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legendary
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The ION wallet is broken. Ionomy (formerly known as Team Paycoin) are looking into it. These are the people who say they will produce "one game per month". They can't even build a working wallet.
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The guys are in implementation mode and this thread could easily become a distraction
And that's why ionomy can't answer even the most basic questions about the investment they want people to make? You are being ridiculous. I will repeat some of those questions. Where are the ions you get with a "fully loaded" staker coming from? How do "electrified" ion stakers work exactly, or are they just fake "online stakers" in the same way HashStakers were (doing no real POS)? What addresses are the premined ions at and where exactly are the ions not sold in the ICO now? Where are the "burnt" paycoins (all of them)? How will ionomy get around the TOS of Appstore and Google Play store? If answering these questions is too "distracting" for the ion devs (formerly known as Team Paycoin), then this is not an investment anyone should make.
legendary
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Giphy and unicorns are more of a priority than transparency and answers. I'll give credit where credit is due however...they are good at excuses.
legendary
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Transparency is important but total transparency at this stage would be a fundamental mistake. Building on oOoO's example it would be like Microsoft telling Goggle that their next tablet will be powered by WiFi, gonna cost $5000 and this is the technology they've developed that is gonna reduce the price to $900. Apple then respond by buying the company that developed a key component stopping Microsoft & Google in their tracks. Microsoft do the work & Apple reap the rewards. Hopefully you get my point.


True... but microsoft have publicly listed info on their company name and registration. Ionomy says they are registered and trust us but don't show. You are stating transparency and total transparency incorrectly.

Transparency is honesty for a company operations.. trade secrets are the tech dev. You are taking it to extremes.
The problem with ionomy is that they take funds sell an ico and show no transparency on the supposed fund spending.

Tell me this how are they able to sell coins and stakers for btc past the ico? None sold ico coins were to be burned and not used correct? So how are they able to sell coins now? Wouldn't be that dev fund premine they aren't telling people how they are spending would it?

I thought that was for bounties etc? The selling of stakers now and coins doesn't have a number for how many are available in their supply. If you don't see a problem with this transparency then you are not thinking well on this investment.

And seriously? They are in full on implementation mode? I heard others say they can't answer questions because they are too busy coding... seems they have plenty of time to hang in slack and talk bs general chat... can't be that busy then so that comment is a cop out.
legendary
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Today a made a chunk of change on BTC, dunno bout you but I always look at things in a more strategic perspective when I've made some money  Grin


Oh wow. Hey retard, We all made money today on BTC. Why are you shilling for ion and now praising btc?  Roll Eyes

hero member
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WOW Been away for a bit and catching up, Lots of hate in this thread  Sad

For me oOoO you win comment of the day...

Hint : If an investment is sound and good then no amount of comments against it will stop it. Google, microsoft etc take bad press everyday. They still grow in share price.

This comment is 100% spot on. I tell you they are honorable business people/talented developers and you say liar they're scammers/crap coders and then the project fails.

It will be 

a) The ION team fail to deliver their vision of a gaming focused crypto infrastructure i.e. a broken wallet, broken coin, gimmicky platform, etc

b) Fail to leverage off the exponential growth in gaming

Transparency is important but total transparency at this stage would be a fundamental mistake. Building on oOoO's example it would be like Microsoft telling Goggle that their next tablet will be powered by WiFi, gonna cost $5000 and this is the technology they've developed that is gonna reduce the price to $900. Apple then respond by buying the company that developed a key component stopping Microsoft & Google in their tracks. Microsoft do the work & Apple reap the rewards. Hopefully you get my point.

For me this project has is just started success will be measured after Year 1 not week 1

Personally I'm glad ION aren't here as

a) you'd probably need a full time head to monitor & respond

b) The guys are in implementation mode and this thread could easily become a distraction

Today a made a chunk of change on BTC, dunno bout you but I always look at things in a more strategic perspective when I've made some money  Grin

Have a nice day.


 
legendary
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It is not funny when you shit on other people investment this is real money not your bitcoin. You talk bad things and scare peopel away from ion and will cost investors money. You think on the internet you are an anonymous you are not anonymous, and someone will find you then who is laughing. You will run away hide like those other stupid bitches run away when they phone number is posted. What are you afraid someone will call you ask why hate ion so much LOL. You can only talk shit on bitcointalk can;t talk shit when people call you or come to your house.

So even if its a scam people are bad for warning because being stupid and invested in a scam they are stopping you from profitting. So basically you are saying people shouldn't expose scams because the people invested in them need to pass their bad investment onto others?

So you are saying even though paycoin was a scam people shouldn't of said anything so their investors could make money? Idiot logic. Those exposing paycoin for what it was saved MANY from being pulled into a scam and thus saved money. You're a big boy... invest with confidence and don't come crying when it fails and looking for a fudder to blame for your fuck up.

