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sr. member
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I just went trough Cryptonote blockchain paper(Very fast, I will have to to it again more deeply, but I think I understand basics thanks to my Cryptology lessons from my studies.). As far as I understand, almost everything is different. Group keys, Addresses, verification.. Almost nothing is common.  How you want to make hybrid solution? Do you want to modify protocol to use all those new features? Or to support both types? Old LKY protocol + new group key signing, with both old and new adresses? I can imagine it can be done, it should not be hard to be able to use 2 different type of transactions, if you solve the problem how to send coins from old address type to new one and back. But I have no idea what is the impact on blockchain. But If you manage to create such hypbrid solution, LKY will be much more expensive than monero;)

A block chain level integration of the two technologies is certainly very difficult with the current code base.
We would need an even more general and flexible and configurable crypto framework to build upon.

On the other hand it is possible to use exchanges or other trusted entities to transfer coins from one network to another. An exchange address is designated as a coin "sink" on one side. All coins received at that address are exchanged and then sent to the other network. This has already been done for coin relaunches. Here it would be a permanent mechanism to let the coins flow back and forth between the networks. Still, there has to be enough liquidity in the exchange to make it feasible.

In this construction the Cryptonote network would act as a giant coin mixer network and as a companion to the Luckycoin network.


I think it is complicated. Converting old coins to new coins on relaunch is one time job. Your solution requires some tusted exchange with liquidity all the time. Maybe the solution could be to create new coin - aLKY - anonymous LKY and use Proof of Burn concept. If someone from LKY blockchain sends his coins to 1 well defined public address in LKY blockchain without private key, he burns and destroys his coins. This will be detected by anonymous LKY client and it will create new address in anonymous blockchain with that exact number of coins. The new anonymous address can be specified in that burning transaction as commentary.  Same can be done if someone wants to send coins from Anonymous LKY to old LKY blockchain. He can burn anonymous LKY and as a commentary will be new LKY address.  This way, the only task is to implement coin burn detection on another blockchain.  The drawback is, there will be 2 blockchains required for correct work. LKY will not be able to work without aLKY and vice versa. The cool part is,LKY blockchain will be same as BTC has, and aLKY will have same blockchain as Monero.  Problem is, that blockgeneartion will require miners to add detect burned transactions from other blockchain.  Mining can be hybrid, some on aLKY some on LKY.

Thanks for the hint on the proof of burn strategy. I never really looked into the details of proof of burn.

I have been sketching some designs of a flexible crypto framework that would allow to process different block chains.
In the end we might get to a point where we can feed different block chains into one wallet and fuse the block chains together.
sr. member
Activity: 314
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I just went trough Cryptonote blockchain paper(Very fast, I will have to to it again more deeply, but I think I understand basics thanks to my Cryptology lessons from my studies.). As far as I understand, almost everything is different. Group keys, Addresses, verification.. Almost nothing is common.  How you want to make hybrid solution? Do you want to modify protocol to use all those new features? Or to support both types? Old LKY protocol + new group key signing, with both old and new adresses? I can imagine it can be done, it should not be hard to be able to use 2 different type of transactions, if you solve the problem how to send coins from old address type to new one and back. But I have no idea what is the impact on blockchain. But If you manage to create such hypbrid solution, LKY will be much more expensive than monero;)

A block chain level integration of the two technologies is certainly very difficult with the current code base.
We would need an even more general and flexible and configurable crypto framework to build upon.

On the other hand it is possible to use exchanges or other trusted entities to transfer coins from one network to another. An exchange address is designated as a coin "sink" on one side. All coins received at that address are exchanged and then sent to the other network. This has already been done for coin relaunches. Here it would be a permanent mechanism to let the coins flow back and forth between the networks. Still, there has to be enough liquidity in the exchange to make it feasible.

In this construction the Cryptonote network would act as a giant coin mixer network and as a companion to the Luckycoin network.


