Topic: [ANN - INFO] Project Icarus: The forum redemption story 🔐 - page 3. (Read 3753 times)

Well damn that sucks but thanks for the info. Another collectible quickly made uncollectible.

these cards will only be distributed by UniJoin through various free raffles and there will only be 20 of them - no more and no less.
we produced the cards on UniJoin's initiative and they now belong to UniJoin as well.
by this UniJoin and of course we from Icarus try to make more new users from the forum aware of these two brands.

will there be a way to buy them directly here? I am still very much trying to understand these cards but they are also difficult to know what or how many are of each type or will be of each type and then all the ones that are not done via the collectibles area.

there is something new from Icarus again. this time in cooperation with UniJoin👉https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62780274

since i myself created the said sales thread, i would also like to address the community again and apologize for the ambiguities🙏
we want to be as transparent as possible to all of you and this also applies to the editions and the description of our offered editions.
as Xprim777 described it, that was and is our plan. the remaining 6 sticker editions will be offered for sale as loadable cards in the near future.

@tweetious thank you for your honest feedback and we are also happy that you like the cards very much

Dear tweetious, Mopar, dear customers

Thank you for your comment.
We apologize for the misunderstanding, it is indeed not clear enough in our sale thread : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sale-icarus-sticker-edition-cards-5458983
The "Sticker" edition we recently launched includes a total of 10 designs.
For this first batch, we've released the first 4 designs, on a white card basis.
For each design of these white cards, the mintage is 25, no more cards will be produced.

In addition to this, we thought the community would appreciate finding their favorite design on another card format, so we created 21 special cards for each design, 3 gold, 7 silver and 11 copper.
We really should have mentioned this in the sale thread.

We're sorry we didn't give more consideration to the fact that some of you are very attached to their favorite serial number, and that it may not be possible for you to get a special card with the number you want.

Thank you for your support and interest in our products.

agreed with tweetious - as there are also now only 3 golds of each? or something like that. also not possible to get our regular numbers in the limited gold/silver/copper ones as well.

and hmm where was the white card sold at? I dont recall that one. I remember ordering/paying for the sticker ones but do not recall seeing a white card.

The cards have arrived, looks great, thanks !!!

I didn't want to post the following in either your "white cards" sale topic or the "gold/silver/copper" raffle topic -avoid interfering with your future sales & raffle results-.

The following came into my mind immediately after seeing the "gold/silver/copper" raffle topic.
I wanted to provide some constructive feedback (that's not criticism) in a friendly way and hear your opinion (+ the opinion of the community) on the subject.


At the sale topic of the "Icarus Sticker Edition Cards" it is clearly mentioned that "each card design is part of a limited series, with only 25 editions available for each design (1st batch). this limited run amplifies your card's exclusivity".

When I placed an order for a set of cards, I had the impression that each design will be limited to 25 cards in total. There is NOWHERE being mentioned that the same design will be printed on different colour cards in the future. I thought that the "with only 25 editions available for each design" statement was clear enough. I understand that Yogg used to print some designs in gold/silver/copper cards, HOWEVER he was crystal clear and transparent from the begging about the mintage of each design & the total mintage of the different colour cards.

If I (and maybe others here) knew in advance that more cards -in different colours- of the EXACT same design- will be released in the future, I might have hold back on getting the white edition and gone "all in" in -let's say- the gold variation raffle.

Since this is not a loaded card, you can clearly understand that it is 100% collectible item. If it was loaded, some people might have bought it for usage, such as using it as a cold storage solution or gifted it to friends -an easy way to hand off btc in a form of a card- etc. But for this particular release, I understand that it is a purely collectible item.

As a collectible item, it has also a collectible aftersales/secondary market value. By suddenly increasing its mintage number without any prior notifications  (the printer goes brrrr), usually its collectible value decreases. Furthermore, by increasing the mintage numbers -printing the exact same design in different colour cards-, the edition that is getting the most "hit" in valuation is usually the base/normal editions (ie white cards).

