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Topic: [ANN] [PPC] PPCoin Released! - First Long-Term Energy-Efficient Crypto-Currency - page 131. (Read 684839 times)

legendary
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I let my 2 5830's mine PPC for over 8 hours and there's nothing in my wallet. This seems like a long time to go without getting any reward. Suggestions?

please post the output of your "ppcoind getinfo" command
I haven't upgraded to 0.2.0 yet but....



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donator
Activity: 994
Merit: 1000
I let my 2 5830's mine PPC for over 8 hours and there's nothing in my wallet. This seems like a long time to go without getting any reward. Suggestions?

please post the output of your "ppcoind getinfo" command
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1000
I let my 2 5830's mine PPC for over 8 hours and there's nothing in my wallet. This seems like a long time to go without getting any reward. Suggestions?
legendary
Activity: 1205
Merit: 1010
I've looked around and I just want to clear up one idea about this coin:

If I have more coins, am I more likely to mine coins?

Like if I have 2000 coins and 1.5GH/s, am I more likely to mine a coin than someone who has 1000 coins and 1.5GH/s? And less than someone with 10000 coins and 1.5GH/s?

Edit: that is in 3 weeks huh?

No. What you describe is something close to cunicula's proposal (we have thought about a similar variant during our early design phase last year). In our design proof-of-work and proof-of-stake is separate and do not mix with each other. You have the same chance of mining proof-of-work blocks as the other miner with 1.5GH/s. But with 2000 coins you would have better chance of minting a proof-of-stake block than the other minter with 1000 coins, and less chance than another minter with 10000 coins.
legendary
Activity: 1420
Merit: 1010
As a little fun project for myself I had a go at creating a windows interface for the PPCoin wallet... here is what I came up with...

http://ppcointalk.org/index.php?q=node/12

Works on a win 7 x64 OS... please let me know if u get it running on something else ... very early days so please bear with me.

Also i feel I should say this is my first public program i produced!! so go easy on the slating of code Tongue  but all comments welcome
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
Maybe instead of thinking of building a server and client from scratch you could take a look at open transactions? Work on the client end of that, it has a test client right now just for the ability to test the various functionalities, but could sure do with spiffing up to be useful to normal people...

-MarkM-
hero member
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FPGA Mining LLC
The whole "proof of stake" idea could have profound effects on exchanges too--0% trading fees, as they would make money from your coins just sitting in their account Smiley

On that note, would anyone be interested if I made an exchange that used text-based clients instead of a website? I would do it that way for two reasons:
1.) Security (no web fronted that can be abused, I find server-side code is much easier to secure, and I would do manual payouts to increase security perhaps...)
2.) Ease of creation (I find that making a program like that is much more simple than making a website).

It would be secure as there isn't a web front-end to attack, and perhaps I would even do payouts manually to increase security (aka server doesn't even have a link to the wallet, instead works on a store of maybe 10,000 addresses for each currency (Litecoins, Bitcoins, PPCoins)). Or is this just a crazy idea?

Web site is no different from any other client-server application. In fact, you can just implement a certain RPC API on a server (i.e. JSON-RPC or XML-RPC), and client software (HTML+JS) will be solely responsible for user interface. But with this design one can implement any other user interface, including command-line one.

So there is no difference.

The reason I was looking at a text-based (or console-based) application was to avoid the possibility of things such as mySQL injections (which I know are preventable) and similar attacks. Having an application that has certain mySQL commands hard-coded into it instead of leaving them open to the internet or based on the parsing of a URL seemed a safer route, but perhaps I am wrong.