I think it is complicated. Converting old coins to new coins on relaunch is one time job. Your solution requires some tusted exchange with liquidity all the time. Maybe the solution could be to create new coin - aLKY - anonymous LKY and use Proof of Burn concept. If someone from LKY blockchain sends his coins to 1 well defined public address in LKY blockchain without private key, he burns and destroys his coins. This will be detected by anonymous LKY client and it will create new address in anonymous blockchain with that exact number of coins. The new anonymous address can be specified in that burning transaction as commentary.  Same can be done if someone wants to send coins from Anonymous LKY to old LKY blockchain. He can burn anonymous LKY and as a commentary will be new LKY address.  This way, the only task is to implement coin burn detection on another blockchain.  The drawback is, there will be 2 blockchains required for correct work. LKY will not be able to work without aLKY and vice versa. The cool part is,LKY blockchain will be same as BTC has, and aLKY will have same blockchain as Monero.  Problem is, that blockgeneartion will require miners to add detect burned transactions from other blockchain.  Mining can be hybrid, some on aLKY some on LKY.
sr. member
Activity: 261
Merit: 250
I just went trough Cryptonote blockchain paper(Very fast, I will have to to it again more deeply, but I think I understand basics thanks to my Cryptology lessons from my studies.). As far as I understand, almost everything is different. Group keys, Addresses, verification.. Almost nothing is common.  How you want to make hybrid solution? Do you want to modify protocol to use all those new features? Or to support both types? Old LKY protocol + new group key signing, with both old and new adresses? I can imagine it can be done, it should not be hard to be able to use 2 different type of transactions, if you solve the problem how to send coins from old address type to new one and back. But I have no idea what is the impact on blockchain. But If you manage to create such hypbrid solution, LKY will be much more expensive than monero;)

A block chain level integration of the two technologies is certainly very difficult with the current code base.
We would need an even more general and flexible and configurable crypto framework to build upon.

On the other hand it is possible to use exchanges or other trusted entities to transfer coins from one network to another. An exchange address is designated as a coin "sink" on one side. All coins received at that address are exchanged and then sent to the other network. This has already been done for coin relaunches. Here it would be a permanent mechanism to let the coins flow back and forth between the networks. Still, there has to be enough liquidity in the exchange to make it feasible.

In this construction the Cryptonote network would act as a giant coin mixer network and as a companion to the Luckycoin network.
sr. member
Activity: 314
Merit: 250
Can you implement that kind of anonymity into LKY? If you make LKY anonymous like MRO, the price will 100x in a month. It is hot today. Since LKY is only POW, it is less attractive than other POS, POW/POS coins. Anonymity with old coin history, with full time active DEV are the best reasons to buy all LKT on the market. Let us know. Thank you

I have actually been playing with some ideas in that direction. I even thought about a launch of a Cryptonote type network, but without a link to the current Luckycoin network it would not create much value, imo. What would be interesting is to have these two types share their coins, or at least be able to transfer coins back and forth in a way. Doing some merged mining would be a starting point.

I already had a lot of private discussions about the POW/POS topic. My point of view is that a coin with POW + ACP (automatic checkpointing) and an accelerated reward reduction is very similar to a POS coin in the long run. For both types POW mining will be eventually low and the blockchain is secured by other means, i.e. ACP or POS mining. Although I would argue that ACP is safer at that point, because there is no 51% attack on ACP compared to POS. Although owning 51% of the coins and destroying the network is a bit rude.

Mining is in a sense smoke and mirrors while the checkpoints are the key.
Read this paper for some enlightenment: http://www.links.org/files/decentralised-currencies.pdf



I have read the paper, it is too abstract. Is there already something like this implemented? So you can use something what was already implemented somewhere else and tested. Anyway, it sounds like a good idea how to make the currency save for long run.

What about anonymity protocol? Are you planning something in near future?

The good news are there is a buy support forming on LKY on cryptsy, it seems not only me and you are interested in this coin:)

Peercoin was an early spinoff of the ideas presented in the paper. Mining is a means to find temporary consensus, but only checkpoints set things in stone. If you have a quantum computer you could rewrite even the Bitcoin block chain back to the last checkpoint. The checkpointing system has been implemented in the Luckycoin at the end of last year and has kept the coin safe since then.

