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Dear Friends from Komodo!

First of all, thank you very much for thinking of us and pointing out the problem. We have investigate the issue and our wallet is indeed somewhat affected. Let me clarify:

Watch-only addresses are properly separated both in wallet overview and in the transaction table. However, when opening the menu for receiving addresses via the application menu, watch-only addresses are listed as normal addresses, introducing the possibility of mistakenly interpreting a watch-only address as one of your own.

We are working on a fix, and will keep you up to date. Until we release a fix, the easiest way to circumvent this bug for all users is to always generate a new address for every payment you want to receive.

Stay tuned and thanks again!

Thank you for the feedback - happy to see you are on top of the situation. We aren't exactly sure how far-reaching the bug is, so we are reaching out to every project. Personally, I'm interested to see how your project has been developing - very impressive!

While I'm here, I'd like to add: IOP coin is available for atomic swap trading on Komodo Platform's BarterDEX! Right now! Mainnet! You can test it out if you'd like. Would a team member, perhaps someone from marketing like to test out an atomic swap through our GUI? We're trying to get some exposure, which could work out well for the both of us Grin Please DM me and I can connect you with the right people to set this up!
sr. member
Activity: 306
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Working for a better world
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***  ALERT * WATCHONLY-GUI BUG * ALERT ***
____________________________________________

Greetings, friends at Internet of People! As Komodo Platform has been working around the clock to fine-tune the multiple GUI's that are the face of our Agama multiwallet and BarterDEX atomic swap protocols, there have obviously been many bugs found and many debugged. However, one bug in particular was found not only in our Agama GUI wallet, but also in the zcash4mac GUI swing wallet. It is a simple bug, but it warrants your attention. This is a potential money cost bug.

Internet of People (IOP) - As a Bitcoin-protocol cryptocurrency, your GUI wallet(s) may be susceptible to this bug.

ISSUE: 'watchonly' addresses appearing as your own in GUI wallet; users could potentially send funds to the address, unaware it is not theirs or available for withdrawal.  You can import and it becomes a 'watchonly' address. The GUI will display the address as yours, add its funds to your balance, and accept deposits, but cannot be withdrawn. This could be a normal address, my address, a p2sh address, satoshi's address, etc. This can be confusing to an end-user and will lead to many headaches for the developer, as is always the case with misplaced funds.

FOUND: in Komodo Platform's Agama multiwallet (fixed) and zcash4mac GUI swing wallet (@jl777b: "newest QT wallet seems ok about watch only, but not sure of older and when it was fixed")

ex. @grewalsatinder found the bug in his zcash swing wallet:

Quote from: jl777B
"satinder used zcash4mac, ie. the zcash osx GUI, not ours... the assumption is no GUI out there properly handles watch only addresses, until proven that they do... agama also had this bug, which we found and fixed, so it seems a very common bug to have"

SOLUTION: For the 'watchonly' address or any address not yours, the value 'ismine' returns false. Any such address gets filtered out.

QUESTIONS:
  • How does your recommended GUI deal with watchonly addresses?
  • Does your GUI display watchonly addresses as different than actual addresses in the wallet?

We need to experiment a bit to see which approach gets a better response triggering the bug. People WILL lose money if they send funds to a watchonly address.

Quote from: jl777B
"the t3 addresses in the 'Own Addresses' column! and they absolutely cant be as they are p2sh addresses. it is clear proof that the bug is very real and anybody that understands a p2sh address will understand it cant be something in your wallet. it is usually a multisig address, so only if it is a 1of1 multisig (possible but very silly) can you have a p2sh address that is spendable, but the wallet wont even know it... normal addresses can also be watchonly, which makes this even worse. in that case it would appear in the list of addresses just like all the others. even if you are able to spot p2sh addresses visually, it wont be enough"

I've been tasked with spreading awareness and facilitating discussion of this bug, so please let me know if you have any questions. I'll get you some answers and we can minimize the impact. We wanted to reach out directly to the developers of the 60+ coins featured on Agama and BarterDEX as the bug may have a direct impact on you (via your own GUI wallet).

- Jay

Devs have now this message in his channel, i expect fast response... Thanks

Amon Engemann:
Dear Friends from Komodo!

First of all, thank you very much for thinking of us and pointing out the problem. We have investigate the issue and our wallet is indeed somewhat affected. Let me clarify:

Watch-only addresses are properly separated both in wallet overview and in the transaction table. However, when opening the menu for receiving addresses via the application menu, watch-only addresses are listed as normal addresses, introducing the possibility of mistakenly interpreting a watch-only address as one of your own.

