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Topic: [ANN] Mellow Ads - simple, bitcoin advertising. Network/CPM/CPC. Free faucet! - page 33. (Read 82568 times)

full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
The steps mellowads is taking is fantastic, next we need those damn CPC network campaigns Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
I've never had issues, my sites get tons of traffic and Alexa keeps getting better and better

"The theory... most people..." this simply means you're part of "most people." That's like saying "There's no such thing as robbers. I've never been robbed."

I think 95% of websites are part of that "most people", in the end if you have a legit site with good traffic your alexa ranking will be golden

I was just saying that you're making a claim that encapsulates everyone, when that's completely incorrect. There are plenty of edge cases in which what you're claiming isn't true, so you really can't lump everyone in there and claim that just because they have a low Alexa means they don't have good traffic. Alexa is only a small portion of users. The assumption being made is that the small subset will be used to determine the overall consensus. For example, if it reads 100 users and 10 visited Facebook and 5 visited Google, it uses the assumption that Facebook has 2x as many views as Google does. In actuality, Google could have more views.

That said, Mellow isn't targeting a low, specific number (i.e., top 5, 10, 50, etc.), so it shouldn't be much of an issue and manipulation shouldn't come into play.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
I've never had issues, my sites get tons of traffic and Alexa keeps getting better and better

"The theory... most people..." this simply means you're part of "most people." That's like saying "There's no such thing as robbers. I've never been robbed."

I think 95% of websites are part of that "most people", in the end if you have a legit site with good traffic your alexa ranking will be golden
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
I've never had issues, my sites get tons of traffic and Alexa keeps getting better and better

"The theory... most people..." this simply means you're part of "most people." That's like saying "There's no such thing as robbers. I've never been robbed."
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
I've never had issues, my sites get tons of traffic and Alexa keeps getting better and better
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Funny how all counters I use just banned my site, because of high traffic and then I get the boot from this network only because I don't have good alexa rating.

Well if your site has high traffic than you will have no problem getting a good alexa rating Smiley

Not necessarily. People who think this don't understand how Alexa works. You can bot Alexa ratings, and you can have a site with great traffic and not have a high Alexa rank. The theory is that most people land in the middle of the two extremes, though it's not always true.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
Funny how all counters I use just banned my site, because of high traffic and then I get the boot from this network only because I don't have good alexa rating.

Well if your site has high traffic than you will have no problem getting a good alexa rating Smiley
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Funny how all counters I use just banned my site, because of high traffic and then I get the boot from this network only because I don't have good alexa rating.
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
Hey this seems pretty cool,

I set up my account and do you want this?

Account ref A804E2445595
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
My website was rejected. If I optimize my Alexa rank. Can I add my website to mellowads again?

Cheers
Salmen

I had asked about this, and the answer is yes, Smiley. When you meet all requirements, re-add it and they will re-evaluate it again.

Time to boost mine up as well!
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
Nice to see number of network sites down from 2000 something to 1100ish Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1059
Merit: 1020
My website was rejected. If I optimize my Alexa rank. Can I add my website to mellowads again?

Cheers
Salmen
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Please add an option for publishers to remove active cpm/cpc campaigns that are undesirable.
Can this really be implemented?

It'd work just the same as network ads. The only difference is instead of splitting payments among all sites, it would just pay each site based on the # of clicks. So yes, it's doable, and the framework should already be there.

This is on our development list, but isn't quite as straightforward as you guys might think.

There are a couple of problems that we are trying to come up with a solution for (without negatively affecting the current system)...

1) How much does a click cost? Each different publishers CPM price or a fixed price set by the advertiser?
The best solution we can think of here is for the advertiser to specify the CPC price they want to pay and then their campaign will only be shown on any publishers web sites that have set a CPC price equal to or lower than this.

2) On each page view, how does the system decide whether to show a CPC campaign advert or a standard network campaign advert?
Currently if there are no direct CPM/CPC campaigns running on an ad space then it just randomly selects one of the network campaigns - weighted random based on how much is being paid per day by the advertiser. Its not obvious how the system should decide to show a CPC network advert instead - especially as this (in most cases - when it results in no click) means the publisher will lose out on the network campaign pool for that view.