I have been researching the newer anonymity features. I am currently looking into options to link a Cryptonote type block chain with a Bitcoin type block chain. The Bitcoin infrastructure is currently much more advanced compared to Cryptonote, so it is a good idea to look at some hybrid solutions.

I am thinking along the lines to have a more anonymous sister network based on Cryptonote technology but link it closely to the current Luckycoin network. As I have outlined before the Luckycoin network will continue to play an essential role in the future.

Yes, we have got some good support on Cryptsy. The Luckycoin has seen even a bit less volatility compared to other coins, but generally the coins tend to move with the overall market. Selling pressure from mining is already relatively low and we are halfway through the third mining cycle.



I just went trough Cryptonote blockchain paper(Very fast, I will have to to it again more deeply, but I think I understand basics thanks to my Cryptology lessons from my studies.). As far as I understand, almost everything is different. Group keys, Addresses, verification.. Almost nothing is common.  How you want to make hybrid solution? Do you want to modify protocol to use all those new features? Or to support both types? Old LKY protocol + new group key signing, with both old and new adresses? I can imagine it can be done, it should not be hard to be able to use 2 different type of transactions, if you solve the problem how to send coins from old address type to new one and back. But I have no idea what is the impact on blockchain. But If you manage to create such hypbrid solution, LKY will be much more expensive than monero;)
sr. member
Activity: 261
Merit: 250
The https://www.megamultipool.com put a lot of hash rate on the Luckycoin network last night and drove up the difficulty.

I haven't seen a pool doing this for a while. I have sent them an email for comment.
I the mean time the network operation is back to normal.
sr. member
Activity: 261
Merit: 250
Can you implement that kind of anonymity into LKY? If you make LKY anonymous like MRO, the price will 100x in a month. It is hot today. Since LKY is only POW, it is less attractive than other POS, POW/POS coins. Anonymity with old coin history, with full time active DEV are the best reasons to buy all LKT on the market. Let us know. Thank you

I have actually been playing with some ideas in that direction. I even thought about a launch of a Cryptonote type network, but without a link to the current Luckycoin network it would not create much value, imo. What would be interesting is to have these two types share their coins, or at least be able to transfer coins back and forth in a way. Doing some merged mining would be a starting point.

I already had a lot of private discussions about the POW/POS topic. My point of view is that a coin with POW + ACP (automatic checkpointing) and an accelerated reward reduction is very similar to a POS coin in the long run. For both types POW mining will be eventually low and the blockchain is secured by other means, i.e. ACP or POS mining. Although I would argue that ACP is safer at that point, because there is no 51% attack on ACP compared to POS. Although owning 51% of the coins and destroying the network is a bit rude.

Mining is in a sense smoke and mirrors while the checkpoints are the key.
Read this paper for some enlightenment: http://www.links.org/files/decentralised-currencies.pdf



I have read the paper, it is too abstract. Is there already something like this implemented? So you can use something what was already implemented somewhere else and tested. Anyway, it sounds like a good idea how to make the currency save for long run.

What about anonymity protocol? Are you planning something in near future?

The good news are there is a buy support forming on LKY on cryptsy, it seems not only me and you are interested in this coin:)

Peercoin was an early spinoff of the ideas presented in the paper. Mining is a means to find temporary consensus, but only checkpoints set things in stone. If you have a quantum computer you could rewrite even the Bitcoin block chain back to the last checkpoint. The checkpointing system has been implemented in the Luckycoin at the end of last year and has kept the coin safe since then.

I have been researching the newer anonymity features. I am currently looking into options to link a Cryptonote type block chain with a Bitcoin type block chain. The Bitcoin infrastructure is currently much more advanced compared to Cryptonote, so it is a good idea to look at some hybrid solutions.

I am thinking along the lines to have a more anonymous sister network based on Cryptonote technology but link it closely to the current Luckycoin network. As I have outlined before the Luckycoin network will continue to play an essential role in the future.