No offense, but you're completely wrong. A web client is really no different from a command line one, especially as far as safe processing of user-generated data is concerned. Who cares whether the user typed the SQL injection into a web browser or into the command line? The effect is the same.
Safe validation of each and every bit of client-generated data (whether browser or command line client) that gets processed by the server is absolutely crucial. Just to name the two most obvious things: Watch out for negative numbers and prevent SQL injections by using parameterized prepared statements.
I used such a HTML+JS client + JSONRPC server approach like it was detailed above in MPBM and Bitcoin WebUI for a reason. It's easy to implement on the server side, has less possible attack vectors and allows for greatest flexibility. Bitcoin badly suffers from not having decoupled bitcoin-qt from bitcoind from the very beginning, and I'm sure it won't be long until they finally split that out, even though it will be a fair bit of work.
legendary
Activity: 1713
Merit: 1029
The whole "proof of stake" idea could have profound effects on exchanges too--0% trading fees, as they would make money from your coins just sitting in their account Smiley

On that note, would anyone be interested if I made an exchange that used text-based clients instead of a website? I would do it that way for two reasons:
1.) Security (no web fronted that can be abused, I find server-side code is much easier to secure, and I would do manual payouts to increase security perhaps...)
2.) Ease of creation (I find that making a program like that is much more simple than making a website).

It would be secure as there isn't a web front-end to attack, and perhaps I would even do payouts manually to increase security (aka server doesn't even have a link to the wallet, instead works on a store of maybe 10,000 addresses for each currency (Litecoins, Bitcoins, PPCoins)). Or is this just a crazy idea?

Web site is no different from any other client-server application. In fact, you can just implement a certain RPC API on a server (i.e. JSON-RPC or XML-RPC), and client software (HTML+JS) will be solely responsible for user interface. But with this design one can implement any other user interface, including command-line one.

So there is no difference.

The reason I was looking at a text-based (or console-based) application was to avoid the possibility of things such as mySQL injections (which I know are preventable) and similar attacks. Having an application that has certain mySQL commands hard-coded into it instead of leaving them open to the internet or based on the parsing of a URL seemed a safer route, but perhaps I am wrong.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1033
The whole "proof of stake" idea could have profound effects on exchanges too--0% trading fees, as they would make money from your coins just sitting in their account Smiley

On that note, would anyone be interested if I made an exchange that used text-based clients instead of a website? I would do it that way for two reasons:
1.) Security (no web fronted that can be abused, I find server-side code is much easier to secure, and I would do manual payouts to increase security perhaps...)
2.) Ease of creation (I find that making a program like that is much more simple than making a website).

It would be secure as there isn't a web front-end to attack, and perhaps I would even do payouts manually to increase security (aka server doesn't even have a link to the wallet, instead works on a store of maybe 10,000 addresses for each currency (Litecoins, Bitcoins, PPCoins)). Or is this just a crazy idea?

Web site is no different from any other client-server application. In fact, you can just implement a certain RPC API on a server (i.e. JSON-RPC or XML-RPC), and client software (HTML+JS) will be solely responsible for user interface. But with this design one can implement any other user interface, including command-line one.

So there is no difference.
legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 1006
The whole "proof of stake" idea could have profound effects on exchanges too--0% trading fees, as they would make money from your coins just sitting in their account Smiley

On that note, would anyone be interested if I made an exchange that used text-based clients instead of a website? I would do it that way for two reasons:
1.) Security (no web fronted that can be abused, I find server-side code is much easier to secure, and I would do manual payouts to increase security perhaps...)
2.) Ease of creation (I find that making a program like that is much more simple than making a website).

It would be secure as there isn't a web front-end to attack, and perhaps I would even do payouts manually to increase security (aka server doesn't even have a link to the wallet, instead works on a store of maybe 10,000 addresses for each currency (Litecoins, Bitcoins, PPCoins)). Or is this just a crazy idea?

I'm not sure what you mean by text based. You mean command line?
legendary
Activity: 1713
Merit: 1029
The whole "proof of stake" idea could have profound effects on exchanges too--0% trading fees, as they would make money from your coins just sitting in their account Smiley

On that note, would anyone be interested if I made an exchange that used text-based clients instead of a website? I would do it that way for two reasons:
1.) Security (no web fronted that can be abused, I find server-side code is much easier to secure, and I would do manual payouts to increase security perhaps...)
2.) Ease of creation (I find that making a program like that is much more simple than making a website).

