[ANN]🚀 OPTHERIUM🚀 Synergy of Blockchain solutions - page 87.

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Quote from: lumierre on January 14, 2019, 03:43:45 PM

In the second half of 2018 I saw a lot of projects with ready products or beta version of the products. It 2017 and fist half of 2018 the most projects was only with idea.

All these "ready products" and "beta version of the products" in the end are no different from "only with idea". This hints at the essence of the crypto market as a whole.

The project must have not only a ready product but the whole ecosystem: clients, castomers, users. It must be in demand.

But to have this the product must have a lot of advertisement. But advertisement costs money that is why token sale is necessary.

CoffeOfficial

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Quote from: lumierre on January 14, 2019, 03:43:45 PM

In the second half of 2018 I saw a lot of projects with ready products or beta version of the products. It 2017 and fist half of 2018 the most projects was only with idea.

All these "ready products" and "beta version of the products" in the end are no different from "only with idea". This hints at the essence of the crypto market as a whole.

The project must have not only a ready product but the whole ecosystem: clients, castomers, users. It must be in demand.

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Quote from: lylya75 on January 14, 2019, 02:04:33 PM

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“In these market conditions people are not willing to invest, no matter what ICO you have. There is no way you can offer a 300 to 500 percent increase when the market is down 300 and 500 percent. People are losing anyway.”
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Are you seriously? Grin

no market can fall by 300%. Find out the mathematical sense of {%} and how it can change in both directions.

I think that she means that prices have become lower by 3-5 times. Well, of course, the market cannot fall by 300%, it is mathematically impossible Grin

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Quote from: lumierre on January 14, 2019, 03:43:45 PM

In the second half of 2018 I saw a lot of projects with ready products or beta version of the products. It 2017 and fist half of 2018 the most projects was only with idea.

All these "ready products" and "beta version of the products" in the end are no different from "only with idea". This hints at the essence of the crypto market as a whole.

Unfortunately it is. Most finished products do not represent anything special.

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Quote from: evagap on January 14, 2019, 01:39:30 PM

Quote from: upline on January 14, 2019, 01:38:35 AM

Quote from: francavul on January 13, 2019, 01:56:13 PM

Quote from: earthcoin on January 13, 2019, 09:25:52 AM

Who is asking for their money back? Why?

The team is negotiating and trying to resolve the issue with one of the investors who no longer want to wait for the completion of the project and asks for their money back

It is very strange, why first invest and then demand money back. It looks like it's just the machinations of competitors or scammers.

This is not like the machinations of competitors, most likely a person needs money urgently or is not ready for long-term investment.

Just a man decided not to do his own business. He needs to try something else.

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This is a good project to be paused just like that, so if the market will not get up this year, will this project be paused until the market condition really improves even if it happens in 2020, it's better to get it on, get it in exchange and let the market decide on it's fate.

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Quote from: lumierre on January 14, 2019, 03:43:45 PM

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Quote from: upline on January 13, 2019, 03:10:32 AM

Since that time, much has changed, projects have become more qualitative, and investors have become more demanding. Now the necessary amounts are collected only really good projects.

On the contrary.
It seems that there are very few quality projects. It seems that almost all the projects that use ICO from the second half of 2018 to date are hammy or scam.

In the second half of 2018 I saw a lot of projects with ready products or beta version of the products. It 2017 and fist half of 2018 the most projects was only with idea.

Yes, projects have finished products, but they cannot apply them in reality as the areas of activity to which they are directed are not ready for this

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Quote from: upline on January 14, 2019, 01:38:35 AM

Quote from: francavul on January 13, 2019, 01:56:13 PM

Quote from: earthcoin on January 13, 2019, 09:25:52 AM

Who is asking for their money back? Why?

The team is negotiating and trying to resolve the issue with one of the investors who no longer want to wait for the completion of the project and asks for their money back

It is very strange, why first invest and then demand money back. It looks like it's just the machinations of competitors or scammers.

The man says that he is tired of waiting. But in my opinion at the moment all the projects are in the waiting stage.

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Quote from: upline on January 13, 2019, 03:10:32 AM

Since that time, much has changed, projects have become more qualitative, and investors have become more demanding. Now the necessary amounts are collected only really good projects.

On the contrary.
It seems that there are very few quality projects. It seems that almost all the projects that use ICO from the second half of 2018 to date are hammy or scam.

In the second half of 2018 I saw a lot of projects with ready products or beta version of the products. It 2017 and fist half of 2018 the most projects was only with idea.

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Quote from: evagap on January 14, 2019, 01:39:30 PM

Quote from: upline on January 14, 2019, 01:38:35 AM

Quote from: francavul on January 13, 2019, 01:56:13 PM

Quote from: earthcoin on January 13, 2019, 09:25:52 AM

Who is asking for their money back? Why?

The team is negotiating and trying to resolve the issue with one of the investors who no longer want to wait for the completion of the project and asks for their money back

It is very strange, why first invest and then demand money back. It looks like it's just the machinations of competitors or scammers.

This is not like the machinations of competitors, most likely a person needs money urgently or is not ready for long-term investment.