Yes, we have got some good support on Cryptsy. The Luckycoin has seen even a bit less volatility compared to other coins, but generally the coins tend to move with the overall market. Selling pressure from mining is already relatively low and we are halfway through the third mining cycle.

sr. member
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The Luckycoin got some media exposure on Wired.com today:

Bitcoin Isn’t the Only Way You Can Mine a Digital Fortune
http://www.wired.com/2014/06/litecoin_mining/
sr. member
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Can you implement that kind of anonymity into LKY? If you make LKY anonymous like MRO, the price will 100x in a month. It is hot today. Since LKY is only POW, it is less attractive than other POS, POW/POS coins. Anonymity with old coin history, with full time active DEV are the best reasons to buy all LKT on the market. Let us know. Thank you

I have actually been playing with some ideas in that direction. I even thought about a launch of a Cryptonote type network, but without a link to the current Luckycoin network it would not create much value, imo. What would be interesting is to have these two types share their coins, or at least be able to transfer coins back and forth in a way. Doing some merged mining would be a starting point.

I already had a lot of private discussions about the POW/POS topic. My point of view is that a coin with POW + ACP (automatic checkpointing) and an accelerated reward reduction is very similar to a POS coin in the long run. For both types POW mining will be eventually low and the blockchain is secured by other means, i.e. ACP or POS mining. Although I would argue that ACP is safer at that point, because there is no 51% attack on ACP compared to POS. Although owning 51% of the coins and destroying the network is a bit rude.

Mining is in a sense smoke and mirrors while the checkpoints are the key.
Read this paper for some enlightenment: http://www.links.org/files/decentralised-currencies.pdf



I have read the paper, it is too abstract. Is there already something like this implemented? So you can use something what was already implemented somewhere else and tested. Anyway, it sounds like a good idea how to make the currency save for long run.

What about anonymity protocol? Are you planning something in near future?

The good news are there is a buy support forming on LKY on cryptsy, it seems not only me and you are interested in this coin:)
sr. member
Activity: 314
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Is there same simple way how to accept LKY as web payment method? Best would be some JS library with simple include and simple call + some web server to call my callback URL on my server with confirmation. Or at least some service with API, where my server can ask for transaction status. Installing wallet and using wallet software + using blockchain is nightmare for payment acceptance. People need simple way how to accept crypto payments.

Luckycoin is essentially Litecoin/Bitcoin, so there are many options to adapt Bitcoin software.
The operator of http://www.blueyvpn.com/ implemented a Luckycoin payment option for his business.
You might want to get in touch with him.

CoinPayments is another option I am trying to get the Luckycoin listed.

While we are on the topic please vote for the Luckycoin to be accepted by CoinPayments.
https://www.coinpayments.net/vote


Sorry, voting finished in May:(
sr. member
Activity: 261
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Is there same simple way how to accept LKY as web payment method? Best would be some JS library with simple include and simple call + some web server to call my callback URL on my server with confirmation. Or at least some service with API, where my server can ask for transaction status. Installing wallet and using wallet software + using blockchain is nightmare for payment acceptance. People need simple way how to accept crypto payments.

Luckycoin is essentially Litecoin/Bitcoin, so there are many options to adapt Bitcoin software.
The operator of http://www.blueyvpn.com/ implemented a Luckycoin payment option for his business.
You might want to get in touch with him.

CoinPayments is another option I am trying to get the Luckycoin listed.

While we are on the topic please vote for the Luckycoin to be accepted by CoinPayments.
https://www.coinpayments.net/vote
sr. member
Activity: 261
Merit: 250
Can you implement that kind of anonymity into LKY? If you make LKY anonymous like MRO, the price will 100x in a month. It is hot today. Since LKY is only POW, it is less attractive than other POS, POW/POS coins. Anonymity with old coin history, with full time active DEV are the best reasons to buy all LKT on the market. Let us know. Thank you

I have actually been playing with some ideas in that direction. I even thought about a launch of a Cryptonote type network, but without a link to the current Luckycoin network it would not create much value, imo. What would be interesting is to have these two types share their coins, or at least be able to transfer coins back and forth in a way. Doing some merged mining would be a starting point.

