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October 12, 2016, 12:35:18 PM
In that case, turn 2FA on. Leave them on ico.iconomi.net and when we unlock the contract transfer them anywhere you want without buying any extra ETH to pay for gas cost. However, keep in mind. We'll charge 1 ICN for sending ICNs out of ico.iconomi.net
So, your website will operate as a wallet. If the ICN is kept on the website, then ETH dividends will also be added there? And, would we be able to withdraw ETH from the website?
Similarly, if we want to withdraw ICN from exchanges back to our iconomi account, that would also be possible right?

It will operate as wallet as well.

Ico website won't support eth. But we'll migrate ico part into main one soon. Before first dividends. There everything will be supported.

Godspeed  Wink
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October 12, 2016, 12:28:20 PM
In that case, turn 2FA on. Leave them on ico.iconomi.net and when we unlock the contract transfer them anywhere you want without buying any extra ETH to pay for gas cost. However, keep in mind. We'll charge 1 ICN for sending ICNs out of ico.iconomi.net
So, your website will operate as a wallet. If the ICN is kept on the website, then ETH dividends will also be added there? And, would we be able to withdraw ETH from the website?
Similarly, if we want to withdraw ICN from exchanges back to our iconomi account, that would also be possible right?

It will operate as wallet as well.

Ico website won't support eth. But we'll migrate ico part into main one soon. Before first dividends. There everything will be supported.
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October 12, 2016, 12:25:26 PM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.

Please don't make any hasty decisions just because some investors (and bounty hunters) are impatient.  Your team seems to be handling the situation well, and you can't be blamed for someone causing mischief on the ethereum network.  The ethereum devs are top-notch and will get that sorted.  Speaking as someone who invested a generous sum, I urge you: don't be allowed to feel rushed.  I'd rather wait some time if it means the launch goes smoothly.
+1
Feeling exactly the same. To me it looks like most rushers are either bounty crybabies or small investors that just want to "trade" their tokens.
They should not influence any technical decisions  

I can hear you all.

First plan. Contract with dummy distribution for us to deploy and for you to check if you can access with your private keys first.
ICONOMI can you officially say something about myetherwallet? can we use that for withdraw from our ICO account?We want some official news about myetherwallet,please.

As someone suggested just before we'll put step by step instructions with screenshots for myetherwallet.

U'll follow those instructions and use contract with fictional values to check if all is working OK for you that way.
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October 12, 2016, 12:23:49 PM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.

Please don't make any hasty decisions just because some investors (and bounty hunters) are impatient.  Your team seems to be handling the situation well, and you can't be blamed for someone causing mischief on the ethereum network.  The ethereum devs are top-notch and will get that sorted.  Speaking as someone who invested a generous sum, I urge you: don't be allowed to feel rushed.  I'd rather wait some time if it means the launch goes smoothly.
+1
Feeling exactly the same. To me it looks like most rushers are either bounty crybabies or small investors that just want to "trade" their tokens.
They should not influence any technical decisions 

I can hear you all.

First plan. Contract with dummy distribution for us to deploy and for you to check if you can access with your private keys first.
ICONOMI can you officially say something about myetherwallet? can we use that for withdraw from our ICO account?We want some official news about myetherwallet,please.

Easy, you can use any wallet, unless you have the private key, so myetherwallet is ok, correct me if i am wrong, OP
legendary
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October 12, 2016, 12:22:39 PM
In that case, turn 2FA on. Leave them on ico.iconomi.net and when we unlock the contract transfer them anywhere you want without buying any extra ETH to pay for gas cost. However, keep in mind. We'll charge 1 ICN for sending ICNs out of ico.iconomi.net
So, your website will operate as a wallet. If the ICN is kept on the website, then ETH dividends will also be added there? And, would we be able to withdraw ETH from the website?
Similarly, if we want to withdraw ICN from exchanges back to our iconomi account, that would also be possible right?
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October 12, 2016, 12:21:27 PM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.

