Topic: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe: Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet - page 160. (Read 579788 times)
April 22, 2014, 03:32:17 PM
Is the IPO over?
April 22, 2014, 02:55:44 PM
Project from nothing insta IPO with 4,700+ BTC in 24 hours. This is fucking suspect, no ? A bit "panic buy IPO" with no escrow and a bonus for early investors.
April 22, 2014, 02:27:25 PM
now, MSC backers can see the token of MaidSafeCoin and the property transactions at
http://www.mymastercoins.com/Investors.aspx?CurrencyID=3 or
https://masterchest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=3
http://www.mymastercoins.com/Investors.aspx?CurrencyID=3 or
https://masterchest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=3
Sorry, can someone explain to me those links?
Are BTC investors included?
Why there are already 456 millions of of MaidSafeCoins out of there?
the BTC was manual and slower, the MSC was automatic. so, BTC backers are later.
I think he means , why do 456 million maidsafe(safe) coins already exist, when only mastercoin funds have been accounted for. when that is already more than the premine total if i saw the totals right. so how many will be total premine if already 456 million have gone to mastercoin already
This is exactly what I am wondering too...!?
Yes, sorry for my english I never have occasions to practice ; )
Maybe in that list there are also the developers funds or other stuff... the cap for this IPO should have been ~430000000.
April 22, 2014, 02:25:57 PM
Few important questions I didn't find answer for
- How much more can be bought with bitcoins
- I didn't see anywhere development timeline. When we can expect working version. For what features the money will be used?
- Will the average user (not farmer) be able to visit maidsafe hosted sites without installing any client on his PC?
+1
I asked for the second one and still no answer. They only tell in their website "Full public launch of the network will take place in the very near future."...
April 22, 2014, 01:49:48 PM
now, MSC backers can see the token of MaidSafeCoin and the property transactions at
http://www.mymastercoins.com/Investors.aspx?CurrencyID=3 or
https://masterchest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=3
http://www.mymastercoins.com/Investors.aspx?CurrencyID=3 or
https://masterchest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=3
Sorry, can someone explain to me those links?
Are BTC investors included?
Why there are already 456 millions of of MaidSafeCoins out of there?
the BTC was manual and slower, the MSC was automatic. so, BTC backers are later.
I think he means , why do 456 million maidsafe(safe) coins already exist, when only mastercoin funds have been accounted for. when that is already more than the premine total if i saw the totals right. so how many will be total premine if already 456 million have gone to mastercoin already
This is exactly what I am wondering too...!?
April 22, 2014, 01:42:55 PM
Few important questions I didn't find answer for
- How much more can be bought with bitcoins
- I didn't see anywhere development timeline. When we can expect working version. For what features the money will be used?
- Will the average user (not farmer) be able to visit maidsafe hosted sites without installing any client on his PC?
April 22, 2014, 01:25:26 PM
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Are BTC investors included?
the BTC was manual and slower, the MSC was automatic. so, BTC backers are later.
Thank you.
Still remain to be answered:
"Why there are already 456 millions of of MaidSafeCoins out of there?"
April 22, 2014, 01:24:54 PM
now, MSC backers can see the token of MaidSafeCoin and the property transactions at
http://www.mymastercoins.com/Investors.aspx?CurrencyID=3 or
https://masterchest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=3
http://www.mymastercoins.com/Investors.aspx?CurrencyID=3 or
https://masterchest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=3
Sorry, can someone explain to me those links?
Are BTC investors included?
Why there are already 456 millions of of MaidSafeCoins out of there?
the BTC was manual and slower, the MSC was automatic. so, BTC backers are later.
I think he means , why do 456 million maidsafe(safe) coins already exist, when only mastercoin funds have been accounted for. when that is already more than the premine total if i saw the totals right. so how many will be total premine if already 456 million have gone to mastercoin already
April 22, 2014, 01:16:08 PM
now, MSC backers can see the token of MaidSafeCoin and the property transactions at
http://www.mymastercoins.com/Investors.aspx?CurrencyID=3 or
https://masterchest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=3
http://www.mymastercoins.com/Investors.aspx?CurrencyID=3 or
https://masterchest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=3
Sorry, can someone explain to me those links?
Are BTC investors included?
Why there are already 456 millions of of MaidSafeCoins out of there?
the BTC was manual and slower, the MSC was automatic. so, BTC backers are later.