It would be secure as there isn't a web front-end to attack, and perhaps I would even do payouts manually to increase security (aka server doesn't even have a link to the wallet, instead works on a store of maybe 10,000 addresses for each currency (Litecoins, Bitcoins, PPCoins)). Or is this just a crazy idea?
hero member
Activity: 607
Merit: 500
Unfortunately currently we are lacking in resource to fully support the qt gui version. So for now only daemon is officially built. Some of our users have attempted to build their own qt gui with some success.

Thanks,

I've built the qt and it works fine.
mind to share the details plz?
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Unfortunately currently we are lacking in resource to fully support the qt gui version. So for now only daemon is officially built. Some of our users have attempted to build their own qt gui with some success.

Thanks,

I've built the qt and it works fine.
legendary
Activity: 1205
Merit: 1010
I find this coin to be interesting to say the least. I have a stupid question, where do I get my wallet address ? I'm mining at NothinG's pool and want to add it to my profile. Thanks in advance.

To get address you can use
ppcoind getaccountaddress ""
ppcoind getnewaddress
ppcoind validateaddress


Unfortunately currently we are lacking in resource to fully support the qt gui version. So for now only daemon is officially built. Some of our users have attempted to build their own qt gui with some success.

Thanks,
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
How is it that it does not have a GUI? I see a bitcoin-qt.pro file in the toplevel directory, did they do something to break the ability to compile the -qt version? Normally if the daemon works the GUI does too as its mostly just a pretty front end onto the same code...

-MarkM-
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1000
I think what's very vital for this coin to become more widely mined is a wallet. I'm not a coder but is there any way a wallet can be made using the bitcoin wallet code, just altered like the litecoin wallet?
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
I find this coin to be interesting to say the least. I have a stupid question, where do I get my wallet address ? I'm mining at NothinG's pool and want to add it to my profile. Thanks in advance.
This coin unfortunately doesn't have a GUI, but you can use the Console.
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1000
I find this coin to be interesting to say the least. I have a stupid question, where do I get my wallet address ? I'm mining at NothinG's pool and want to add it to my profile. Thanks in advance.
legendary
Activity: 1713
Merit: 1029
Perhaps I'm looking at this wrong, but it seems as if Proof-Of-Stake combined with Proof-Of-Work will do some very interesting things for big pools, allowing big pools to give over 100% PPS based on stake earnings too, or earnings based on the coins left in a person's account until they withdraw, or something of the like. From what I understand, when proof-of-stake begins to be implemented, people with many coins will get more coins based off of their stake or holding, which would seem to have an adverse (not necessarily good or bad, just big) effect on the functioning of pools and payout schemes.

Very interested...
As far as my pool would be concerned, I would use what I could from that interest in either/or of the following:
- Spend the earnings on sending out auto-payout for users who'd like to use that feature (no, it's not coded yet).
- Giving the user's who find blocks some extra credits.


Awesome Cheesy Yeah, I see a lot of potential pool competition for the best or coolest reward schemes for using the Proof-of-Stake coins. Smiley
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
Perhaps I'm looking at this wrong, but it seems as if Proof-Of-Stake combined with Proof-Of-Work will do some very interesting things for big pools, allowing big pools to give over 100% PPS based on stake earnings too, or earnings based on the coins left in a person's account until they withdraw, or something of the like. From what I understand, when proof-of-stake begins to be implemented, people with many coins will get more coins based off of their stake or holding, which would seem to have an adverse (not necessarily good or bad, just big) effect on the functioning of pools and payout schemes.

Very interested...
As far as my pool would be concerned, I would use what I could from that interest in either/or of the following:
- Spend the earnings on sending out auto-payout for users who'd like to use that feature (no, it's not coded yet).
- Giving the user's who find blocks some extra credits.
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