Please don't make any hasty decisions just because some investors (and bounty hunters) are impatient.  Your team seems to be handling the situation well, and you can't be blamed for someone causing mischief on the ethereum network.  The ethereum devs are top-notch and will get that sorted.  Speaking as someone who invested a generous sum, I urge you: don't be allowed to feel rushed.  I'd rather wait some time if it means the launch goes smoothly.
+1
Feeling exactly the same. To me it looks like most rushers are either bounty crybabies or small investors that just want to "trade" their tokens.
They should not influence any technical decisions 

I can hear you all.

First plan. Contract with dummy distribution for us to deploy and for you to check if you can access with your private keys first.
ICONOMI can you officially say something about myetherwallet? can we use that for withdraw from our ICO account?We want some official news about myetherwallet,please.
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October 12, 2016, 12:18:01 PM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.

Please don't make any hasty decisions just because some investors (and bounty hunters) are impatient.  Your team seems to be handling the situation well, and you can't be blamed for someone causing mischief on the ethereum network.  The ethereum devs are top-notch and will get that sorted.  Speaking as someone who invested a generous sum, I urge you: don't be allowed to feel rushed.  I'd rather wait some time if it means the launch goes smoothly.
+1
Feeling exactly the same. To me it looks like most rushers are either bounty crybabies or small investors that just want to "trade" their tokens.
They should not influence any technical decisions 

I can hear you all.

First plan. Contract with dummy distribution for us to deploy and for you to check if you can access with your private keys first.
sr. member
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October 12, 2016, 12:17:06 PM
@Jani, and the rest of the ICONOMI team:

Congratulations on a job well done getting us to the launch pad.  Now, to use a traditional astronaut phrase, "Let's light this candle!"

Hey, can you please do a Google spreadsheet showing the "genesis block" to show how much ICN went into each of the 3508 user accounts?  Distribution statistics are important to see and consider...

Thx for nice words!

Sure.
Here is genesis block spreadsheet for 85m ICN tokens.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FztYXiSJy5Ps2xc2nF4D8SHmVEimeFpAzeCfXkptQ00/edit?usp=sharing
ICN from bounties isn't included in this sheet if I'm not wrong.

Yes, it is 85m part, only for ico incestors, bounty is another 2m part, so bounty list is not here.
legendary
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October 12, 2016, 12:14:14 PM
@Jani, and the rest of the ICONOMI team:

Congratulations on a job well done getting us to the launch pad.  Now, to use a traditional astronaut phrase, "Let's light this candle!"

Hey, can you please do a Google spreadsheet showing the "genesis block" to show how much ICN went into each of the 3508 user accounts?  Distribution statistics are important to see and consider...

Thx for nice words!

Sure.
Here is genesis block spreadsheet for 85m ICN tokens.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FztYXiSJy5Ps2xc2nF4D8SHmVEimeFpAzeCfXkptQ00/edit?usp=sharing
ICN from bounties isn't included in this sheet if I'm not wrong.
sr. member
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October 12, 2016, 12:13:59 PM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.

Please don't make any hasty decisions just because some investors (and bounty hunters) are impatient.  Your team seems to be handling the situation well, and you can't be blamed for someone causing mischief on the ethereum network.  The ethereum devs are top-notch and will get that sorted.  Speaking as someone who invested a generous sum, I urge you: don't be allowed to feel rushed.  I'd rather wait some time if it means the launch goes smoothly.
+1
Feeling exactly the same. To me it looks like most rushers are either bounty crybabies or small investors that just want to "trade" their tokens.
They should not influence any technical decisions 
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October 12, 2016, 11:56:49 AM


you should fix that...
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October 12, 2016, 11:56:27 AM

No problem ! Wink
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October 12, 2016, 11:54:39 AM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.

great

I see ur active. Single word as an output, but OK. Does that make sense to you? Or would u suggest anything else?

I think that is a good idea: "great" in one world Smiley


Hahaha good one!

Thx for feedback.
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October 12, 2016, 11:53:50 AM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.

