubts for this announcement but anyways its a good move for your site since you can gather people to try do trades in your site..

We answer already numerous times. Again - we invest customers funds to ICO Iconomi, we provide all transactions id. So it is obvious that these IOU tokens real.

And now according to Jani's post, everyone can move their ICO cabinet balance to Liqui ICO cabinet balance. After we see this happened - we credited your Liqui exchange account with equal amount of ICN. You can sell them and withdraw btc immediately or wait until network will launch and withdraw ICN.

P.S. Please lets discuss this option here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1636917.100, avoiding clutter up this thread.

why don't you share this info?
Quote
1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders


You talk about something you know ... I personally bought and sold it from the beginning Liqui without any problem. I have some coins alí and remove four btc without any problem, so shut up loudmouth.



good for you. It still doesn't prove that you are Liqui shill or that they don't need to provide that information, since the entire concept of IOUs is based on TRUST..
Ans they were extremely chatty around here, but somehow failed to respond to that simple request..
But maybe it is just me.. You are free to donate your BTC anyplace you like


You know someone who has lost their money in Liqui? Yourself to Liqui operated in the platform and lost its btc for fraud? You did an analysis of the platform to defame that liqui is a scam? If you have evidence that it is a scam Liqui his words are the scam so you better shut up and respect a little please.

I never said that people lost their money, but that people MAY (you know the difference, right?). For me it is not legit as long as they don't provide the above proofs. The fact that it has been asked more than once, and still some "happy customers" keep posting here just makes me feel more confident about my posts.
If you are new, small exchange that is looking to make it, there is a way to start, especially when you deal with IOU tokens. Sending out people to write posts here is not the right way to start.
Or perhaps you think that what I asked for is too much to ask from 4 guys new exchange that is selling promises for tokens?

Hi, Daparski. We just do not understand what are you want to figure out. We invest BTC in ICO Iconomi (providing Txid, you saw this post). You can't calculate by yourself final amount of ICN we have? Thats very simple.


Again special for you - our customers investments to ICO Iconomi is cryptographically verified, all info is open for everyone. Instead of make your own research and receive all answers on your questions, you ask again and again simple questions. It is look like usual trolling, sorry. (that why we dont respond to you).

Why would he need to calculate that? You should have full control and awareness of how many ICN you got and should be able to show that, "that is very simple".

In the end, it is you who wants to gain traders trust, telling someone he should start calculating the amount you got and that you refuse to show the asked stuff doesn't make you look trustworthy at all.
hero member
Activity: 490
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October 17, 2016, 08:31:00 AM

Quote
OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)

It works like this:
- you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option.

Then both mail me to this email with ":  ([email protected]) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.)
- seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email)
- seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address
- which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons)

I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then:
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address
- within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm
- after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received
--
Jani Valjavec
Co-founder & CTO

Hello to all.

If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.

So how can we make sure that IOU ICN is the real iconomi? Can we Make sure that we can get our withdrawals if we would get it? This thing is mostly i want to ask with you since you starting the IOU first and surely many people would get doubts for this announcement but anyways its a good move for your site since you can gather people to try do trades in your site..

We answer already numerous times. Again - we invest customers funds to ICO Iconomi, we provide all transactions id. So it is obvious that these IOU tokens real.

And now according to Jani's post, everyone can move their ICO cabinet balance to Liqui ICO cabinet balance. After we see this happened - we credited your Liqui exchange account with equal amount of ICN. You can sell them and withdraw btc immediately or wait until network will launch and withdraw ICN.

P.S. Please lets discuss this option here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1636917.100, avoiding clutter up this thread.

why don't you share this info?
Quote
1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders


You talk about something you know ... I personally bought and sold it from the beginning Liqui without any problem. I have some coins alí and remove four btc without any problem, so shut up loudmouth.



good for you. It still doesn't prove that you are Liqui shill or that they don't need to provide that information, since the entire concept of IOUs is based on TRUST..
Ans they were extremely chatty around here, but somehow failed to respond to that simple request..
But maybe it is just me.. You are free to donate your BTC anyplace you like


You know someone who has lost their money in Liqui? Yourself to Liqui operated in the platform and lost its btc for fraud? You did an analysis of the platform to defame that liqui is a scam? If you have evidence that it is a scam Liqui his words are the scam so you better shut up and respect a little please.