We are working through these issues and will hopefully come up with something soon that will work for everyone Smiley
1) We did this the same way and thinks it's the best way too - if advertisers set max cpc of 0.001, every publisher with <=0.001 CPC displays them and gets payed for each click (with the CPC price of the adspace)
2) It seems that it's hard to mix cpm and cpc network campaigns, so probably you could just divide them into two pools - and if the publisher chooses network cpc campaigns for the time his adspace is unused - all cpc network campaigns could be shown with equal chance. If he chooses the traditional network campaign - it will work the old way. The other way is to let him set a priority (10%-20%-50% or whatever) and based on that to display CPC or standard network.

Maybe take it a step further. Allow publishers to see a listing of all CPC ads and choose the ones they want to display. Keep in mind that CPC ad clicks are 99.9% based on the ad itself and NOT the publisher's site. A great site with a crappy advertiser will get no clicks. A crappy site with a great advertiser will get a lot. Giving the publisher a way to determine what best fits their site would go a long way.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
Cheap and easy advertising
Please add an option for publishers to remove active cpm/cpc campaigns that are undesirable.
Can this really be implemented?

It'd work just the same as network ads. The only difference is instead of splitting payments among all sites, it would just pay each site based on the # of clicks. So yes, it's doable, and the framework should already be there.

This is on our development list, but isn't quite as straightforward as you guys might think.

There are a couple of problems that we are trying to come up with a solution for (without negatively affecting the current system)...

1) How much does a click cost? Each different publishers CPM price or a fixed price set by the advertiser?
The best solution we can think of here is for the advertiser to specify the CPC price they want to pay and then their campaign will only be shown on any publishers web sites that have set a CPC price equal to or lower than this.

2) On each page view, how does the system decide whether to show a CPC campaign advert or a standard network campaign advert?
Currently if there are no direct CPM/CPC campaigns running on an ad space then it just randomly selects one of the network campaigns - weighted random based on how much is being paid per day by the advertiser. Its not obvious how the system should decide to show a CPC network advert instead - especially as this (in most cases - when it results in no click) means the publisher will lose out on the network campaign pool for that view.

We are working through these issues and will hopefully come up with something soon that will work for everyone Smiley
1) We did this the same way and thinks it's the best way too - if advertisers set max cpc of 0.001, every publisher with <=0.001 CPC displays them and gets payed for each click (with the CPC price of the adspace)
2) It seems that it's hard to mix cpm and cpc network campaigns, so probably you could just divide them into two pools - and if the publisher chooses network cpc campaigns for the time his adspace is unused - all cpc network campaigns could be shown with equal chance. If he chooses the traditional network campaign - it will work the old way. The other way is to let him set a priority (10%-20%-50% or whatever) and based on that to display CPC or standard network.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Ok, I have an update on some changes that we have made today!

New website approval process

Background
Currently too much of our time and effort is going into micro-managing and fraud detection on lots of smaller websites/ad spaces that provide very little benefit to advertisers. In addition we have received quite a bit of feedback from advertisers who feel that the quality of the network is degraded by these websites - and this affects their decisions to start network campaigns.

Our solution
To help maintain the high quality of the Mellow Ads network we have decided to implement a manual approval process for all websites that wish to create ad spaces and display Mellow Ads adverts.
This process is detailed at Website approval guidelines . The overriding aim here is to ensure that advertisers are receiving good value for their campaigns.

With immediate effect all new websites added to the system will first need to be approved (following the above guidelines) before they can create ad spaces.
We will also be going through ALL of the existing websites that are in the system and reviewing them over the next few days (weeks!), again following these same guidelines. Unfortunately this is going to mean that a significant number of existing websites will be rejected and their ad spaces removed. In the short term we realize that this is going to be unpopular with some publishers - but we need to take a long term view which benefits both advertisers and high-quality publishers, if Mellow Ads is going to be successful.
Any publishers who find their website rejected will be informed by email of this and the reasons for the rejection. They will still be able to sign in to the system and withdraw any funds held in their account.