We are working on a fix, and will keep you up to date. Until we release a fix, the easiest way to circumvent this bug for all users is to always generate a new address for every payment you want to receive.

Stay tuned and thanks again!
full member
Activity: 206
Merit: 106
Old Account was Sev0 (it was hacked)
Dear Friends from Komodo!

First of all, thank you very much for thinking of us and pointing out the problem. We have investigate the issue and our wallet is indeed somewhat affected. Let me clarify:

Watch-only addresses are properly separated both in wallet overview and in the transaction table. However, when opening the menu for receiving addresses via the application menu, watch-only addresses are listed as normal addresses, introducing the possibility of mistakenly interpreting a watch-only address as one of your own.

We are working on a fix, and will keep you up to date. Until we release a fix, the easiest way to circumvent this bug for all users is to always generate a new address for every payment you want to receive.

Stay tuned and thanks again!
sr. member
Activity: 306
Merit: 251
Working for a better world
_________________________________________________

***  ALERT * WATCHONLY-GUI BUG * ALERT ***
____________________________________________

Greetings, friends at Internet of People! As Komodo Platform has been working around the clock to fine-tune the multiple GUI's that are the face of our Agama multiwallet and BarterDEX atomic swap protocols, there have obviously been many bugs found and many debugged. However, one bug in particular was found not only in our Agama GUI wallet, but also in the zcash4mac GUI swing wallet. It is a simple bug, but it warrants your attention. This is a potential money cost bug.

Internet of People (IOP) - As a Bitcoin-protocol cryptocurrency, your GUI wallet(s) may be susceptible to this bug.

ISSUE: 'watchonly' addresses appearing as your own in GUI wallet; users could potentially send funds to the address, unaware it is not theirs or available for withdrawal.  You can import and it becomes a 'watchonly' address. The GUI will display the address as yours, add its funds to your balance, and accept deposits, but cannot be withdrawn. This could be a normal address, my address, a p2sh address, satoshi's address, etc. This can be confusing to an end-user and will lead to many headaches for the developer, as is always the case with misplaced funds.

FOUND: in Komodo Platform's Agama multiwallet (fixed) and zcash4mac GUI swing wallet (@jl777b: "newest QT wallet seems ok about watch only, but not sure of older and when it was fixed")

ex. @grewalsatinder found the bug in his zcash swing wallet:

Quote from: jl777B
"satinder used zcash4mac, ie. the zcash osx GUI, not ours... the assumption is no GUI out there properly handles watch only addresses, until proven that they do... agama also had this bug, which we found and fixed, so it seems a very common bug to have"

SOLUTION: For the 'watchonly' address or any address not yours, the value 'ismine' returns false. Any such address gets filtered out.

QUESTIONS:
  • How does your recommended GUI deal with watchonly addresses?
  • Does your GUI display watchonly addresses as different than actual addresses in the wallet?

We need to experiment a bit to see which approach gets a better response triggering the bug. People WILL lose money if they send funds to a watchonly address.

Quote from: jl777B
"the t3 addresses in the 'Own Addresses' column! and they absolutely cant be as they are p2sh addresses. it is clear proof that the bug is very real and anybody that understands a p2sh address will understand it cant be something in your wallet. it is usually a multisig address, so only if it is a 1of1 multisig (possible but very silly) can you have a p2sh address that is spendable, but the wallet wont even know it... normal addresses can also be watchonly, which makes this even worse. in that case it would appear in the list of addresses just like all the others. even if you are able to spot p2sh addresses visually, it wont be enough"

I've been tasked with spreading awareness and facilitating discussion of this bug, so please let me know if you have any questions. I'll get you some answers and we can minimize the impact. We wanted to reach out directly to the developers of the 60+ coins featured on Agama and BarterDEX as the bug may have a direct impact on you (via your own GUI wallet).

- Jay

Devs have now this message in his channel, i expect fast response... Thanks
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
_________________________________________________

***  ALERT * WATCHONLY-GUI BUG * ALERT ***
____________________________________________

Greetings, friends at Internet of People! As Komodo Platform has been working around the clock to fine-tune the multiple GUI's that are the face of our Agama multiwallet and BarterDEX atomic swap protocols, there have obviously been many bugs found and many debugged. However, one bug in particular was found not only in our Agama GUI wallet, but also in the zcash4mac GUI swing wallet. It is a simple bug, but it warrants your attention. This is a potential money cost bug.

