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What is the ICO price and when is the coin going to be in market. Which exchange is the coin will be listed.

The ICO is now at pre-pre-pre sale stage and you need to send me a PM with a private key to an ETH address containing at least 200 ETH to join.
I will send you the token exclusively right after I successfully authenticated your private key.
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Very likely this Luxure Global Citizen is just another scam, either operated by the same group of people (Steve involved) or different group of people (Steve not involved).

Given a lot of the misleading information they produce which is similar to populous. I would say not impossible.

If that is indeed true, then I don't think the Adeyemi boys are working alone.
I will have to suspect they belong to a much larger group of scam syndicate working together to commit fraud.
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What is the ICO price and when is the coin going to be in market. Which exchange is the coin will be listed.
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Unfortunately my country "banned" medium.com.
So I have to use proxy site to read.
And that proxy site does not show the photos, so I have no idea of whatever the pictures on display.
Nevertheless, when Populous announced a "$1 billion deal" was the time my gut started to give very bad feeling.
Of course the bad feeling persisted stronger with meeting China's richest man, with airdrop of free XBRL token, etc etc.
Announcing a deal with Luxure with undisclosed amount is worlds apart from announcing the same deal with $1 billion dollar figure.
The former chooses to be transparent.
The latter chooses to be hyping up sentiment.
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Very likely this Luxure Global Citizen is just another scam, either operated by the same group of people (Steve involved) or different group of people (Steve not involved).

Given a lot of the misleading information they produce which is similar to populous. I would say not impossible.
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In fact none of these amounts add up at all? am I missing something ?
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Very likely this Luxure Global Citizen is just another scam, either operated by the same group of people (Steve involved) or different group of people (Steve not involved).
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https://medium.com/bitpopulous/populous-update-brace-yourselves-the-beta-is-coming-9926ef1acc9f

Have a look at the LGC invoice in the post. There is a number of troubling things. So much so I fell like maybe im wrong. There seems to be a number in the quantity column when i would have thought it would just be a 1. The comer is also in the wrong spot in that amount. Commers are not used in any other amount on that invoice.

The invoice is also extremely simple for a Lambo and you'd expect more detail for such a big purchase.

Nico, might come out and say well that wasn't a real invoice but to me seem to portray it is. From what i know about the big scams fake invoices are normally a big red flag.
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my advise to you guys is go an see the TV show "American Greed" . Ive watch every season and quickly you get to understand the forumula of a lot of scams. This follows a very similar pattern some of them very simple and ran for years. GOOGLE "tom Petters" thats just one of the top of my head. I consider myself an expert in scams. Ive read alot of the books from enron to books about worldcom. To the Bernie Madoff scam. This certainly has alot of the red flags you typically see.

For those who think "why wouldn't he just take the ICO money and run". Scammers don't think like that. The biggest pay day for nico is to unlock those 10mil coins and sell them. Even then let the project die off and start another one. Building the platform to a basic level with delayas will get him there.

THe constant lies about deal and the dishonesty surround the LGC deal. Fishy looking invoices from that deal. Alot of statement from that deal don't add up.

LGC: said the statement was unauthorized however they never corrected at the time. tThe invoice from LGC that populous produced was clearly fake and had commers in the wrong spots. Nico has a quesrtionable past. Delays that clearly where known about well before the date. Nico's likedin profile says he was running companies while clearly injail.

People in the bounty program getting ripped off. A string of broken businesses. The list could go on. All this stuff isn't the stuff of a legitimate operation.

The biggest red flag, even if the LGC deal was real, is that it was only for 10% of the invoices as mentioned in the link below. Searching the companies house database will show that this company has under a million in assets.  The announcent ppt made was that it was a $1 billion deal. No way possible.

https://news.bitcoin.com/pr-luxure-global-citizen-statement-luxury-rewards-platform-for-the-worlds-most-prestigious-brands/
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I never got the chance to look at the LGC invoice.
Where can I look up for this stuff and have a study at it myself?
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my advise to you guys is go an see the TV show "American Greed" . Ive watch every season and quickly you get to understand the forumula of a lot of scams. This follows a very similar pattern some of them very simple and ran for years. GOOGLE "tom Petters" thats just one of the top of my head. I consider myself an expert in scams. Ive read alot of the books from enron to books about worldcom. To the Bernie Madoff scam. This certainly has alot of the red flags you typically see.

For those who think "why wouldn't he just take the ICO money and run". Scammers don't think like that. The biggest pay day for nico is to unlock those 10mil coins and sell them. Even then let the project die off and start another one. Building the platform to a basic level with delayas will get him there.

THe constant lies about deal and the dishonesty surround the LGC deal. Fishy looking invoices from that deal. Alot of statement from that deal don't add up.

LGC: said the statement was unauthorized however they never corrected at the time. tThe invoice from LGC that populous produced was clearly fake and had commers in the wrong spots. Nico has a quesrtionable past. Delays that clearly where known about well before the date. Nico's likedin profile says he was running companies while clearly injail.

People in the bounty program getting ripped off. A string of broken businesses. The list could go on. All this stuff isn't the stuff of a legitimate operation.
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Yeah shouldn't even waste time on dorkie anymore he's clearly a paid fuddster,

 tldr is an understatement,   I would rather die than read anything from a paid HIVE shill

I see so many negative posts mentioning HIVE in ppt forums. I was wondering why so decided to check them out.  Saw that they doubled in price the last week while ppt lost 50%.   No wonder why so many haters. They are in FEAR!
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Yeah shouldn't even waste time on dorkie anymore he's clearly a paid fuddster,

 tldr is an understatement,   I would rather die than read anything from a paid HIVE shill
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Hi again Dorkie.  Smiley Tldr.
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I said:
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The easiest ICO scam is to raise funds and then disappear with the funds. Nico did not do this.