I never said that people lost their money, but that people MAY (you know the difference, right?). For me it is not legit as long as they don't provide the above proofs. The fact that it has been asked more than once, and still some "happy customers" keep posting here just makes me feel more confident about my posts.
If you are new, small exchange that is looking to make it, there is a way to start, especially when you deal with IOU tokens. Sending out people to write posts here is not the right way to start.
Or perhaps you think that what I asked for is too much to ask from 4 guys new exchange that is selling promises for tokens?

Hi, Daparski. We just do not understand what are you want to figure out. We invest BTC in ICO Iconomi (providing Txid, you saw this post). You can't calculate by yourself final amount of ICN we have? Thats very simple.


Again special for you - our customers investments to ICO Iconomi is cryptographically verified, all info is open for everyone. Instead of make your own research and receive all answers on your questions, you ask again and again simple questions. It is look like usual trolling, sorry. (that why we dont respond to you).
full member
Activity: 217
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October 17, 2016, 08:29:47 AM

Quote
OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)

It works like this:
- you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option.

Then both mail me to this email with ":  ([email protected]) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.)
- seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email)
- seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address
- which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons)

I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then:
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address
- within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm
- after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received
--
Jani Valjavec
Co-founder & CTO

Hello to all.

If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.

So how can we make sure that IOU ICN is the real iconomi? Can we Make sure that we can get our withdrawals if we would get it? This thing is mostly i want to ask with you since you starting the IOU first and surely many people would get doubts for this announcement but anyways its a good move for your site since you can gather people to try do trades in your site..

We answer already numerous times. Again - we invest customers funds to ICO Iconomi, we provide all transactions id. So it is obvious that these IOU tokens real.

And now according to Jani's post, everyone can move their ICO cabinet balance to Liqui ICO cabinet balance. After we see this happened - we credited your Liqui exchange account with equal amount of ICN. You can sell them and withdraw btc immediately or wait until network will launch and withdraw ICN.

P.S. Please lets discuss this option here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1636917.100, avoiding clutter up this thread.

why don't you share this info?
Quote
1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders


You talk about something you know ... I personally bought and sold it from the beginning Liqui without any problem. I have some coins alí and remove four btc without any problem, so shut up loudmouth.



good for you. It still doesn't prove that you are Liqui shill or that they don't need to provide that information, since the entire concept of IOUs is based on TRUST..
Ans they were extremely chatty around here, but somehow failed to respond to that simple request..
But maybe it is just me.. You are free to donate your BTC anyplace you like


You know someone who has lost their money in Liqui? Yourself to Liqui operated in the platform and lost its btc for fraud? You did an analysis of the platform to defame that liqui is a scam? If you have evidence that it is a scam Liqui his words are the scam so you better shut up and respect a little please.

I never said that people lost their money, but that people MAY (you know the difference, right?). For me it is not legit as long as they don't provide the above proofs. The fact that it has been asked more than once, and still some "happy customers" keep posting here just makes me feel more confident about my posts.
If you are new, small exchange that is looking to make it, there is a way to start, especially when you deal with IOU tokens. Sending out people to write posts here is not the right way to start.
Or perhaps you think that what I asked for is too much to ask from 4 guys new exchange that is selling promises for tokens?

I just told him to respect others to my included because I will not consent to badmouth a platform that I if I trading to speak the truth here I know. His words have no credibility or transparency. So do not say you can swim if I do not throw water.
sr. member
Activity: 504
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October 17, 2016, 08:28:51 AM

It is very easy (already posted it here). If you, or anyone else considers buying IUO tokens, the very least that needs to be verified is:
1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders


You want a screenshot as a proof? Yeah, Photoshop-Phillip will do this for you, that's for sure.
common, the screenshot will need to be validated by Iconomi team.. That is basic..
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October 17, 2016, 08:26:39 AM
Now all soft hands will drop your real ICN in liqui. Wait a dump and buy cheap IOU from newbies.

Do this guys
newbie
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October 17, 2016, 08:22:46 AM

It is very easy (already posted it here). If you, or anyone else considers buying IUO tokens, the very least that needs to be verified is:
1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders


You want a screenshot as a proof? Yeah, Photoshop-Phillip will do this for you, that's for sure.
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October 17, 2016, 08:17:52 AM

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OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)

It works like this:
- you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option.

