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Topic: [ANN] [JUDGE] Judge Coin | Multipool is UP @ http://judge.bemining.net/ - page 19. (Read 150095 times)

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Obvious manipulation is obvious.

Seriously, dudes.  There's no one trading this coin who hasn't been around the block a few times.

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Is it manipulation or simply trading? It's a free market.

How do you even define a line? Trading is manipulation. Manipulation is done through trading. The whole point of trading is to make profit and if you're not moving the market yourself, someone else has to or no one gets anything at all.

Free markets are absolutely fascinating though Smiley

I don't have to draw a line. I completely agree with you. In the crypto markets manipulation is not possible because there are no derivatives like for example in the precious metals' markets (paper metals).

So, people who are complaining about market or price manipulations are simply envious. They would move the price for their benefit as well if they were able to.

I'm not 'complaining', I'm merely noting that the manipulation is obvious, clumsy, and blatant.



People are simply trading and thus the price is moving. If you call that manipulation it's your business.
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Obvious manipulation is obvious.

Seriously, dudes.  There's no one trading this coin who hasn't been around the block a few times.

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Is it manipulation or simply trading? It's a free market.

How do you even define a line? Trading is manipulation. Manipulation is done through trading. The whole point of trading is to make profit and if you're not moving the market yourself, someone else has to or no one gets anything at all.

Free markets are absolutely fascinating though Smiley

I don't have to draw a line. I completely agree with you. In the crypto markets manipulation is not possible because there are no derivatives like for example in the precious metals' markets (paper metals).

So, people who are complaining about market or price manipulations are simply envious. They would move the price for their benefit as well if they were able to.

I'm not 'complaining', I'm merely noting that the manipulation is obvious, clumsy, and blatant.

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For the benefit of medical research
Obvious manipulation is obvious.

Seriously, dudes.  There's no one trading this coin who hasn't been around the block a few times.

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Is it manipulation or simply trading? It's a free market.

How do you even define a line? Trading is manipulation. Manipulation is done through trading. The whole point of trading is to make profit and if you're not moving the market yourself, someone else has to or no one gets anything at all.

Free markets are absolutely fascinating though Smiley

I don't have to draw a line. I completely agree with you. In the crypto markets manipulation is not possible because there are no derivatives like for example in the precious metals' markets (paper metals).

So, people who are complaining about market or price manipulations are simply envious. They would move the price for their benefit as well if they were able to.
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Obvious manipulation is obvious.

Seriously, dudes.  There's no one trading this coin who hasn't been around the block a few times.

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Is it manipulation or simply trading? It's a free market.

How do you even define a line? Trading is manipulation. Manipulation is done through trading. The whole point of trading is to make profit and if you're not moving the market yourself, someone else has to or no one gets anything at all.

Free markets are absolutely fascinating though Smiley
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
For the benefit of medical research
Obvious manipulation is obvious.

Seriously, dudes.  There's no one trading this coin who hasn't been around the block a few times.

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Is it manipulation or simply trading? It's a free market.
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Merit: 250
Obvious manipulation is obvious.

Seriously, dudes.  There's no one trading this coin who hasn't been around the block a few times.

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Seems like Judge has reached it plateau on 2000. I wondered how high it would go. What are you guys planning to prevent the price graph from following most other alt-coins from here which is normally a gradual downward slope?

EDIT: I see the plans are covered in the previous poster's link. I hope it is enough to keep the volume and price momentum going.

No one can seriously predict where things will go to. Those dips and spikes are part of this game. I believe the dev team is doing a great job to keep the coin thriving.
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Seems like Judge has reached it plateau on 2000. I wondered how high it would go. What are you guys planning to prevent the price graph from following most other alt-coins from here which is normally a gradual downward slope?

EDIT: I see the plans are covered in the previous poster's link. I hope it is enough to keep the volume and price momentum going.

No one can seriously predict where things will go to. Those dips and spikes are part of this game. I believe the dev team is doing a great job to keep the coin thriving.
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Seems like Judge has reached it plateau on 2000. I wondered how high it would go. What are you guys planning to prevent the price graph from following most other alt-coins from here which is normally a gradual downward slope?

EDIT: I see the plans are covered in the previous poster's link. I hope it is enough to keep the volume and price momentum going.
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Cryptoarticles.com spend another article on Judgecoin yesterday.
http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/judgecoin-future-plans-revealed-e-commerce-multipool-more

Especially the last sentence says it all to me Smiley
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A simple large buy does not indicate manipulation. Besides, as far as free market in crypto right now is concerned these are all legitimate actions, whale action  or not.

Most importantly, it is a fact that no coin succeeds unless buy pushes are greater than sells. If a few large investors help this process along, that's free market right there.

Lastly, mega dumps are for amateurs. If whales are indeed involved, they would find ways to profit and exit without crashing the market and destroying their own profit - besides books are too thin to make a dump profitable.

3 huge buys greater than the available order book are not upwards pressure, they are manipulation. It's a so called whale selling to himself to create the appearance of volume. Then the buyers come in on the hyped volume and he dumps those 9 BTC worth right into them.

Judge himself has said he doesn't want this and it's not welcome here but that was what was happening so I posted it. Most of the volume today was someone trading himself 400K to 500K coins back and forth. It was P&D.



I think they might be the work of people who are trying to accumulate. BTW, bittrex order books are limited and does not show beyond certain limits, so you are off on that.