April 22, 2014, 01:13:53 PM
now, MSC backers can see the token of MaidSafeCoin and the property transactions at
http://www.mymastercoins.com/Investors.aspx?CurrencyID=3 or
https://masterchest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=3
http://www.mymastercoins.com/Investors.aspx?CurrencyID=3 or
https://masterchest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=3
Ah great! My MSC made it though. I bought in again with bitcoin too. Looking forward to becoming a Safecoin Farmer
April 22, 2014, 01:03:57 PM
now, MSC backers can see the token of MaidSafeCoin and the property transactions at
http://www.mymastercoins.com/Investors.aspx?CurrencyID=3 or
https://masterchest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=3
http://www.mymastercoins.com/Investors.aspx?CurrencyID=3 or
https://masterchest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=3
Sorry, can someone explain to me those links?
Are BTC investors included?
Why there are already 456 millions of of MaidSafeCoins out of there?
April 22, 2014, 12:54:51 PM
Well, so much for investing in this coin.
They are letting whales purchase 900 bitcoin worth? wtf?
That is the first problem.
The second is I am not at my home computer. I thought I would have a little more time to send some bitcoin in. If they just let some whales buy up all the coins in the first couple of days I would be rather upset and would never support this coin.
Their greed and attempt to get as much bitcoin as fast as they can indicates there is at least a little scam potential. Either that or some very poor judgment.
To be more exact, Maidsafe is not a coin. It is a project aiming to achieve a Decentralized Internet for everyone. Safecoin is just a token of MAIDSAFE. We use the safecoins to raise fund. Anyway, MAIDSAFECOIN may be the first usable smart property based on the first decentralized coin(BTC） and the first Decentralized Exchange in human history. We are so excited in this historical process. Thanks for your trust!They are letting whales purchase 900 bitcoin worth? wtf?
That is the first problem.
The second is I am not at my home computer. I thought I would have a little more time to send some bitcoin in. If they just let some whales buy up all the coins in the first couple of days I would be rather upset and would never support this coin.
Their greed and attempt to get as much bitcoin as fast as they can indicates there is at least a little scam potential. Either that or some very poor judgment.
cheers
April 22, 2014, 12:40:50 PM
Well, so much for investing in this coin.
They are letting whales purchase 900 bitcoin worth? wtf?
That is the first problem.
The second is I am not at my home computer. I thought I would have a little more time to send some bitcoin in. If they just let some whales buy up all the coins in the first couple of days I would be rather upset and would never support this coin.
Their greed and attempt to get as much bitcoin as fast as they can indicates there is at least a little scam potential. Either that or some very poor judgment.
They are letting whales purchase 900 bitcoin worth? wtf?
That is the first problem.
The second is I am not at my home computer. I thought I would have a little more time to send some bitcoin in. If they just let some whales buy up all the coins in the first couple of days I would be rather upset and would never support this coin.
Their greed and attempt to get as much bitcoin as fast as they can indicates there is at least a little scam potential. Either that or some very poor judgment.
April 22, 2014, 12:33:21 PM
This gonna be huge and amazing, or the best scam ever in crypto-world.
With all this money,maidsafe team can take care of this post .
Good marketing and information to people who invest will be need.
With all this money,maidsafe team can take care of this post .
Good marketing and information to people who invest will be need.
April 22, 2014, 12:26:33 PM
What is everyones consesus on this? IPO scam? Looks interesting but still butt hurt from edgecoin lol
April 22, 2014, 12:23:58 PM
now, MSC backers can see the token of MaidSafeCoin and the property transactions at
http://www.mymastercoins.com/Investors.aspx?CurrencyID=3 or
https://masterchest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=3
http://www.mymastercoins.com/Investors.aspx?CurrencyID=3 or
https://masterchest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=3
April 22, 2014, 11:26:30 AM
4,217.78018524 BTC....surprised from ear to ear.
Whoever it is a scam or not, It has been so successful.
It's the largest ipo that I have ever seen
Whoever it is a scam or not, It has been so successful.
It's the largest ipo that I have ever seen
April 22, 2014, 10:51:17 AM
I am waiting for someone to review the code...
Maybe you should have done that before making a fool of yourself...
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EDIT :
The MaidSafe Foundation, a registered charity, actually own the patents.