Internet of People (IOP) - As a Bitcoin-protocol cryptocurrency, your GUI wallet(s) may be susceptible to this bug.

ISSUE: 'watchonly' addresses appearing as your own in GUI wallet; users could potentially send funds to the address, unaware it is not theirs or available for withdrawal.  You can import and it becomes a 'watchonly' address. The GUI will display the address as yours, add its funds to your balance, and accept deposits, but cannot be withdrawn. This could be a normal address, my address, a p2sh address, satoshi's address, etc. This can be confusing to an end-user and will lead to many headaches for the developer, as is always the case with misplaced funds.

FOUND: in Komodo Platform's Agama multiwallet (fixed) and zcash4mac GUI swing wallet (@jl777b: "newest QT wallet seems ok about watch only, but not sure of older and when it was fixed")

ex. @grewalsatinder found the bug in his zcash swing wallet: https://i.imgur.com/sVd0QTL.png

Quote from: jl777B
"satinder used zcash4mac, ie. the zcash osx GUI, not ours... the assumption is no GUI out there properly handles watch only addresses, until proven that they do... agama also had this bug, which we found and fixed, so it seems a very common bug to have"

SOLUTION: For the 'watchonly' address or any address not yours, the value 'ismine' returns false. Any such address gets filtered out.

QUESTIONS:
  • How does your recommended GUI deal with watchonly addresses?
  • Does your GUI display watchonly addresses as different than actual addresses in the wallet?

We need to experiment a bit to see which approach gets a better response triggering the bug. People WILL lose money if they send funds to a watchonly address.

Quote from: jl777B
"the t3 addresses in the 'Own Addresses' column! and they absolutely cant be as they are p2sh addresses. it is clear proof that the bug is very real and anybody that understands a p2sh address will understand it cant be something in your wallet. it is usually a multisig address, so only if it is a 1of1 multisig (possible but very silly) can you have a p2sh address that is spendable, but the wallet wont even know it... normal addresses can also be watchonly, which makes this even worse. in that case it would appear in the list of addresses just like all the others. even if you are able to spot p2sh addresses visually, it wont be enough"

I've been tasked with spreading awareness and facilitating discussion of this bug, so please let me know if you have any questions. I'll get you some answers and we can minimize the impact. We wanted to reach out directly to the developers of the 60+ coins featured on Agama and BarterDEX as the bug may have a direct impact on you (via your own GUI wallet).

- Jay
full member
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So far I see only a haircut of hamsters on this coin, but not dynamic growth. And yes, I'm an investor. And yes, I saw your new fork, and only those who keep them on an offline wallet? Are you seriously? You exchange on bittrex. Maybe you can work harder, so that investors would get a fork there, then that at the moment, your coin and 0.50 $ is not worth it.

Hi marlllbor0, IoP is not forking,Libertaria is our main partner and the founder decided reward IoP COmmunity with the first AIRDROP of his tokens (HYD) to people who hold IoP´s in core wallet (sorry if this made you angry). More airdrops are coming and the Hydra Presale, so stay tunned if you want to participate.. Here the details

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HpSJcdqNepG6ShRqOekd50yns8Rv20SfMXuXiEvIQbc/edit?usp=sharing

You can go to https://iop.global/ and our social media channels (links are there) and review a really hard work we are doing

(just for the records be aware that we are solving algorand, testing our P2P network running Titania en raspberry 3 boxes, and just for fun solving IOTA tangle, and much)..

maybe you can change your mind about us and be part of this amazing project..

Best Regards

Juan, I could not wrote a better answer. Respect!
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its growing I have been watching the network grow they need to get on a few more exchanges too


Yes I agree ... Bittrex is a big exchange but IOP has to go to more exchanges for more volume (and Bittrex is delisting coins sometimes) ... we could try HitBTC, Binance, Upbit and maybe some decentralized exchanges like WavesDEX, COSS or the DEX from Bitshares ...

We are allready listed on UPbit
We are also listed on a decentralized exchange called Bisq.
Current exchange list:
Bittrex
UPbit
BTCPOP
Barterdex
Bisq
sr. member
Activity: 306
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So far I see only a haircut of hamsters on this coin, but not dynamic growth. And yes, I'm an investor. And yes, I saw your new fork, and only those who keep them on an offline wallet? Are you seriously? You exchange on bittrex. Maybe you can work harder, so that investors would get a fork there, then that at the moment, your coin and 0.50 $ is not worth it.

