What's going on with PPT? It's now $68!!
huge pump!!! someone knows something 
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What's going on with PPT? It's now $68!!
Just add the PXT token in your Myetherwallet using the token address 0xc14830E53aA344E8c14603A91229A0b925b0B262 . Use decimal 8. Worked for me.
that worked for me too
when I saw ppt price after ny party, I thought that it was the best present. where is all dudes who said that ppt is scam?
Have anyone else than me still not received any pxt tokens?
So I think most of us are asking what is the value of PPT when measured by traditional means. I'm going to take a stab. I appreciate comments on my ramblings and rough math:
For example, if you can buy a share/token for $1 and earn 3% per year, what will an investor pay for that stock plus $.03 annual earnings? 10x earnings is probably not unreasonable, so probably about $.30 give or take.
We'll ignore a supply/demand imbalance in the auction which would presumably also affect the interest rate and assume we can earn 2% monthly interest (24% annual interest)reliably. Let's also assume that you can use 80% of the current PPT market value to buy an invoice. For example, an $8k invoice would require $10k of PPT.
PPT is about $46 at the moment. 24% of 80% of $46 is $8.80.
Using a Dividend Discount Model with a Discount Rate of 2%, the calculated value per "share" is $440.
The interesting thing is that as the value of the token increases, the value of the earnings increase at the same rate. So a $440 PPT token would supposedly yield $88 annually. This then yields a token dividend valuation of $4408. So there is no limit to what PPT is worth except the actual ability to actually earn 2%.
The ability to earn 2% monthly interest depends on the supply of invoices and auction conditions achieving a consistent 2% monthly interest rate.
Not enough invoices, lower interest rate results in lower returns. Too many invoices results in higher returns.
The DDM doesn't take into account additional value due to anticipated increase in token price.
There are 37M tokens, so to achieve a $1000 token price, each token needs to be able to earn $19.20 interest annually. This requires a supply of $3.7B of invoices available that you can earn 2% monthly on.
That isn't to say that the DDM is accurate of valid, just one attempt at valuing PPT. Once people are able to see what real returns look like, and if they are close to these assumptions then $1000+ is no problem.
For example, if you can buy a share/token for $1 and earn 3% per year, what will an investor pay for that stock plus $.03 annual earnings? 10x earnings is probably not unreasonable, so probably about $.30 give or take.
We'll ignore a supply/demand imbalance in the auction which would presumably also affect the interest rate and assume we can earn 2% monthly interest (24% annual interest)reliably. Let's also assume that you can use 80% of the current PPT market value to buy an invoice. For example, an $8k invoice would require $10k of PPT.
PPT is about $46 at the moment. 24% of 80% of $46 is $8.80.
Using a Dividend Discount Model with a Discount Rate of 2%, the calculated value per "share" is $440.
The interesting thing is that as the value of the token increases, the value of the earnings increase at the same rate. So a $440 PPT token would supposedly yield $88 annually. This then yields a token dividend valuation of $4408. So there is no limit to what PPT is worth except the actual ability to actually earn 2%.
The ability to earn 2% monthly interest depends on the supply of invoices and auction conditions achieving a consistent 2% monthly interest rate.
Not enough invoices, lower interest rate results in lower returns. Too many invoices results in higher returns.
The DDM doesn't take into account additional value due to anticipated increase in token price.
There are 37M tokens, so to achieve a $1000 token price, each token needs to be able to earn $19.20 interest annually. This requires a supply of $3.7B of invoices available that you can earn 2% monthly on.
That isn't to say that the DDM is accurate of valid, just one attempt at valuing PPT. Once people are able to see what real returns look like, and if they are close to these assumptions then $1000+ is no problem.
I think you're on the right track, but I see it a little differently. Because the amount you earn increases with price of the token, you can't really use a DDM approach. As you said, the constraining factor is the volume of available invoices.
So the market cap of the tokens should be approximate to the volume of invoices available. It'll be interesting to see what happens if there aren't enough invoices available, but my guess is that it'll result in some sell pressure so the token market cap doesn't ever go significantly above the invoice volume. There are some other factors at play, but that's the primary driver in my opinion.
