Topic: [ANN] PoC Consortium Stage 1: BURST (Read 11664 times)

=> STAGE 2

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/announcing-the-poc-consortium-stage-2-the-burst-dymaxion-2653474

Locking this thread

The forums and the discord are more in use.

https://burstforum.net/
https://www.burstnation.com/wbb/
https://forums.getburst.net/
https://discord.gg/qNsQMS3

Never heard someone complaining about PoCC so I wouldn't call it takeover.

Thank alot for pump!

didn't know the existence of this thread, is this an community takeover or how must i see this?

Kind regards,

Pretty impressive work. Seems you saved the project.

" I mean, when have you ever heard the last time about a partnership between the US Dollar and Exxon?"

 

impatiently waiting 

One of the PoCC's first statements addressed towards the "Burst community" was: "We owe this community nothing" and we always saw the bigger picture outside the "Burst community bubble".

Also, it should be clear by now, how our position regarding miners is.
Once stripped from the civil warlords, ankle-biters and do-nothings, Burst has a very nice and engaged community to bootstrap with.
It's clear, that the current Burst community will be a minority soon.

Everyone else (the future majority) has ~ 24 days time (as of this writing) to catch some hints. https://dymaxion.burst.cryptoguru.org/

Rico666, but from a general perspective, is the BFA big news if you recalibrate your own expectations to what the general community's expectations are?

I say general community because we need Burst's community own to grow if it wants to go somewhere and become something.

I have to fully agree with d5000 here. These synthetic - forced - announced partnerships are often a mere PR vehicle. As such, they constantly fail to reach significant momentum.

True momentum is not gained by these artificials, but by genuine "best fit" usage. Meaning: when the solution a coin provides is best for someone to use it, he will use it and it will more likely result in something of true market significance, than these fake partnerships vaporware.

Therefore, the PoCC has no intention to make this sort of announcements or form this kind of artificial "partnerships". We have a plan, you might even say a strategy. Everyone - be it individuals, companies, institutions - is welcome to use the tools we will provide for their projects and we will work hard to make them as good as we possibly can so they are of generic use.

These nonsense-partnerships often start and end with nonsense protocol extensions/bloat, just because one of the partners requires this special "AMAZON_PROTOCOL_EXTENSION_A" or "EBAY_PROTOCOL_EXTENSION_B_IF_NOT_CRAIGSLIST_EXTENSION_C_PRESENT".

We never would hurt Burst with something short-sighted like that.
Instead, we would like to offer a car in an era of carriages.

Just a little rant:

Sh!tcoin culture - which expects this kind of announcements - is ... sh!tty.
These "partnerships" often are absolute nonsense. I didn't hear from any of them to be of really serious relevance, not even those by big platforms like Ethereum.
And the listings on exchanges are regarded as "big news" because people that want to get rich quick via Pump and Dumps. After the final dump they are out again.

If altcoins want to be more than sh!tcoins, then they should leave behind this sh!tty culture. And I think Burst is on a good way.

Some concrete examples of "big news" would be a partnership with a tech company like the news about Stellar and IBM. Others would be being listed in the top Asian exchanges like Bitflyer and Bithumb.

"Big news" doesn't mean confining it in the technical aspects of the platform but also the practical aspects that bring cash inflows to the cryptocurrency.

Burst is the first PoC coin and the first to have smart contracts and cross atomic swaps, but that did not bring it "to the moon".

I am still missing any concrete examples what "more" people out there expect. What is considered "big news" "out there".
Because if people do not really know and just "expect more" without being able to pinpoint it, then there is no way to satisfy these people.
Most are like kids who expect an even shinier toy, an even faster gaming computer, without being able to make sensible use of any of it.

What I am afraid of, is that the news - once really "big enough" - won't even be understood. For a while at least.

I like that quote lol. But most of the people's expections are calibrated so high these days because of all the promises and the marketing done by the multimillion $ ICOs. Whether they reach their goals or not, they dont care as long as they get their millions.

If Ethereum was made today, do you think it could compete in the scenario we have today? Maybe not. The competition is tougher and the expectations are higher.

Having said that, the developers should adapt and also recalibrate on what they consider as "big news".

If the BFA is really big news then great, but if its not then be careful, it might disappoint.

Ok - let's analyze the "Android wallet situation". One month after announcing the PoCC (where we also announced the mobile wallet was in development), our Android wallet was ready to be published.

At that time - September, 11th 2017 - it really was big news for Burst: There was only the original, slightly dysfunctional and bloated wallet from Iceburst and the mobile wallet from BurstNation which was a) merely another frontend to their online wallet (hard coded in as backend) and b) you needed to register to use the wallet and c) the design was/is like 90ties...

So yes: from an objective point of view it was big news. Yet after presenting the mobile wallet, there were TWO - in words: TWO - guys who were disappointed/pissed: https://www.burstcoin.ist/2017/09/18/on-big-news/

My question: "What did those people expect?" was never answered.

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So here's what disappoints me:

• One man - not even a developer - says he believes Burst core algorithm is broken. Mouth-to-mouth propaganda makes of this "core developers say Burst core is broken". Of all people - pinkflower - you should know best, because you asked me for clarification and I gave it here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22268290
• Same with the mobile wallet: Two people are pissed, because they expected "more" - what this "more" should have been? No one knows. No one says. Yet - somehow - we make from this "the community expected something more(!!!)"

So I suggest you (as in: you all to whom it concerns) get your expectations and memory calibrated, because it's really pathological as of now.

It cannot be made a problem of the PoCC, if some people have serious issues with the dopamine glands in their brain.

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Having said that, let me help you with the calibration:

Android wallet September 11th 2017 was big News at the time. It wouldn't be big News today.

Yeah - we have the iOS version of the wallet ready for over a month, but Gay-Nazi-Apple (henceforth: GNA) is blocking it (as they do with basically all Alt-Wallets - see e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/NEO/comments/7dvpz5/o3_wallet_being_removed_by_apple_we_need_your_help/). But we will deal with GNA the right way. So when that is available in the GNA App Store, it will be "Good News", but no big news.

And the BFA... well ... quote from the group preparing the Ann:

First of all, I would like to thank you for your patience, I know you're a busy man.

Missing the PoCC's tweet on my second look is my fault. Sorry.

Thirdly, maybe the BFA might be something like the Android wallet situation, wherein the community expected something more but ended up having something in slight disappointment.

NEO also suffered the same situation. They announced something big was coming, but it was only a hacking contest or something.

https://twitter.com/PoC_Consortium/status/935040430273593346

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We have not removed a single tweet ever - so I do care to reply to suggest you improve your Twitter skills.

I also would like to know what exactly you mean by "another disappointment"?

Great Job POCc keep up the good work!
One for the Coin
One for the Devs
and...
One for All.

The tweet about a BFA, assuming it stands for Big Fucking Announcement, from the PoCC's Twitter account was removed a day after. Why? Did the PoCC fear that it would end in another disappointment or was the plan behind it canceled or something? Rico666, care to reply?

Disabling support for GPU solved the problem, thanks @rico666 to point me in the right direction.

Cheers

Ok, found the setting to enable GPU, and disabled, i will see on next restart tomorrow. thank for the moment, i will update on the situation.

Cheers