In order to use MaidSafe, you have to trust The MaidSafe Foundation who is simply the MaidSafe staff.
It is against the idea of decentralized and free Internet. MaidSafe aim to replace Internet by making it centralised. This is absurd.
MaidSafe will have access to your data any time, will be able to sell it and I think they will do as they are greedy as hell.
The MaidSafe Foundation, a registered charity, actually own the patents.
In order to use MaidSafe, you have to trust The MaidSafe Foundation who is simply the MaidSafe staff.
It is against the idea of decentralized and free Internet. MaidSafe aim to replace Internet by making it centralised. This is absurd.
MaidSafe will have access to your data any time, will be able to sell it and I think they will do as they are greedy as hell.
...and with just a little bit of reading you would have found this:
Patents are not the root of all evil – not always!
At the risk of sounding controversial patents are not totally evil. They were originally set up to allow inventors to be able to profit from their inventions and not intended to be used used as weapons in patent wars that only serve to stifle innovation. We think the true evil here are patent trolls, entities that produce nothing and enforce patent rights in an attempt to secure licensing fees. Economic rent seeking, to put it another way. So, instead of bringing a knife to a gunfight, as our founder would say, MaidSafe has invested significant time and money in a patent portfolio. Some people dismay at this, however, we need to be realistic and if MaidSafe are unfortunate enough to end up in a fight we will be bringing more than knives for sure.
As MaidSafe are operating in such a new and innovative area, the company is afforded several advantages. To be awarded a patent you have to show how you can implement the claims. This means your application should have enough information that anyone versed in the art could reproduce it. As we are the first to create an autonomous network with self authentication and a PKI system that’s implemented in a mathematically complete manner, we have a great advantage over others. We can make broad claims, very broad. This means that we have a patent portfolio, only ever to be used in a defensive capacity, that covers a wide area, something that enables a distributed Internet to exist without fear.
Imagine what would happen if a large incumbent had got this technology and extended and locked it into their own network. A network that allowed no competition and could enhance vendor lock-in, we have all seen that previously, it’s bad for innovation.
At the risk of sounding controversial patents are not totally evil. They were originally set up to allow inventors to be able to profit from their inventions and not intended to be used used as weapons in patent wars that only serve to stifle innovation. We think the true evil here are patent trolls, entities that produce nothing and enforce patent rights in an attempt to secure licensing fees. Economic rent seeking, to put it another way. So, instead of bringing a knife to a gunfight, as our founder would say, MaidSafe has invested significant time and money in a patent portfolio. Some people dismay at this, however, we need to be realistic and if MaidSafe are unfortunate enough to end up in a fight we will be bringing more than knives for sure.
As MaidSafe are operating in such a new and innovative area, the company is afforded several advantages. To be awarded a patent you have to show how you can implement the claims. This means your application should have enough information that anyone versed in the art could reproduce it. As we are the first to create an autonomous network with self authentication and a PKI system that’s implemented in a mathematically complete manner, we have a great advantage over others. We can make broad claims, very broad. This means that we have a patent portfolio, only ever to be used in a defensive capacity, that covers a wide area, something that enables a distributed Internet to exist without fear.
Imagine what would happen if a large incumbent had got this technology and extended and locked it into their own network. A network that allowed no competition and could enhance vendor lock-in, we have all seen that previously, it’s bad for innovation.
tldr; defensive patent.
April 22, 2014, 10:44:33 AM
Too bad, I was very interested in this coin, planned to invest in it, but the fact that they changed the terms of the pre-sale with no advance warning makes it a non-starter for me. No mention was ever made of a 50% allocation between BTC and MSC investment. People were misled to believe both were allowed up to the total Safecoin to be sold.
They messed up - they should expect it, tons of MSC holders were waiting for a quick exit...I expected about 20% of the pre-sale to go quickly given sales volume of MSC over the last week, the unknown was how much existing MSC holders prior to the Maidsafe announcement to accept MSC alongside BTC at a fixed ratio would exchange MSC for Maidsafe, which turned out to be a lot. Trying to peg exchange rates never works in the long run, whether it is bimetallic standards in the 1800s, fiat now, or crypto.
By changing the terms of their offering during the IPO, Maidsafe has lost credibility and temporarily devalued the value of the currency most of their funding came from.
April 22, 2014, 10:42:44 AM
oh~boss, you should speak English here
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