Big players ARE showing interest - for them 5 or 9 btc under 5k is nothing to them. They are all too happy to buy from people who gathered at sub 1k prices because they see some potential here.

It's free market action. It's unreasonable to jump to a singular conclusion because you are unscrupulously being cynical without thinking things through.


I was watching the market all day yesterday, the transactions in question are absolutely the work of a sole trader. The orders we're talking about don't even appear on the order book they happen so quickly, ensuring only the same person buys back his coins.

There have definitely been "legitimate" big trades- a 2BTC support wall that was a couple of sats lower than the top buy price got wiped out in one dump, same happened the other way round and that's just free trade and as you say it's nothing to a big player to have a 2BTC wall dumped into.

Basically what i'm saying is you're both right and tbh I'm happy for any attention we can get right now. Once the word is out we will huge support and we will make this coin even stronger.
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A simple large buy does not indicate manipulation. Besides, as far as free market in crypto right now is concerned these are all legitimate actions, whale action  or not.

Most importantly, it is a fact that no coin succeeds unless buy pushes are greater than sells. If a few large investors help this process along, that's free market right there.

Lastly, mega dumps are for amateurs. If whales are indeed involved, they would find ways to profit and exit without crashing the market and destroying their own profit - besides books are too thin to make a dump profitable.

3 huge buys greater than the available order book are not upwards pressure, they are manipulation. It's a so called whale selling to himself to create the appearance of volume. Then the buyers come in on the hyped volume and he dumps those 9 BTC worth right into them.

Judge himself has said he doesn't want this and it's not welcome here but that was what was happening so I posted it. Most of the volume today was someone trading himself 400K to 500K coins back and forth. It was P&D.



I think they might be the work of people who are trying to accumulate. BTW, bittrex order books are limited and does not show beyond certain limits, so you are off on that.

Big players ARE showing interest - for them 5 or 9 btc under 5k is nothing to them. They are all too happy to buy from people who gathered at sub 1k prices because they see some potential here.

It's free market action. It's unreasonable to jump to a singular conclusion because you are unscrupulously being cynical without thinking things through.
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Of Pump and Dumps...

Today we hit #1 24 Hour trade volume on Bittrex with over 186 BTC in trades.  Personally I am proud of the fact that we are getting that kind of attention.  There is speculation that we are in the middle of a Pump and Dump.  As in most cases the truth is neither black or white, but shades of grey.  There is undoubtedly market manipulation that goes on with every coin.  The manipulation is primarily in new coins by touting features and hype to drive up the price only to dump it.  Well organized Pump and Dumps with new coins end up hurting unknowing investors.  They buy into the hype and get left holding the bag.  I have made it somewhat difficult to artificially pump Judge Coin as I have not announced any specific feature the coin will pursue.  If people are pumping the fact that we are a long term coin then that is absolutely true as we are!  

I am not here to be a financial adviser.  I founded and manage the coin with a great team and community input.  Don't put anything into crypto you cant afford to lose.  That said the reason I posted my personal bio was I wanted to make people feel comfortable that there is a real leader for this coin.  Too many coins are launched now with a lot of feature promises only to be let down.  I am not promising any specific feature.  I am promising a organizational process and my hard work.

What I can tell you that I am not focused on short term price gains.  I believe that since we have a limited supply of coins the price will grow organically as more people find out about the coin and buy in for the long run.   Many people bought in at sub 1k prices.  It is natural for these people to cash in on their investment.  I actually applaud those that believed in Judge Coin and my vision to start.  If they want to realize gains then they deserve it.  Without those early supporters we would not have been able to support Judge Coin with millions of coins being dumped by wafflepool and trademybit.

For all those finding about Judge coin now I want you to know that I am focused on long term building of the coin.  New features will be introduced.  I am not going to pre-announce a specific feature so that a Pump and Dump can occur on it.  Right now the lead dev is working on the next wallet update.  After that he will be working on the multipool.

We have a already vibrant and growing community.  Please check out facebook, twiiter, and reddit!  There are dedicated community mangers there.  

Exciting times are ahead Smiley

If you ever have a question PM me here, on judgecoin.com or Twitter! Smiley

Judge Crypto

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Well I rode that wave wrong! Sold half at 8400 expecting to be able to buy back in on a dump, but Volume took off and the price went with it! But I did recover what I lost on the last coin I invested in on that...

Hmm. Judgecoin hit 8400 Satoshi? Where the hell was I? Congrats on your win.  Undecided



LOL Oops! 1840!
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A simple large buy does not indicate manipulation. Besides, as far as free market in crypto right now is concerned these are all legitimate actions, whale action  or not.

Most importantly, it is a fact that no coin succeeds unless buy pushes are greater than sells. If a few large investors help this process along, that's free market right there.

Lastly, mega dumps are for amateurs. If whales are indeed involved, they would find ways to profit and exit without crashing the market and destroying their own profit - besides books are too thin to make a dump profitable.

3 huge buys greater than the available order book are not upwards pressure, they are manipulation. It's a so called whale selling to himself to create the appearance of volume. Then the buyers come in on the hyped volume and he dumps those 9 BTC worth right into them.

Judge himself has said he doesn't want this and it's not welcome here but that was what was happening so I posted it. Most of the volume today was someone trading himself 400K to 500K coins back and forth. It was P&D.

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