You said:
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I disagree.

Now you say:
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I am sorry to say this, but you are quite............. not smart.

1. A scam that is longer term will be harder to operate.
2. A scam that is shorter term will be easier to operate.
3. Bitconnect was not operated to be short-term.

Go meditate on the 3 points above until you reach enlightenment.
While you're sitting at your computer thinking about how smart you are, why don't YOU go meditate on your own contradiction?

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I believe they are not eyeing for $10 mil.
I suspect they are eyeing for multi hundreds of million to a few billion.
Give Nico a little credit. Again, in this day and age, how would one steal $100M or more in a high profile way such as this and manage to live it up somewhere fairly pleasant? I don't think it can be done. The *best* someone like Nico could do is take a few million, buy a modest home in some semi-rural South American town or some island and live out the rest of his life without working. No one can pull of the kind of scam you're talking about and actually enjoy the money with mansions, fancy cars, yachts, etc.

See, it seems you don't want to use the logic that you're such a big fan of and look at the big picture.

It's not enough to take a few elements of doubt and create a whole narrative about fraud and scams unless the other pieces of the puzzle fit. If PPT is a scam it is a well thought out one. Scams in general are pretty simple in concept, but to pull one off you need not only to execute the scam itself but engineer an exit and a way to enjoy the spoils. No one has yet to propose a viable theory for the scam itself (since it's clear $10M+ wasn't "enough" or the exit). Meditate on that.

Did I not told you to go meditate on my 3 points until you understand?
Why is this still a big challenge for you to do?

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The easiest ICO scam is to raise funds and then disappear with the funds. Nico did not do this.
And that's very fucking stupid.
You implied that Nico did not do this, and thus he is not a scam.
Huh, what?
So pray tell what is the hardest ICO scam?

You take offense when I suggested you to meditate for enlightenment, but that's exactly what you are supposed to do.
Most of your comments reflect your ignorance, but you never realize it.

Update:
You talked as if you are some expert with industry experience in scam operation, when in fact you are not.
How a scam should or will proceed to be, is not for you to judge.
You don't go around telling people how a scam should be like.
There are multiple ways a scam can be carried out and end up.
"I don't think it can be done." - I don't think you can even think.

Update #2:
Here's another point for you to meditate on until you reach enlightenment:
Ask yourself why do you keep giving Steve Nico 100% of the benefit of the doubt?

To be sincere and honest with you, I sincerely and honestly do not see why such a behavior of yours can be considered rational.
I don't remember ever seeing even a single comment from you questioning the credibility of Steve Nico ever.
$1 bil Luxure deal? Great!
$1 bil Luxure deal off? No problem!
Airdrop of free worthless token? Great!
Past conviction for fraud for several years? No problem!
And many other problems? What problem? I don't see any problem. I only see greatness everywhere.
I think you have deep emotional attachment to Populous and Steve Nico to the point of having blind faith.
Otherwise, I will have to assume you are simply a very very stupid person.
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jesus christ.....just found the populous thread and cant believe what I see....how the hell do this dorkie dude have time to eat, sleep or shit...between this and his 10000 word ramblings on veritaseum thread I would think he never leaves the house

Yeah the other night he was freaking out like kurt eichenwald. I think he is some bankster tbh
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Life is toxic...CHUG IT!!
jesus christ.....just found the populous thread and cant believe what I see....how the hell do this dorkie dude have time to eat, sleep or shit...between this and his 10000 word ramblings on veritaseum thread I would think he never leaves the house
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I don't always drink...
I've been in PPT since the ICO.  Then came the EtherDelta scare so I moved my PPT to another wallet address in December.

So here comes Populous announcing that they are going to airdrop PXT for all the holders of PPT.  (this is where I get f*cked.)

Yep, I moved the PPT before their airdrop date and and after the "hold" date, just because the ether addresses was used frequently on ED.  So I kindly send an email to Populous explaining - no response.  Then I see their twitter info on how to claim PXT, etc.  I do so - still no response.  I repeat - still no response.  Now I hear they are removing the claim form.  Oh, well, I guess I don't rate.

I realize that the PXT likely isn't worth much, but dammit!  It's just the concept of being told one thing and then experiencing something else.

So I read what I hope is FUD on this forum thread but my experience is screaming to pay attention to not what they say, but what they do!

Populous, I'm pissed. 
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Just to clarify, myself (and others in this thread) are not calling 'scam' - *some* of the posts here are but not all. And I do believe that some of the negative posts are from the competition, no doubt in my mind about that.

The point I was making (and others) is that whilst there is no sign of wrong-doing, at the very least, there is a corporate governance issue which needs to be addressed. It won't go away.

None of the subsequent replies appear to be 'playing-the-ball' on this and are instead trying to play-the-player.

And FYI - you don't need to execute an exit from a scam or ponzi (again, not proposing PPT is such) if the scheme becomes so big, profitable and dare I say it 'un-touchable' there is absolutely no need for an exit. The biggest and best schemes littered down history had no exit plan, they just keep on going until there is an 'event'.

Taking a risk based approach to investment you could argue, if the supposition in the steem video is correct (and it has not been proven that it is), that the risk of such a future 'event' is far higher for PPT than it otherwise should be. This is what good governance helps protects investors from.

The will be no change of Management whatsoever, no usurping going there buddy, unlucky me old mucca!
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