Then both mail me to this email with ":  ([email protected]) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.)
- seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email)
- seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address
- which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons)

I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then:
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address
- within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm
- after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received
--
Jani Valjavec
Co-founder & CTO

Hello to all.

If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.

So how can we make sure that IOU ICN is the real iconomi? Can we Make sure that we can get our withdrawals if we would get it? This thing is mostly i want to ask with you since you starting the IOU first and surely many people would get doubts for this announcement but anyways its a good move for your site since you can gather people to try do trades in your site..

We answer already numerous times. Again - we invest customers funds to ICO Iconomi, we provide all transactions id. So it is obvious that these IOU tokens real.

And now according to Jani's post, everyone can move their ICO cabinet balance to Liqui ICO cabinet balance. After we see this happened - we credited your Liqui exchange account with equal amount of ICN. You can sell them and withdraw btc immediately or wait until network will launch and withdraw ICN.

P.S. Please lets discuss this option here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1636917.100, avoiding clutter up this thread.

why don't you share this info?
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1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders


You talk about something you know ... I personally bought and sold it from the beginning Liqui without any problem. I have some coins alí and remove four btc without any problem, so shut up loudmouth.



good for you. It still doesn't prove that you are Liqui shill or that they don't need to provide that information, since the entire concept of IOUs is based on TRUST..
Ans they were extremely chatty around here, but somehow failed to respond to that simple request..
But maybe it is just me.. You are free to donate your BTC anyplace you like


You know someone who has lost their money in Liqui? Yourself to Liqui operated in the platform and lost its btc for fraud? You did an analysis of the platform to defame that liqui is a scam? If you have evidence that it is a scam Liqui his words are the scam so you better shut up and respect a little please.

I never said that people lost their money, but that people MAY (you know the difference, right?). For me it is not legit as long as they don't provide the above proofs. The fact that it has been asked more than once, and still some "happy customers" keep posting here just makes me feel more confident about my posts.
If you are new, small exchange that is looking to make it, there is a way to start, especially when you deal with IOU tokens. Sending out people to write posts here is not the right way to start.
Or perhaps you think that what I asked for is too much to ask from 4 guys new exchange that is selling promises for tokens?
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October 17, 2016, 08:16:07 AM
don't trade your ICN token for IOU in liqui. it is very cheap price, just wait for the main net release so that you can have more profit, A friendly advice, but if you really badly needed cash, so go for it because it is authorized already by the devs
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October 17, 2016, 08:03:39 AM

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OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)

It works like this:
- you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option.

Then both mail me to this email with ":  ([email protected]) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.)
- seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email)
- seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address
- which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons)

I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then:
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address
- within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm
- after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received
--
Jani Valjavec
Co-founder & CTO

Hello to all.

If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.

So how can we make sure that IOU ICN is the real iconomi? Can we Make sure that we can get our withdrawals if we would get it? This thing is mostly i want to ask with you since you starting the IOU first and surely many people would get doubts for this announcement but anyways its a good move for your site since you can gather people to try do trades in your site..

We answer already numerous times. Again - we invest customers funds to ICO Iconomi, we provide all transactions id. So it is obvious that these IOU tokens real.

And now according to Jani's post, everyone can move their ICO cabinet balance to Liqui ICO cabinet balance. After we see this happened - we credited your Liqui exchange account with equal amount of ICN. You can sell them and withdraw btc immediately or wait until network will launch and withdraw ICN.

P.S. Please lets discuss this option here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1636917.100, avoiding clutter up this thread.

why don't you share this info?
Quote
1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders


You talk about something you know ... I personally bought and sold it from the beginning Liqui without any problem. I have some coins alí and remove four btc without any problem, so shut up loudmouth.



good for you. It still doesn't prove that you are Liqui shill or that they don't need to provide that information, since the entire concept of IOUs is based on TRUST..
Ans they were extremely chatty around here, but somehow failed to respond to that simple request..
But maybe it is just me.. You are free to donate your BTC anyplace you like


You know someone who has lost their money in Liqui? Yourself to Liqui operated in the platform and lost its btc for fraud? You did an analysis of the platform to defame that liqui is a scam? If you have evidence that it is a scam Liqui his words are the scam so you better shut up and respect a little please.
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