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Topic: [ANN] [POW] [XHV] Haven Protocol - untraceable payments x stable value storage - page 31. (Read 71459 times)

newbie
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Hi guys! I’m new to XHV. I can see there’s a mention of smart contract layer being built but there’s no mention of the estimated time on the road map. So is there any estimate so far at all? Cheers!
newbie
Activity: 98
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Why total hash rate not equal total worker hash rate ?

There is some algo that calculate difficulty/hashrate using BLOCK time. 1-2-3 fast blocks in network= diff/hashrate goin up. Loong blocks in a row - diff /hashrate goin DOWN.
newbie
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Why total hash rate not equal total worker hash rate ?
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
i can mine cryptonight and cryptonight-v7 but i cannot mine cryptonight-heavy

I use XMR STAK for NVIDIA.
newbie
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you guys probably already know this but thought I'd mention it in case.  Bittrex just requested more POW coins to apply.  Search twitter for bittrex and look for the post by Space Cookie.  I see a bunch of people looping in @havenprotocol so let's see what happens!

wow haven protocol... go go go. bitrexx seems like goodguy
newbie
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you guys probably already know this but thought I'd mention it in case.  Bittrex just requested more POW coins to apply.  Search twitter for bittrex and look for the post by Space Cookie.  I see a bunch of people looping in @havenprotocol so let's see what happens!
newbie
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Merit: 0
member
Activity: 202
Merit: 11
Unfortunately yes  Cry, i got 900 H/s with cnv7 and got 400 with cn heavy.

for GPU? assuming you have rx570/580 you should get more than 400 got some cn-heavy stak settings here: https://forum.hashvault.pro/topic/149-cryptonight-heavy-miner-settings if it helps at all Smiley

Xeon CPU, not GPU
newbie
Activity: 52
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Unfortunately yes  Cry, i got 900 H/s with cnv7 and got 400 with cn heavy.

for GPU? assuming you have rx570/580 you should get more than 400 got some cn-heavy stak settings here: https://forum.hashvault.pro/topic/149-cryptonight-heavy-miner-settings if it helps at all Smiley
member
Activity: 202
Merit: 11
Is anyone CPU mining is so what are your rates I like to cpu mine with the fx8350 I have on my GPU rigs just don't know if it's worth trying cn heavy
CN-Heavy is not really good for CPU mining. You should mine CN-Lite instead like Aeon or IPBC.
https://github.com/IndeedMiners/xmr-aeon-stak/releases

Unfortunately yes  Cry, i got 900 H/s with cnv7 and got 400 with cn heavy.
sr. member
Activity: 966
Merit: 359
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Is anyone CPU mining is so what are your rates I like to cpu mine with the fx8350 I have on my GPU rigs just don't know if it's worth trying cn heavy
CN-Heavy is not really good for CPU mining. You should mine CN-Lite instead like Aeon or IPBC.
https://github.com/IndeedMiners/xmr-aeon-stak/releases
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
Hi, i open my offline wallet after some time to update blockchain and i got this, any help?

https://imgur.com/a/Mk64yBV
hero member
Activity: 906
Merit: 507
Is anyone CPU mining is so what are your rates I like to cpu mine with the fx8350 I have on my GPU rigs just don't know if it's worth trying cn heavy
jr. member
Activity: 88
Merit: 3
We have re-launched our offical pool!
1% Dev Fee - for funding the core devs

https://pool.havenprotocol.com/

Ports: 3333 | 4444 | 5555

Would be awesome to see some support on the official pool thanks everyone!
newbie
Activity: 89
Merit: 0
I am holding Aeon for ages...but it is being driven by the Asic's these days and there is no re-base forseen in the near future. Meanwhile i will turn my attention to other good Monero forks like Haven and Masari. So, where i can buy some ?

head on over to tradeogre... i'm mining haven, but i don't like to mine without skin in the game beforehand... i was reluctant to use tradeogre but it's a surprisingly smooth exchange, much better than half of the other random exchanges that pop up every day.

yeah, tradeogre have very fast transaction. I also surprise.
jr. member
Activity: 78
Merit: 3
Hey everyone! Bathmat Mining Pools has rebranded! New pool can be found here: https://haven.minercartel.com

Welcome to The MinerCartel.
full member
Activity: 294
Merit: 104
I am holding Aeon for ages...but it is being driven by the Asic's these days and there is no re-base forseen in the near future. Meanwhile i will turn my attention to other good Monero forks like Haven and Masari. So, where i can buy some ?

head on over to tradeogre... i'm mining haven, but i don't like to mine without skin in the game beforehand... i was reluctant to use tradeogre but it's a surprisingly smooth exchange, much better than half of the other random exchanges that pop up every day.
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
I am holding Aeon for ages...but it is being driven by the Asic's these days and there is no re-base forseen in the near future. Meanwhile i will turn my attention to other good Monero forks like Haven and Masari. So, where i can buy some ?
newbie
Activity: 98
Merit: 0
Join our Haven pool!

https://xhv.dark-mine.su
Only 0.77% fee. NO additional fees (tx fees etc)
Server located in Germany.