You really are a moron.

Hint : If an investment is sound and good then no amount of comments against it will stop it. Google, microsoft etc take bad press everyday. They still grow in share price.

You are either incredibly nieve or a bad person in real life. I encourage you to lodge a lawsuit when you lose your money to this investment. Subpoena bitcointalk for ip addresses and then lodge a lawsuit for lost investment due to forum comments. You'll be laughed out of court... particularly if its judge judy.
legendary
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Adam did very good with ION POS only because he can control who gets it and who makes money.

Do you not see whats wrong with your comment?

Maybe Adam could agree with this comment or tell you how wrong you are or korvas could show you the error of your statement. You come here as an angry shill but you damage your beloved previous with stupid statements like that.
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Here is some interesting info on Madness. Account was sold on 4/24/2016 according to his trust:

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Shield 0: -0 / +0   2016-04-24   0.00000000   Reference   Alert !!!

Account sold, you are dealing with new owner
trade with caution, don't fall for high reputation

check reference link for more details

Oh look - Right when he bought the account the ION shilling started... Coincidence?  Roll Eyes

https://i.imgur.com/4GEXtD0.png


I remember this account sale. The seller posted very specific details so I tried to find out which account it was but then got distracted by something else. Apparently Shield had more patience. Busted.

http://archive.is/WNdyf#selection-8619.0-8623.19
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April 24, 2016, 04:31:55 PM - Madness - password changed

Only ever posted in the ION thread since then.
legendary
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Here is some interesting info on Madness. Account was sold on 4/24/2016 according to his trust:

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Shield 0: -0 / +0   2016-04-24   0.00000000   Reference   Alert !!!

Account sold, you are dealing with new owner
trade with caution, don't fall for high reputation

check reference link for more details

Oh look - Right when he bought the account the ION shilling started... Coincidence?  Roll Eyes

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Here is an interesting thought. You can pay with BTC and get a staker full of IONs. This is separate from the exchange. Where do those IONs come from? Can't be from the exchange because there rate and the volume doesn't match. They wouldn't be selling their premine, would they?


GAW HashStaker™ Reloaded.



staking is a term used by all pos coins. not just these two. who are you trying to fool ?

you are so desperate to draw links that what you says means nothing.

The link is the fact that ION online staking wallets are just as fake as HashStakers were. Or Hashlets. (In case you still haven't noticed: HashStakers didn't exist, they were pretty pictures on a website. Hashlets didn't exist either, they were pretty pictures on a website and customers were paid from the investments of earlier customers. https://www.sec.gov/news/pressrelease/2015-271.html )
Where does the extra staking power of ION stakers come from when you load them up with "electrons"? Where do the ION you get with a "fully loaded" ION staker come from? What addresses are the premined ION at and where are the ION not sold in the ICO?
I think it's very interesting that you, Madness, don't seem to care about answers from ionomy at all. I wonder why? Did you swap your XPY, hoping to become whole? Did you sink dollars into ION and are desperate for it to succeed? Or are you part of the scam?
legendary
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Oh here we go, the purchased hero account member shills start showing up now... This is like bitstone 2.0 now, awesome!  Roll Eyes
legendary
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staking is a term used by all pos coins. not just these two. who are you trying to fool ?

you are so desperate to draw links that what you says means nothing.

How many other coins have online "staking" wallets?

Hashstakers/stakers have nothing to do with POS, the payouts don't even match POS rewards. It's just a term deposit with interest. Calling it a "staker" and pretending it's an actual thing certainly evokes parallels, whether you like it or not.

There are coins trying to create real trustless pooled staking. Hint - it ain't ION.
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My goal is becaming a billionaire.
Here is an interesting thought. You can pay with BTC and get a staker full of IONs. This is separate from the exchange. Where do those IONs come from? Can't be from the exchange because there rate and the volume doesn't match. They wouldn't be selling their premine, would they?


GAW HashStaker™ Reloaded.



staking is a term used by all pos coins. not just these two. who are you trying to fool ?

you are so desperate to draw links that what you says means nothing.
legendary
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Here is an interesting thought. You can pay with BTC and get a staker full of IONs. This is separate from the exchange. Where do those IONs come from? Can't be from the exchange because there rate and the volume doesn't match. They wouldn't be selling their premine, would they?


GAW HashStaker™ Reloaded.


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Nope, we don't have to be. We're concerned BCT users about this project/coin. I like helping others avoid scams/coins like ION.
Your investment strategy and suggestions on crypto and stocks is a tragedy. Buy it and forget it. Yikes.

