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legendary
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man it would be nice to have that weekly sunday update strugg...
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Well hello there!
lmao...Remy_5 you certifiable mon ami!!  Grin
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My advice is always the same, if your system time is accurate, but the
command "getinfo", reports for timeoffset a value far to zero, try
to restart your wallet and after a while, check it again.


out of curiosity what would an ideal timeoffset be would that be zero? I was just looking and mine says 22. Thanks

I love the curiosity, I consider it the fuel of progress. Smiley

In an ideal world, all computers would have their time reference perfectly
synchronized between them, so their timeoffset would be exactly zero.

This is not a perfect world, and although there are atomic clocks as a reference
of great precision, and in the operating systems there are tools to keep
synchronized the systems, often they are used very loosely, for example once
a week when the computer has already accumulated a quite offset, or
worst not used at all.

In my case, I have a PC and I forced to resynchronize every 4 hours,
and with a wallet (almost) always active, the present timeoffset of
my wallet is -3.

Synchronize every 4 hours is somewhat exaggerated, but when you want to do
measurements, the first thing to do is to always double check your instrument. Wink

The process that the wallet used to arrive at a time shared, is based on
the timeoffset, and the system to calculate it, said in "few" words
is more or less this:
The wallet when connecting to another peer, exchange information of the
respective time, and each one calculates the relative offset from the other.
If the ip of the other peer has already been seen, nothing is done.
Otherwise, his timeoffset is put in a table, and if the table gets to 200 items,
the oldest item is discarded.
A copy of this table is sorted according to the offset, and it is taken the
value of the central item, and that will be the new timeoffset of the allet.

The heart of this process, it can be found in the function AddTimeData,
it is in the file utils.c, and is used in the standard code of many
different coin wallet.

Finally, some comment lines in the code, already present in some older
versions of bitcoin wallet, would seem to suggest that this process of using
the median time was to be only a temporary stopgap, pending a more precise.

I believe that this system, reasonable, has been designed for networks with
a higher number of peers, in which case the table would be continuously updated.

But IMHO, in a network with few nodes and always the same, I think that shows
its limits and can be easily influenced, or continue to consider data which
can be very outdated.

Restart the wallet is a simple way to clear the table, and acquire new
offsets of other peers. But it can give good result, or bad.

Taking a look at this table in my wallet, online for nearly a week, now
it consists of only 51 elements and values are from -71 to +81,
this is definitely not an ideal world, but it seems that most of the other
wallet has an offset from between -6 and -1 seconds, more reasonable.

So if your wallet shows a timeoffset of 22, and your PC is perfectly
synchronized with the rest of the world's clock, then IMHO probably
should try to restart your wallet.

Sorry if the answer comes... late. Wink


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Here are two diagrams relating to pos dif.
The first you already know, and shows the trend of the last weeks of
the average PosDif, the interval between the blocks, and the
percentages of the blocks that have a time antecedent also to their
previous block.

As you can see there was a little worsening in the last hour, and the
PosDiff is again dropped and with it the interval between the blocks,
now near 11 seconds.



This time the "whale" has gone from a timeOffset very close to zero,
it held this condition for several days, but now it is about to -35 seconds.
Even others have moved, but their movement is less noticeable.

My advice is always the same, if your system time is accurate, but the
command "getinfo", reports for timeoffset a value far to zero, try
to restart your wallet and after a while, check it again.


For those curious, below is another chart type.
The graph shows how many blocks have been generated in a period of 12
hours, and they had a certain timeoffset compared with real time, and
how many were addresses to generate them.



In the top side, there is the trace related to one week ago, on the low side
there are the data related to the last 12 hours.

The isolated peak on the right side is as some have imagined, the small group
of black sheep dispersed  (group A), generating blocks in the future and that
day by day increasingly moves away.


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There is the usual unofficial rich-list.

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And now the top 20 most difference in one week.

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Deep Watch Report  block 2102632 to 2156117 at 2015-10-25 12:31:46 UTC                                     
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The other info... more later.


legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1003
Well, That's Crypto :-\
U know it will be the last day .. Remember when they said Roadmap would be done few months ago .. to me it looks like everything is @ the same stage it was then GitHub hasn't changed nothing has changed just like the % under projects it might be very accurate.
The current price reflects this.
Stuff like 1"u can see the devs accumulating" and 2"top big wallets havent sold" 
1 First if devs slow progress down to a crawl so people lose faith and sell low and then they scoopy up the cheap NAV That's Not a Positive for me.
2 second the Big wallets probably died waiting for something to happen or are at least a sleep from lack of progress.


hehehehehehe  Cool

I love these prices. I am getting fat on NAV  ->  ->  ->  ->  ->  -> -> ->

legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
Well hello there!
@shahim, I don't see an existing shahim username on the dedicated forum and new user registration (via e-mail) does appear to be working.

*Note, social login doesn't work currently as I haven't setup a FB, twitter, or any other API for navcointalk forum yet.