All usefull features such as:
-worker statistics
-direct mining (integrated and payment ID support)
-market info (calculator with current estimated profit)
-miner config generator
-configurable minimal payout (default 1 xhv)
-eng/rus telegram support (our support now in Haven discord too)
-telegram worker and payment notification bot

Stable, DDoS protected and miner-friendly.
jr. member
Activity: 88
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Haven implements a great idea in a clever way, but I have a few questions about how it is going to work in practice, mainly around the issue of TRUST, which is very important for this coin

- When retrieving from offshore, how will the exchanges be chosen to calculate the correct number of coins to mine?  I can imagine that this coin is not exactly government-friendly, so what if it has been 6 months and all the original exchanges were shut down, and now there are some new exchanges? 

- Presumably in answer to the above question there is some sort of registration system for incorporating new exchanges into the protocol.  Who gets to decide which exchanges are bona fide exchanges to be incorporated and which not?   There seems to be some issues of third party trust here, which blockchain is supposed to avoid.  How will fraudulent or potentially fraudulent exchanges be handled?  What about exchanges set up by governments explicitly to manipulate the price?  Very likely if the coin is perceived as an actual threat - which it will be if it is successful.

- What if all the original exchanges were shut down and there are no more exchanges at all when funds are brought back?  What would the fall-back position be to decide on the number of coins to mine?  Or would all funds simply be irretrievable in that scenario?

- Cryptoasset prices can be very volatile.  What about the delay between issuing the command to retrieve funds, and the completion of all the mining?  The price could change in that time, perhaps significantly, especially if manipulated by governments (if considered an actual, real threat).  Will the amount to be mined be continually updated throughout mining?  Won't there be the danger of mining too much?  Or too little?  Does the coin holder simply take on some price risk here?  I thought the coin was supposed to avoid that?

- How will the mining pools to be used decided on?  Pools come into and go out of existence.  Would the coin holder simply be able to decide which pools?  Or will the protocol itself set up virtual pools on chain as the need arises?

For someone interested in sending a significant amount of money offshore, these are very live questions.  Although the coin implements a really nice, clever idea, I think it will be hard to build a robust offshore storage system that people can really trust with significant quantities of funds.

When retrieving from offshore, how will the exchanges be chosen to calculate the correct number of coins to mine?  I can imagine that this coin is not exactly government-friendly, so what if it has been 6 months and all the original exchanges were shut down, and now there are some new exchanges?

The Haven decentralised orcale, which will determine the current price, will be updated to include the new exchanges. The current thinking is that this wont be apart of the Haven core code, so its not like we'd need to hardfork Haven just to add more exchanges.

Presumably in answer to the above question there is some sort of registration system for incorporating new exchanges into the protocol.  Who gets to decide which exchanges are bona fide exchanges to be incorporated and which not?   There seems to be some issues of third party trust here, which blockchain is supposed to avoid.  How will fraudulent or potentially fraudulent exchanges be handled?  What about exchanges set up by governments explicitly to manipulate the price?  Very likely if the coin is perceived as an actual threat - which it will be if it is successful.

The devs will decide which exchange API to reference, same as how we update Haven Core, so we aren't going to reference those exchanges. We can also reference other pricing api's where Haven is listed. i.e. CoinMarketCap, CoinGecko, LiveCoinWatch, Blockfolio etc


What if all the original exchanges were shut down and there are no more exchanges at all when funds are brought back?  What would the fall-back position be to decide on the number of coins to mine?  Or would all funds simply be irretrievable in that scenario?

The protocol will just use the last known price (each block has the current price) although its pretty unlikley we'd lose all exchanges at once. We'd utilise decentralised exchanges which can't just be shut down.

Cryptoasset prices can be very volatile.  What about the delay between issuing the command to retrieve funds, and the completion of all the mining?  The price could change in that time, perhaps significantly, especially if manipulated by governments (if considered an actual, real threat).  Will the amount to be mined be continually updated throughout mining?  Won't there be the danger of mining too much?  Or too little?  Does the coin holder simply take on some price risk here?  I thought the coin was supposed to avoid that?

The new coins aren't mined, they are 'minted' instantly. This is treated just like a regular transaction so it will need to be in a block too and thus would take the same amount of time.

How will the mining pools to be used decided on?  Pools come into and go out of existence.  Would the coin holder simply be able to decide which pools?  Or will the protocol itself set up virtual pools on chain as the need arises?

Addressed above, the new coins aren't mined so no need for a pool



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