Just imagine an artist offering a limited number of exclusive numbered prints, and after those getting sold out, to offer the exact same design print in a different colour paper....

All I am saying is that in terms of transparency and crystal clearness -for a collectible numbered item-,  I would have wanted to know in advance your future plans to keep printing the same design, in different colour cards.

To provide an example: in case your raffle do extremely well, nothing is stopping you from printing the same designs in orange colour cards, followed by a "glowing in the dark" cards and then doing the rest of the rainbow colours cards (I am totally joking here  , LOL, I know that you will not do this, but you are probably getting what I am saying)

If you had added a general statement in your white cards sale topic, something like "this is your only chance of getting this design at a fixed price. A raffle will follow for gold/silver & copper colour cards", then prolly I wouldn't have said anything so far. You could have either made a generic statement (as above) or clearly and transparently stated -by mentioning mintage numbers- your future plans of using the same design in different colour cards.

Please do not take me wrong here.. I am not just a random dude that is trying to "attack you". I was the first that placed an order for a white card set & also -regardless of my above thoughts - the first one that placed a bid in the raffle. I received the white cards today and look great & I am still looking forward to winning some of the raffle lots. Tl;dr: I want the Icarus project to do well/succeed in the future...

BTW, what does the "1st batch" means? By indicating "with only 25 editions available for each design (1st batch)" without further elaborating on the "1st batch" and afterward releasing 84 moar cards -with the exact same design- into circulation, looks like those "*" that corporations are putting next to a sentence, and re-directing you to 10 pages of terms & conditions (trying to hide something from you)

just my 2 sats


Always friendly,
tweetious

congratulations on the wonderful release of Icarus has tremendous potential.
Also I would like to know if the future sees the creation of something like the nLockTime Cryptobonds, they were one of the preferred cards, in a certain way it gives a bit of security knowing that the coins are blocked for a certain time.

our first sales thread has been online for almost 3 hours now🥳🥳
definitely worth a look

[SALE] Icarus Sticker Edition Cards 🔐

this
maybe there will be a loadable version of this edition at some point in the future...

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as i wrote earlier, you have to be patient and wait for the official sale thread
what i can say that the cards are already ready and are with me on the desk

Icarus will also offer individual designs for the 'BTC buyer funded' cards for you and there will also be the history edition again, which is loved by everyone here. in addition to that there will also be various new editions - let yourself be surprised.
the second half of the year will be ours🥳

 Looks like they are coming along very well....designs look great as well.

  Can we get a glimpse of what the back looks like or is that still in developement?

  Keep up the good work!

awesome - do they have spots for one to be added? like a DIY? or purely just a card with designs/art on it?

i wanted to share with you our next tweet
as you can see and read, Icarus is already quite far and you all can already experience and purchase the first edition this summer. this edition will be a pure plastic card (without hologram, without BTC addy) - with this we first want to slowly gain the trust of the old ck-customers. more info about this edition will come with the official sales thread


https://twitter.com/IcarusCards/status/1674763648831463425

to all those who have not yet received/read this message from me...
if you are in possession of a hat-avatar and are interested in a personal Icarus card, don't hesitate and write me a dm (best with a original link to your hat-avatar)

I personally don't understand you at all here.. Can you elaborate?

reminds me of a work I made a few years ago ....



Viz

we at Icarus will produce cards without any keys for the time being and offer them for sale as collector's items.
we are taking this step to gain the trust of the old ck-collectors and at the same time to heal the wounds (as good as possible) of all victims.
if everything goes as we have imagined, we will also produce Icarus Cards, on which the buyer can load/send any amount of Bitcoin on his own.

because of the domain i would like to talk to my team first and then i would contact you

If there’s a positive from this nightmare, it’s forced makers to rethink the landscape of trust to trust less wallets. I’m not sure they’ve announced it yet but there’s other coin makers working on the same thing.

Edit : just seeing this thread, cards look great

I am not up to speed with how many cards have been made but I want to be clear, would like one of each design and prefer #76 if possible.