Panic and hasty decisions are a bad adviser, for example, this story resembles a not entirely serious attitude on the part of the investor, first he invested money, then he changed his mind.

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Crypto investors must be very patient. The situation can change in one year of may be more. But now more and more companies use blockchain or study how to use blockchain and blockhain opportunities. The demand in blockchan is growing.

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Investment in Crypto still hot as Markets Gyrate

“We postponed the token sale because of the market conditions,” said Beck.

“In these market conditions people are not willing to invest, no matter what ICO you have. There is no way you can offer a 300 to 500 percent increase when the market is down 300 and 500 percent. People are losing anyway.”

Read the full article here: https://medium.com/moondockhq/investment-in-crypto-still-hot-as-markets-gyrate-da39108ad72

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CoffeOfficial

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Quote from: upline on January 14, 2019, 01:38:35 AM

Quote from: francavul on January 13, 2019, 01:56:13 PM

Quote from: earthcoin on January 13, 2019, 09:25:52 AM

Who is asking for their money back? Why?

The team is negotiating and trying to resolve the issue with one of the investors who no longer want to wait for the completion of the project and asks for their money back

It is very strange, why first invest and then demand money back. It looks like it's just the machinations of competitors or scammers.

Market change and people change their opinion. I think if you are not sure do not invest not to change the opinion.

evagap

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Quote from: upline on January 14, 2019, 01:38:35 AM

Quote from: francavul on January 13, 2019, 01:56:13 PM

Quote from: earthcoin on January 13, 2019, 09:25:52 AM

Who is asking for their money back? Why?

The team is negotiating and trying to resolve the issue with one of the investors who no longer want to wait for the completion of the project and asks for their money back

It is very strange, why first invest and then demand money back. It looks like it's just the machinations of competitors or scammers.

This is not like the machinations of competitors, most likely a person needs money urgently or is not ready for long-term investment.

upline

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●Social Crypto Trading●

Quote from: francavul on January 13, 2019, 01:56:13 PM

Quote from: earthcoin on January 13, 2019, 09:25:52 AM

Who is asking for their money back? Why?

The team is negotiating and trying to resolve the issue with one of the investors who no longer want to wait for the completion of the project and asks for their money back

It is very strange, why first invest and then demand money back. It looks like it's just the machinations of competitors or scammers.

CoffeOfficial

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Quote from: upline on January 13, 2019, 03:10:32 AM

Quote from: Enyanha on January 12, 2019, 02:23:29 PM

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Quote from: francavul on January 11, 2019, 03:27:39 PM

In popular projects due to a large audience, scammers have more opportunities to cheat and this attracts them.

Controversial statement. In large groups of telegrams there are enough experienced people who can quickly recognize the fraudster and warn others. If the project is scam, then such people may not be in the project group. In this case, people will pay for their mistakes.

Now is not 2017 when people invested in all the project without any checking the information. Now people invest more careful, they check all the resourses and not only advertisement. 2017 gave a big experience in investing.

Since that time, much has changed, projects have become more qualitative, and investors have become more demanding. Now the necessary amounts are collected only really good projects.

I think it is very good for the intrustry of blockchain that survives the best one.

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Quote from: lylya75 on January 13, 2019, 02:33:28 PM

Quote from: SLVM on January 13, 2019, 06:48:18 AM

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There is an interesting. The forum is a good place to effect the team of many projects. Now we will wait for a post from SLVM about resolving the problem.

Nothing solved till now.
Just got threaten mails from a unknown guy Vadim Ivanenko, that I must stop posting on the internet or they will go "to international court because I damage the deal of the company" !
And I'm really "scared"
My opinion is that
they can not manage a simple payment,
or
they don't want to reimbourse the OUT clients ! Both are deceptive.
ps strange is that the guy try to contact me from a phone number from Ukraine !!!

It is not strange. The team of Optherium is international and the person who is responsible to solve this problem is from Ukraine.

I think that if it will be scam nobody will call you from personal mobile telephone and tried to solve the problem. It shows that the team of Optherium work good.

lylya75

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Quote from: SLVM on January 13, 2019, 06:48:18 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

There is an interesting. The forum is a good place to effect the team of many projects. Now we will wait for a post from SLVM about resolving the problem.

Nothing solved till now.
Just got threaten mails from a unknown guy Vadim Ivanenko, that I must stop posting on the internet or they will go "to international court because I damage the deal of the company" !
And I'm really "scared"
My opinion is that
they can not manage a simple payment,
or
they don't want to reimbourse the OUT clients ! Both are deceptive.
ps strange is that the guy try to contact me from a phone number from Ukraine !!!

It is not strange. The team of Optherium is international and the person who is responsible to solve this problem is from Ukraine.

francavul

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Quote from: earthcoin on January 13, 2019, 09:25:52 AM

Who is asking for their money back? Why?

The team is negotiating and trying to resolve the issue with one of the investors who no longer want to wait for the completion of the project and asks for their money back

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Quote from: dufftricro on January 13, 2019, 09:25:13 AM

Here only one investor does not want to wait and asks for his money back. I think that the best solution would be to give him his money, so this will not affect the reputation of the project.

Who is asking for their money back? Why?

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