Team, what if we don't want to withdraw to a certain wallet (I don't trust myetherwallet due to claims at reddit & no space for mist) and keep the balance until it launches on an exchange. Isn't it possible? I seriously don't want to buy additional ether so I can send my coins to an exchange. If this is a must can someone inform me how much ether I would need for a single transaction.

In that case, turn 2FA on. Leave them on ico.iconomi.net and when we unlock the contract transfer them anywhere you want without buying any extra ETH to pay for gas cost. However, keep in mind. We'll charge 1 ICN for sending ICNs out of ico.iconomi.net
legendary
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October 12, 2016, 11:53:23 AM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.

Team, what if we don't want to withdraw to a certain wallet (I don't trust myetherwallet due to claims at reddit & no space for mist) and keep the balance until it launches on an exchange. Isn't it possible? I seriously don't want to buy additional ether so I can send my coins to an exchange. If this is a must can someone inform me how much ether I would need for a single transaction.

why don't you just keep them at iconomi? it's no different to an exchange
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October 12, 2016, 11:52:24 AM
From ICONOMI delay blog post on medium:

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As a substantial number of ICONOMI ICO investors intend to move ICN tokens to exchanges, we do not want to launch into an environment where investors might have to wait an excessive period of time to access ICN tokens; furthermore, this might also hinder the listing of ICN tokens at exchanges.

This is a no sense, first do the genesis then, also after month you can  hit the exchange. Like a lot of project have done in the past years.


Devs are trolling us or are they so unpreparated?

No one is trolling.

Factors you should consider:
- gas/network... least of a problem, but to consider
- unsynced wallets of some users. problem to a certain degree. i have synced one, you might have it too. we had quite some support email with that issue. there are also few posts here regarding that. all users should have same starting position (or close to all)
- people inputting addresses of exchanges / jaxx wallets / who knows what else (see in this thread only). this is worrisome because it can mean that someone might burn ICN completely. and when not burned there will be tons of questions how to get ICNs back.

The last one is where we got caught unprepared. Instructing users how to prepare for ICN.



You should had posted which wallet you recommend that people should use with the pictures you had there on the blog in the first place and something that confirms that you did set it up correctly. If that was done days ago, there would had been less problems.

And the fact that there are so many people with problems, it probably means that alot of people didnt get the message properly or that the guide isn't good enough.

What is wrong with people withdrawing to exchanges? As long as the exchange added Iconomi, it shouldn't be a problem, or should it? Just like withdrawing rep or any other ethereum based coin to polo should be fine as far as I'm concerned. Myetherwallet or mist will probably provide a same type of address anyway. Can you please clarify this?

The problem is no exchange confirmed adding ICN yet. Therefore, there is no 'ICN deposit option' on exchanges yet. So what kind of exchange adresses do you think those users put in their ICN account  ?? Eth ones  ? Btc ones  ?  Those tokens would just end up lost forever..
I wouldn't mind decreasing the supply already but I think those investors would.  Grin

Exchanges will open ICN deposit addresses not more than 24h before launch. U'll be then able to withdraw ICN directly to exchanges once we unlock the contract.
legendary
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October 12, 2016, 11:49:47 AM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.

Team, what if we don't want to withdraw to a certain wallet (I don't trust myetherwallet due to claims at reddit & no space for mist) and keep the balance until it launches on an exchange. Isn't it possible? I seriously don't want to buy additional ether so I can send my coins to an exchange. If this is a must can someone inform me how much ether I would need for a single transaction.
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October 12, 2016, 11:47:27 AM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.

Yay.
This way sounds great !

We all hope ICN will officially launch today, don't let us down, gogogo.
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October 12, 2016, 11:46:27 AM
So we are delaying distribution because it might be difficult for some people to send tokens to an exchange as fast as possible?

It is a problem. But as I said before "least of a problem, but to consider".

So. You release smart contract tomorrow ?

Most likely today. With dummy distribution in order for anyone who entered their own address can check if he can access it. I can't think of any better way right now to do that.

great

I see ur active. Single word as an output, but OK. Does that make sense to you? Or would u suggest anything else?

I think that is a good idea: "great" in one world Smiley
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