That leads to the question of how much of the factoring market can they capture, as well as how much larger will the market grow now that more small businesses will have access to this type of financing.
I published a valuation model in the Telegram group that allows you to play with various assumptions, but that's the approach I used. I can see it going as high as $684 by the end of 2019 under the right circumstances.
Please keep in mind that this is not investment advice, so please do your own due diligence.
I've got my pxt tokens from the airdrop (thanks populous). Can anyone tell me are the pxt tokens going to replace the ppt token or is pxt a new token alongside ppt?
PXT is a new token separate from PPT. They will be publishing a whitepaper for it shortly.
Populous will be providing a form that needs to be filled out if you didn't receive the airdrop but you think you were eligible.
No word yet on when it will be available though.
No word yet on when it will be available though.
I should point out that you're only eligible if you held tokens as of the November 4th snapshot date and continued to hold through the December 31st airdrop date. If you sold after November 4th, you aren't eligible to receive the airdrop.
The form is really to identify people that may have moved their coins to another wallet.
Missing out on an airdropped tokens as well any idea when they will release the form which we have to fill to get PXT tokens?
They haven't said when the form will be put out, but my guess is that it should be available soon.
I've got my pxt tokens from the airdrop (thanks populous). Can anyone tell me are the pxt tokens going to replace the ppt token or is pxt a new token alongside ppt?
yes please. can somebody clarify this. im also confused about this. but on my own understanding, PXT is different from PPT. i dont think it is made to replace PPT.
I've got my pxt tokens from the airdrop (thanks populous). Can anyone tell me are the pxt tokens going to replace the ppt token or is pxt a new token alongside ppt?
So I think most of us are asking what is the value of PPT when measured by traditional means. I'm going to take a stab. I appreciate comments on my ramblings and rough math:
For example, if you can buy a share/token for $1 and earn 3% per year, what will an investor pay for that stock plus $.03 annual earnings? 10x earnings is probably not unreasonable, so probably about $.30 give or take.
We'll ignore a supply/demand imbalance in the auction which would presumably also affect the interest rate and assume we can earn 2% monthly interest (24% annual interest)reliably. Let's also assume that you can use 80% of the current PPT market value to buy an invoice. For example, an $8k invoice would require $10k of PPT.
PPT is about $46 at the moment. 24% of 80% of $46 is $8.80.
Using a Dividend Discount Model with a Discount Rate of 2%, the calculated value per "share" is $440.
The interesting thing is that as the value of the token increases, the value of the earnings increase at the same rate. So a $440 PPT token would supposedly yield $88 annually. This then yields a token dividend valuation of $4408. So there is no limit to what PPT is worth except the actual ability to actually earn 2%.
The ability to earn 2% monthly interest depends on the supply of invoices and auction conditions achieving a consistent 2% monthly interest rate.
Not enough invoices, lower interest rate results in lower returns. Too many invoices results in higher returns.
The DDM doesn't take into account additional value due to anticipated increase in token price.
There are 37M tokens, so to achieve a $1000 token price, each token needs to be able to earn $19.20 interest annually. This requires a supply of $3.7B of invoices available that you can earn 2% monthly on.
That isn't to say that the DDM is accurate of valid, just one attempt at valuing PPT. Once people are able to see what real returns look like, and if they are close to these assumptions then $1000+ is no problem.
For example, if you can buy a share/token for $1 and earn 3% per year, what will an investor pay for that stock plus $.03 annual earnings? 10x earnings is probably not unreasonable, so probably about $.30 give or take.
We'll ignore a supply/demand imbalance in the auction which would presumably also affect the interest rate and assume we can earn 2% monthly interest (24% annual interest)reliably. Let's also assume that you can use 80% of the current PPT market value to buy an invoice. For example, an $8k invoice would require $10k of PPT.
PPT is about $46 at the moment. 24% of 80% of $46 is $8.80.