Are you investor? Why do you care how they do things if you trust them invest if you don't trust them don't invest. It's bullshit that you want them to do things in an certain way thats not how it works in business. You buy stock you let people do the jobs. What do you care about addresses you would just use it to make up more stupid questions, why this coin transfered here or this coin here. Good that the team doesnt post addresses less distraction and more time to do their work. You think they must answer your questions but thousands investors dont think so and you should leave it and go bust other scams.
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Are you investor? Why do you care how they do things if you trust them invest if you don't trust them don't invest. It's bullshit that you want them to do things in an certain way thats not how it works in business. You buy stock you let people do the jobs. What do you care about addresses you would just use it to make up more stupid questions, why this coin transfered here or this coin here. Good that the team doesnt post addresses less distraction and more time to do their work. You think they must answer your questions but thousands investors dont think so and you should leave it and go bust other scams.
Transparency is the most important thing here, especially in a premined cryptocurrency. If addresses of premine and addresses of ionomy stakers are hidden, the same thing that happened to Paycoin could occur with ION.
This is an open forum for Bitcoin and other cryptocurencies. I care enough about people for not wanting them to get fooled by fake companies that develop elaborate schemes to steal peoples bitcoins.
"Thousands of investors"? Is that the reason why ionomy's subreddit has less than 10 readers and ionomy's Facebook group less than 300 likes? Are the "thousands of investors" the reason why the only people in inonomy's Slack are ex-paycoiners and shills?
legendary
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You don't understand. None asked you to post shit about ION. This is not your coin not your investment why do you post shit. Do you post shit if someone invests in Apple stock? Team don't want answer stupid questions they want to work on games and coin let them work.
But you see, questions about an investment - before actually spending money on it - are not stupid. It's stupid of the ionomy team not to answer them. It's stupid to invest in ION with no answers being provided. The information we are asking for should have been on the ionomy website or in the whitepaper from day one of the ICO. The fact that there are no answers should be a big red flag.

Go to slack if you serious investor and ask Adam respecting questions don;t FUD and you will get answers.
Not true. Questions remained unanswered on Slack as well. But I will keep asking them, and so will others. Here are a few again:

How many masternodes does the ionomy team own?
How will ionomy work around Google's and Apple's rules prohibiting the use of third-party payment methods in mobile games?
Where exactly are the XPY that were supposed to be "burned"?
What will happen to the premined ION that the team controls?
What are the addresses of the premined ION coins, especially the ones that should have been sold in the ICO but weren't?
Where does the extra staking power come from when an electron electrifies a node?

ION FAQ: https://www.reddit.com/r/IONcoin/comments/4ku2da/ion_faq


Even if they pretend to answer it's still bullshit, like that company registration, or there was this one poster who said my math was wrong but then refused to correct it... here it is:

Your math is not entirely wrong but it needs some corrections, btw I do not think there will be many "team" nodes in the beginning, i.e. less than 100. The majority online now are customer nodes.

Please correct then.

"less than 100" still sounds like more than 0, otherwise you would have just said 0, right?

Correct.

Are you going to elaborate on the problem with my math?

I will do that later, I have a dinner now, Amsterdam timezone  Wink
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Are you investor? Why do you care how they do things if you trust them invest if you don't trust them don't invest. It's bullshit that you want them to do things in an certain way thats not how it works in business. You buy stock you let people do the jobs. What do you care about addresses you would just use it to make up more stupid questions, why this coin transfered here or this coin here. Good that the team doesnt post addresses less distraction and more time to do their work. You think they must answer your questions but thousands investors dont think so and you should leave it and go bust other scams.

You don't understand. None asked you to post shit about ION. This is not your coin not your investment why do you post shit. Do you post shit if someone invests in Apple stock? Team don't want answer stupid questions they want to work on games and coin let them work.
But you see, the questions are not stupid. It's stupid of the ionomy team not to answer them. The information we are asking for should have been on the ionomy website or in the whitepaper from day one of the ICO. The fact that there are no answers should be a big red flag.

Go to slack if you serious investor and ask Adam respecting questions don;t FUD and you will get answers.
Not true. Questions remained unanswered on Slack as well. But I will keep asking them, and so will others. Here are a few again: How many masternodes does the ionomy team own? How will ionomy work around Google's and Apple's rules prohibiting the use of third-party payment methods in mobile games? Where exactly are the XPY that were supposed to be "burned"? What will happen to the premined ION that the team controls? What are the addresses of the premined ION coins, especially the ones that should have been sold in the ICO but weren't? Where does the extra staking power come from when an electron electrifies a node?
legendary
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Why, oh why does all this doxxing bullshit from the iontards smell so much like GAW and Paycoin to me...


Yeah, there is a resemblance.
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