I already had a lot of private discussions about the POW/POS topic. My point of view is that a coin with POW + ACP (automatic checkpointing) and an accelerated reward reduction is very similar to a POS coin in the long run. For both types POW mining will be eventually low and the blockchain is secured by other means, i.e. ACP or POS mining. Although I would argue that ACP is safer at that point, because there is no 51% attack on ACP compared to POS. Although owning 51% of the coins and destroying the network is a bit rude.

Mining is in a sense smoke and mirrors while the checkpoints are the key.
Read this paper for some enlightenment: http://www.links.org/files/decentralised-currencies.pdf
sr. member
Activity: 314
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Is there same simple way how to accept LKY as web payment method? Best would be some JS library with simple include and simple call + some web server to call my callback URL on my server with confirmation. Or at least some service with API, where my server can ask for transaction status. Installing wallet and using wallet software + using blockchain is nightmare for payment acceptance. People need simple way how to accept crypto payments.
sr. member
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Titan, don't you know who created that 9 BTC sell wall on cryptsy at 880-900 satoshi? I planed to pump LKY when it was 600 satoshi, now it is 370 and falling down. I know, there is not much sell orders, but since there are neither buy orders price will decline and it  will be much harder to get LKY some value again. It could be completely different, if that 9 BTC sell wall wasn't there. Pumping cheap coins with such sell walls is impossible, it just makes LKY cheaper and cheaper.

Yes, I have been watching this. The sell orders are not mine for the record.
I assume the seller wants to push the price lower and shake out some weak hands, or maybe he simply wants to sell at a certain price.
You are right there was an opportunity to get some action two weeks ago, but it didn't get much traction.

The whole market is weak, so maybe it is better to take 10BTC and pick up twice as many coins at lower prices.

I have been looking into MRO recently for some additional anonymity features. It is an interesting code base.


Can you implement that kind of anonymity into LKY? If you make LKY anonymous like MRO, the price will 100x in a month. It is hot today. Since LKY is only POW, it is less attractive than other POS, POW/POS coins. Anonymity with old coin history, with full time active DEV are the best reasons to buy all LKT on the market. Let us know. Thank you
sr. member
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Dear Luckycoin community,

The Luckycoin is now available for trading on Allcrypt.com!
https://www.allcrypt.com/market?id=757

Get Lucky,

Titan
sr. member
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Titan, don't you know who created that 9 BTC sell wall on cryptsy at 880-900 satoshi? I planed to pump LKY when it was 600 satoshi, now it is 370 and falling down. I know, there is not much sell orders, but since there are neither buy orders price will decline and it  will be much harder to get LKY some value again. It could be completely different, if that 9 BTC sell wall wasn't there. Pumping cheap coins with such sell walls is impossible, it just makes LKY cheaper and cheaper.

Yes, I have been watching this. The sell orders are not mine for the record.
I assume the seller wants to push the price lower and shake out some weak hands, or maybe he simply wants to sell at a certain price.
You are right there was an opportunity to get some action two weeks ago, but it didn't get much traction.

The whole market is weak, so maybe it is better to take 10BTC and pick up twice as many coins at lower prices.

I have been looking into MRO recently for some additional anonymity features. It is an interesting code base.
sr. member
Activity: 314
Merit: 250



Happy Birthday Luckycoin!

The Luckycoin is one year old today!



Titan, don't you know who created that 9 BTC sell wall on cryptsy at 880-900 satoshi? I planed to pump LKY when it was 600 satoshi, now it is 370 and falling down. I know, there is not much sell orders, but since there are neither buy orders price will decline and it  will be much harder to get LKY some value again. It could be completely different, if that 9 BTC sell wall wasn't there. Pumping cheap coins with such sell walls is impossible, it just makes LKY cheaper and cheaper.
sr. member
Activity: 261
Merit: 250



Happy Birthday Luckycoin!

The Luckycoin is one year old today!

sr. member
Activity: 261
Merit: 250
Anyone know what gives with this message in the client?



I don't see any issues on the Luckycoin network. Checkpointing is working normally.

It seems your block chain data got corrupted. Please delete your chain data and download a good chain again.

Titan
legendary
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Anyone know what gives with this message in the client?

newbie
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Optimistic about this coin. Now take advantage of the low price, I wil buy some.
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