Hope I have given enough details about this, but I'm happy to answer any questions either here or you can contact us about anything by email to [email protected]


I read through the listing of requirements and found that the site I currently have up there isn't going to be a good match. If we're removed, can we make a re-evaluation request at a later date once our site meets all requirements? To me, this would be a huge benefit -- I completely understand why your changes are being made, and I have no qualms with that. I'd just like to know that once we get up to par, we can put in a request somehow (even if this means directly contacting).

Thanks!

Yes, of course. There's no need to contact us directly - just ad your website again and it will be reviewed again Smiley

Good to hear, and thanks!
sr. member
Activity: 305
Merit: 250
Sometimes the ads "break" and go under the frame. After refresh everything is OK, but the first loading sometimes looks like this...



I saw it on other people sites too

Thanks for advising of this.
This is a problem caused by text ads such as the top one (of the three) where the text is too long to fix in the width of the ad space - but because there are no spaces in the text it does not wrap naturally.
We have fixed this now so that the text is just hidden in these circumstances, and the adverts will at least look correct - even if all the text cannot be read.
sr. member
Activity: 305
Merit: 250
Ok, I have an update on some changes that we have made today!

New website approval process

Background
Currently too much of our time and effort is going into micro-managing and fraud detection on lots of smaller websites/ad spaces that provide very little benefit to advertisers. In addition we have received quite a bit of feedback from advertisers who feel that the quality of the network is degraded by these websites - and this affects their decisions to start network campaigns.

Our solution
To help maintain the high quality of the Mellow Ads network we have decided to implement a manual approval process for all websites that wish to create ad spaces and display Mellow Ads adverts.
This process is detailed at Website approval guidelines . The overriding aim here is to ensure that advertisers are receiving good value for their campaigns.

With immediate effect all new websites added to the system will first need to be approved (following the above guidelines) before they can create ad spaces.
We will also be going through ALL of the existing websites that are in the system and reviewing them over the next few days (weeks!), again following these same guidelines. Unfortunately this is going to mean that a significant number of existing websites will be rejected and their ad spaces removed. In the short term we realize that this is going to be unpopular with some publishers - but we need to take a long term view which benefits both advertisers and high-quality publishers, if Mellow Ads is going to be successful.
Any publishers who find their website rejected will be informed by email of this and the reasons for the rejection. They will still be able to sign in to the system and withdraw any funds held in their account.

Hope I have given enough details about this, but I'm happy to answer any questions either here or you can contact us about anything by email to [email protected]


I read through the listing of requirements and found that the site I currently have up there isn't going to be a good match. If we're removed, can we make a re-evaluation request at a later date once our site meets all requirements? To me, this would be a huge benefit -- I completely understand why your changes are being made, and I have no qualms with that. I'd just like to know that once we get up to par, we can put in a request somehow (even if this means directly contacting).

Thanks!

Yes, of course. There's no need to contact us directly - just ad your website again and it will be reviewed again Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1268
In Memory of Zepher
So now the site doesn't accept free domain hosted site as publishers? Oh man Tongue Quite sad actually, but what is the reason for that? Is there too much free domain hosted websites out there? Does the domain matters? :O Anyways just asking, can you advertise on your own site through the CPM/CPC campaigns?

Guess I'll have to stop and the earnings will stay there forever ^^
Free domains are linked with spam a lot of the time due to ease of creation and lack of costs. Since MellowAds wants to stop spam, the first logical step would be to block free domains.
If you're serious about your website, just buy a .pw domain for like $3. It doesn't have to be expensive.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 503
So now the site doesn't accept free domain hosted site as publishers? Oh man Tongue Quite sad actually, but what is the reason for that? Is there too much free domain hosted websites out there? Does the domain matters? :O Anyways just asking, can you advertise on your own site through the CPM/CPC campaigns?

Guess I'll have to stop and the earnings will stay there forever ^^
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Sometimes the ads "break" and go under the frame. After refresh everything is OK, but the first loading sometimes looks like this...



I saw it on other people sites too
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