I did register two times. But also got no mail or so?

That's curious it worked great for my friend earlier today.  Did you try checking your SPAM folder?  Can you PM me the e-mail address that you registered under?  Also, are you registering under the same username as you use here?

Today it worked out! Yesterday, I got no mail and nothing.

Perhaps it was my internet connection. I don't know.

thank you!
Hey Shahim, I see that you have activated your account on the forum from the link but have yet to actually login.  Are you having issue(s) with your computer/connection again?
legendary
Activity: 2020
Merit: 1041
Next week will mark the end of October.

I really hope the devs are not going to wait until the very last day and then just do an announcement that says "This is whats coming", like they have done previously.

I must say though, I am really looking forward to the "marketing materials", in the time that it has taken, Im expecting a hollywood movie with a voiceover from a famous hollywood actor and music by hans Zimmer!

I am really hoping I will be pleasantly surprised and will be the first to eat my words if they do finally deliver. but in the back of my mind I can't help but think that all we are going to get is a new percentage change graph that just adds 1% to everything.

please prove me wrong.

U know it will be the last day .. Remember when they said Roadmap would be done few months ago .. to me it looks like everything is @ the same stage it was then GitHub hasn't changed nothing has changed just like the % under projects it might be very accurate.
The current price reflects this.
Stuff like 1"u can see the devs accumulating" and 2"top big wallets havent sold" 
1 First if devs slow progress down to a crawl so people lose faith and sell low and then they scoopy up the cheap NAV That's Not a Positive for me.
2 second the Big wallets probably died waiting for something to happen or are at least a sleep from lack of progress.


sr. member
Activity: 373
Merit: 250
They walk among us...
Next week will mark the end of October.

I really hope the devs are not going to wait until the very last day and then just do an announcement that says "This is whats coming", like they have done previously.

I must say though, I am really looking forward to the "marketing materials", in the time that it has taken, Im expecting a hollywood movie with a voiceover from a famous hollywood actor and music by hans Zimmer!

I am really hoping I will be pleasantly surprised and will be the first to eat my words if they do finally deliver. but in the back of my mind I can't help but think that all we are going to get is a new percentage change graph that just adds 1% to everything.

please prove me wrong.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
someone sell 600k nav on bittrex.  Undecided

And someone bought this 600k;)

Very Lucky bro!  Smiley
hero member
Activity: 849
Merit: 507
someone sell 600k nav on bittrex.  Undecided

And someone bought this 600k;)
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
Well hello there!
@shahim, I don't see an existing shahim username on the dedicated forum and new user registration (via e-mail) does appear to be working.

*Note, social login doesn't work currently as I haven't setup a FB, twitter, or any other API for navcointalk forum yet.

I did register two times. But also got no mail or so?

That's curious it worked great for my friend earlier today.  Did you try checking your SPAM folder?  Can you PM me the e-mail address that you registered under?  Also, are you registering under the same username as you use here?

Today it worked out! Yesterday, I got no mail and nothing.

Perhaps it was my internet connection. I don't know.

thank you!
Glad you got it sorted out shahim. Look forward to seeing you there.

I can see that you activated your account via e-mail link but it doesnt appear as though you've actually logged in yet.  As soon as you do I'll shoot you a friend request and get you setup in the Developers group.

BTW, did you ever get that hosting situation figured out?  Just curious because djselery already created a topic on the issue on the forum here http://navcointalk.org/forum-root/topic/help-shahim-get-a-new-server/
hero member
Activity: 687
Merit: 500
someone sell 600k nav on bittrex.  Undecided

Oh well...at least we are at the top in trexx...
member
Activity: 100
Merit: 10
someone sell 600k nav on bittrex.  Undecided
legendary
Activity: 1082
Merit: 1002
@shahim, I don't see an existing shahim username on the dedicated forum and new user registration (via e-mail) does appear to be working.

*Note, social login doesn't work currently as I haven't setup a FB, twitter, or any other API for navcointalk forum yet.

I did register two times. But also got no mail or so?

That's curious it worked great for my friend earlier today.  Did you try checking your SPAM folder?  Can you PM me the e-mail address that you registered under?  Also, are you registering under the same username as you use here?

Today it worked out! Yesterday, I got no mail and nothing.

Perhaps it was my internet connection. I don't know.

thank you!
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
Well hello there!
@shahim, I don't see an existing shahim username on the dedicated forum and new user registration (via e-mail) does appear to be working.

*Note, social login doesn't work currently as I haven't setup a FB, twitter, or any other API for navcointalk forum yet.

I did register two times. But also got no mail or so?

That's curious it worked great for my friend earlier today.  Did you try checking your SPAM folder?  Can you PM me the e-mail address that you registered under?  Also, are you registering under the same username as you use here?
legendary
Activity: 1082
Merit: 1002
@shahim, I don't see an existing shahim username on the dedicated forum and new user registration (via e-mail) does appear to be working.

*Note, social login doesn't work currently as I haven't setup a FB, twitter, or any other API for navcointalk forum yet.