Using a Dividend Discount Model with a Discount Rate of 2%, the calculated value per "share" is $440.
The interesting thing is that as the value of the token increases, the value of the earnings increase at the same rate. So a $440 PPT token would supposedly yield $88 annually. This then yields a token dividend valuation of $4408. So there is no limit to what PPT is worth except the actual ability to actually earn 2%.
The ability to earn 2% monthly interest depends on the supply of invoices and auction conditions achieving a consistent 2% monthly interest rate.
Not enough invoices, lower interest rate results in lower returns. Too many invoices results in higher returns.
The DDM doesn't take into account additional value due to anticipated increase in token price.
There are 37M tokens, so to achieve a $1000 token price, each token needs to be able to earn $19.20 interest annually. This requires a supply of $3.7B of invoices available that you can earn 2% monthly on.
That isn't to say that the DDM is accurate of valid, just one attempt at valuing PPT. Once people are able to see what real returns look like, and if they are close to these assumptions then $1000+ is no problem.
I'm sure this year's ppt price will reach $ 500, so I will continue to buy PPT even though the price is almost $ 50, and we expect nothing negative about PPT.
If anyone can reach $500 in such a short period it's POPULOUS this is probably one of the best projects out there right now.
Populous will be providing a form that needs to be filled out if you didn't receive the airdrop but you think you were eligible.
No word yet on when it will be available though.
No word yet on when it will be available though.
I should point out that you're only eligible if you held tokens as of the November 4th snapshot date and continued to hold through the December 31st airdrop date. If you sold after November 4th, you aren't eligible to receive the airdrop.
The form is really to identify people that may have moved their coins to another wallet.
Missing out on an airdropped tokens as well any idea when they will release the form which we have to fill to get PXT tokens?
I'm sure this year's ppt price will reach $ 500, so I will continue to buy PPT even though the price is almost $ 50, and we expect nothing negative about PPT.
Populous will be providing a form that needs to be filled out if you didn't receive the airdrop but you think you were eligible.
No word yet on when it will be available though.
No word yet on when it will be available though.
I should point out that you're only eligible if you held tokens as of the November 4th snapshot date and continued to hold through the December 31st airdrop date. If you sold after November 4th, you aren't eligible to receive the airdrop.
The form is really to identify people that may have moved their coins to another wallet.
Populous will be providing a form that needs to be filled out if you didn't receive the airdrop but you think you were eligible.
No word yet on when it will be available though.
No word yet on when it will be available though.
Hello, why did not I add the tokens of the XBR? Who can I contact to get my tokens?
I too still havent received my PXT or XBR or XBRL tokens i have tried the original contact address mentioned
https://ethplorer.io/address/0xc14830e53aa344e8c14603a91229a0b925b0b262
and this contact address
https://ethplorer.io/address/0x2360ac7709057ea3d455d1caf13dc63913c64cb5
both of which have PXT tokens
does anyone know which is the official contact address and in MEW is the symbol PXT XBR or XBRL i have tried all variations and cant get my airdop token to appear. I purchased my PPT in August so am well within the snapshop deadline.
TIA
Hello, why did not I add the tokens of the XBR? Who can I contact to get my tokens?
PXT tradeable on ED: https://etherdelta.com/#0xc14830e53aa344e8c14603a91229a0b925b0b262-ETH
One trade right now at about $12 for 200 XBR 2 hours ago.
Not bad if the $12 price holds up.
One trade right now at about $12 for 200 XBR 2 hours ago.
Not bad if the $12 price holds up.
I would like to know all details regarding XBR token, what's the Populous team plane for the XBR token?
PXT tradeable on ED: https://etherdelta.com/#0xc14830e53aa344e8c14603a91229a0b925b0b262-ETH
One trade right now at about $12 for 200 XBR 2 hours ago.
Not bad if the $12 price holds up.
One trade right now at about $12 for 200 XBR 2 hours ago.
Not bad if the $12 price holds up.
I would like to know all details regarding XBR token, what's the Populous team plane for the XBR token?
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