Hi marlllbor0, IoP is not forking,Libertaria is our main partner and the founder decided reward IoP COmmunity with the first AIRDROP of his tokens (HYD) to people who hold IoP´s in core wallet (sorry if this made you angry). More airdrops are coming and the Hydra Presale, so stay tunned if you want to participate.. Here the details

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HpSJcdqNepG6ShRqOekd50yns8Rv20SfMXuXiEvIQbc/edit?usp=sharing

You can go to https://iop.global/ and our social media channels (links are there) and review a really hard work we are doing

(just for the records be aware that we are solving algorand, testing our P2P network running Titania en raspberry 3 boxes, and just for fun solving IOTA tangle, and much)..

maybe you can change your mind about us and be part of this amazing project..

Best Regards



newbie
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So far I see only a haircut of hamsters on this coin, but not dynamic growth. And yes, I'm an investor. And yes, I saw your new fork, and only those who keep them on an offline wallet? Are you seriously? You exchange on bittrex. Maybe you can work harder, so that investors would get a fork there, then that at the moment, your coin and 0.50 $ is not worth it.
full member
Activity: 206
Merit: 106
Old Account was Sev0 (it was hacked)

its growing I have been watching the network grow they need to get on a few more exchanges too


Yes I agree ... Bittrex is a big exchange but IOP has to go to more exchanges for more volume (and Bittrex is delisting coins sometimes) ... we could try HitBTC, Binance, Upbit and maybe some decentralized exchanges like WavesDEX, COSS or the DEX from Bitshares ...

We are allready listed on UPbit
full member
Activity: 389
Merit: 124

its growing I have been watching the network grow they need to get on a few more exchanges too


Yes I agree ... Bittrex is a big exchange but IOP has to go to more exchanges for more volume (and Bittrex is delisting coins sometimes) ... we could try HitBTC, Binance, Upbit and maybe some decentralized exchanges like WavesDEX, COSS or the DEX from Bitshares ...
A strategy to go for more exchanges is already prepared.
Btw, in case you want to see $IoP on coinnest.co.kr (14th Big Exchange in world) then vote for us;
https://twitter.com/coinnest_info/status/936617816194564096
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its growing I have been watching the network grow they need to get on a few more exchanges too


Yes I agree ... Bittrex is a big exchange but IOP has to go to more exchanges for more volume (and Bittrex is delisting coins sometimes) ... we could try HitBTC, Binance, Upbit and maybe some decentralized exchanges like WavesDEX, COSS or the DEX from Bitshares ...
sr. member
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Why no communications here??
Is this project death??

its growing I have been watching the network grow they need to get on a few more exchanges too
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coinBusiness / Gapur Ozdoev
Why is this "very much alive" project already, as the year has not gone beyond one Bittrex exchange?  And in social networks, he has a very modest number of subscribers?
newbie
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Why no communications here??
Is this project death??

What are you talking about ? There's just been a couple of communications / updates. Scroll back a page Wink
This project is very much alive and very promising!
full member
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Why no communications here??
Is this project death??
full member
Activity: 224
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@FermatMX: Thank you for the answer  Smiley


I see at coinmarketcap.com there are 21,000,000 IOP max supply, but only 1,816,107 IOP circulating. When and how will the max supply be reached? Is the number of IOP Coins only growing by mining till 21 Mio (like Bitcoin)? Or also some other way (maybe airdroped?)? Are there calculations when max supply will be reached?
Thanks for answers in advance  Smiley
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Old Account was Sev0 (it was hacked)

Today we proudly present our new Wallet Version 6.1.0 with customized themes and the latest bitcoin codebase.

Downloads could be found here (and in the ANN)
sr. member
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Dear Community,

We successfully started with the roll out of Titania OS to the IoP-Chapters. Why not to everyone?


What does "roll out of Titania OS to the IoP-Chapters" mean? Is this an Airdrop or something else (maybe technical)?

Titania is an Operation System developed by Libertaria Project.. it able that Raspberry 3 be using as IoP full nodes to deploy the network we need to run Decentralized Apps.. The Community chapters are bootstrapping the network
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Dear Community,

We successfully started with the roll out of Titania OS to the IoP-Chapters. Why not to everyone?


What does "roll out of Titania OS to the IoP-Chapters" mean? Is this an Airdrop or something else (maybe technical)?
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