I did register two times. But also got no mail or so?
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
Quote

My wish for Navajocoin to be only on 1 exchange - for concentrated Trading - I see much more benefits of being just only on Bittrex which is a high volume exchange which gets influenced by the low volume exchanges - how difficult is this to reverse


What? you want to concentrate trading, to gain volume? By, reducing access, visibility, users, volume, accessibility, etc. etc. etc. .... wtf?
Being on multiple exchanges is a good thing, yes arbitrage happens, nbd.
the only thing influencing the price is the current buy and sells, if it was one exchange then this coin would have crashed, but because there is multiple places it is easier to buy in bulk or sell in bulk without monopolizing the market.
more than one exchange is a good thing, monopoly is a boring game.
If anything you should be trying for more exchanges to gain support of new investors.
#bittrexisnotthatbadbutpoloniexisbetter


Great opinion and thanks for taking the time . Good points

Yes to gain Volume and express the real trading value without the influence of a low trading exchange - Correct
Also an exchange with no attention like Alcurex was a bad Idea - the more exchanges the more IT support required.
Navajocoin was even added to Yobit without permission last time  Smiley
Also I think its easy to influence the coin price with the other low volume exchanges unfairly. I think whilst we are still in STARTUP mode we should have only been on 1 exchange. But yeah I get your point. There are good and bad on both side of the argument.

Yes NavajoCoin at full throttle the more exchanges the better.

EDIT : Yes Poloniex is an awesome exchange.  They have everything you want from an Exchange. No bots, chat box. .....great tech support.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1001
Quote

My wish for Navajocoin to be only on 1 exchange - for concentrated Trading - I see much more benefits of being just only on Bittrex which is a high volume exchange which gets influenced by the low volume exchanges - how difficult is this to reverse


What? you want to concentrate trading, to gain volume? By, reducing access, visibility, users, volume, accessibility, etc. etc. etc. .... wtf?
Being on multiple exchanges is a good thing, yes arbitrage happens, nbd.
the only thing influencing the price is the current buy and sells, if it was one exchange then this coin would have crashed, but because there is multiple places it is easier to buy in bulk or sell in bulk without monopolizing the market.
more than one exchange is a good thing, monopoly is a boring game.
If anything you should be trying for more exchanges to gain support of new investors.
#bittrexisnotthatbadbutpoloniexisbetter
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
Anyone else notice that staking has now gone the other way? Im now getting 1/7th of what i was getting before "the fix"  Angry

Devs don't ever reply so maybe remy can say if the block timing issues have changed?

ya, look at the stake weight ... i was getting rewards every 10 to 20 mins before because it was less than 1million, right now im getting rewards every hour due to the current weight of 8.9million.
strugg (our community and pr manager) hasn't been online for over 2 weeks.....

I'm online everyday, the fact that I'm not logging in doesn't mean I'm not around.
I'm checking forum everyday, logging in if I need to post or check message box (getting email notifications).
- Just to clarify.

We're working on fixing block timing issues, shahim and soopy will post an update on that once they get it sorted out Wink
Please stay tuned, we're working behind the scenes
(I know - You wish it would take less time, but oh well - we're the ones actually working and covering all costs, so perhaps at least have patience if You can't help improve the coin)
Cheers Wink

~ Strugg


Project Proposal - Change


How we going with Web Wallet? The question on everyone's mind

Maybe this should be skipped (Web Wallet release) and the Development Team should go straight to introducing Navajocoin Decentralization and MasterNodes, and point ALL resources to Decentralization and MasterNodes instead of splitting the team to different project streams.

The reported wallets issues "block timing" and Remy's reported issues hopefully being fixed by Soppy and Shahim is holding up the web wallet release which is delaying everyhthing elese - which im imagineing and purely my guess

Skipping Web Wallet and going straight for Decentralization and MasterNodes should propell Navajocoin past the competition due to its Anonymous strength and market appeal and take on the paymets business/market sector like the other to be unnamed Crypto Coins. It will also bring a wider audience and more money to the project.

Then introduce Web Wallet and the exciteing Android Wallet to a larger investor base after the above proposell at a later time.

I was thinking with the obvious delays in projects, that no one can hide from and a clear reality has driven the Navajocoin Development Team away from the Navajocoin forum despite complaints from the majority of investors regarding communication this project cycle.
(refering to project timeline)


We have seen Pakage's Decentralization work leap forward - so this seems a logical step.


What you think?
Who would like to see the above steps occur

Now lets move to Github - For those that refer to Github and rely on its progressing makes it look like nothing is happening. Can you explain to me in non IT terms the importance of this. Now with the source not being available publicly (Navajo Code Talkers Technology) is it hard to expose or update Github due to this factor.

My wish for Navajocoin to be only on 1 exchange - for concentrated Trading - I see much more benefits of being just only on Bittrex which is a high volume exchange which gets influenced by the low volume exchanges - how difficult is this to reverse
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