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Topic: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source - page 400. (Read 748258 times)

legendary
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I believe clones work for original. When IPOs like Nfd gather 2000 people around it most of them become aware that it's a fork of Nxt, so Nxt's popularity grows.

Just you, I suppose.  Smiley I'm sorry, dzarmush. While I respect your skills and your contributions to the community, I'm afraid we don't see eye to eye on most of the issues.  Smiley

I see there are currently two camps.  I think nextgencoin and I belong to the same camp. and You're more like the libertarian kind of guy.  Smiley

EDIT: Oh wait! I forgot to add - I agree that we should not sell QORA for under 100 satoshi.. Well done for suggesting this. Good job  Cheesy

Edit 2: Maybe I misunderstood you.. I don't know. If that's the case, I apologize  Grin LOL.. it's too early for me.

Libertarian? Hell no Cool I only think about what's good for the coin. I mean if you're into something it doesn't mean people aware of it. Clones help to spread news about original coin. In some way. I might be wrong, so I'm not insisting. Anyhow I see no reason to release the source within at least 6 months.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
I believe clones work for original. When IPOs like Nfd gather 2000 people around it most of them become aware that it's a fork of Nxt, so Nxt's popularity grows.

Just you, I suppose.  Smiley I'm sorry, dzarmush. While I respect your skills and your contributions to the community, I'm afraid we don't see eye to eye on most of the issues.  Smiley

I see there are currently two camps.  I think nextgencoin and I belong to the same camp. and You're more like the libertarian kind of guy.  Smiley

EDIT: Oh wait! I forgot to add - I agree that we should not sell QORA for under 100 satoshi.. Well done for suggesting this. Good job  Cheesy

Edit 2: Maybe I misunderstood you.. I don't know. If that's the case, I apologize  Grin LOL.. it's too early for me.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
I really like CoinNext.com.  They've got real people running the site. Has anyone tried to contact them yet?  Smiley

Hey guys, let's shake Bter a bit and submit some requests concerning trading Qora. There's "New Coin to Consider" type request in the menu.
http://support.bter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
We should not list on the exchange until the wallet is stable, now ,the whole qore net will be attack easly.

They look alright, but not our league. We're aiming at top 10.
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/v2/markets/info
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
This should be obvious to everyone --
Case in point - NXTL and NAS are both NXT clones!
Answer me this - Do they add to NXT's value or simply take away NXT's market share???
I believe the later is the truth (Just take a look at coinmarketcap and see how NXT is performing lately)

Actually Nxt is perfoming pretty good lately  Smiley
As for clones. Nas is a clone. Nxtl is not. Anyway both of them have nothing to do with Nxt falling dawn since January.

So I'm curious how anyone in his or her right mind would advocate releasing the source early (if at all)??

I haven't seen anybody asking for releasing the source early. Have you?
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
I really like CoinNext.com.  They've got real people running the site. Has anyone tried to contact them yet?  Smiley

Hey guys, let's shake Bter a bit and submit some requests concerning trading Qora. There's "New Coin to Consider" type request in the menu.
http://support.bter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
We should not list on the exchange until the wallet is stable, now ,the whole qore net will be attack easly.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
This should be obvious to everyone --

Case in point - NXTL and NAS are both NXT clones!

Answer me this - Do they add to NXT's value or simply take away NXT's market share???

I believe the later is the truth (Just take a look at coinmarketcap and see how NXT is performing lately)

So I'm curious how anyone in his or her right mind would advocate releasing the source early (if at all)??

To nextgencoin,

There is an advantage in hiring or paying for people who are not anonymous!

We will gain credibility and get good publicity instantly!

Of course we can find good devs here on Bitcointalk.. but the problem is that most of them would choose to remain anonymous and not publish their real names...

With real people, we will gain mainstream recognition. And that is a BIG plus in my opinion.  Smiley

I'd like to elaborate further --

The purpose of a Qora Code Review is 3-fold:

1. Gain mainstream recognition and obtain great publicity (it'll be great if we can get someone with media connection).  That's why I'm against having anonymous devs reviewing the code.

2. Recruiting potential candidates to join Qora dev team. Please remember that we need to expand the dev team eventually (to work on mobile app and a new GUI.. so forth). By showing the QORA code to them, we will be able to gain their support, and screen potential candidate (they will provide a critique of existing code and tell us how they will contribute).

3. Earn Investor's Trust & Confidence -- Price will SHOOT up if we can find devs with recognizable names to review the code.

Good you agree. But I think you idea is a little bit grand. There are plenty of trusted talented coders here on this forum. Some involved with NXT development would be good.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
Hey guys, let's shake Bter a bit and submit some requests concerning trading Qora. There's "New Coin to Consider" type request in the menu.
http://support.bter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
We should not list on the exchange until the wallet is stable, now ,the whole qore net will be attack easly.

They'll not add Qora just because a couple of guys asked for that. We'll just have their attention and by the time they're ready we already have a stable client and network.

while our trade volume reach 50btc/day, I guess they should care Grin

You're on 15th place, right over Dgex by trading volume Smiley

newbie
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Wallet function seems relatively simple, expect more innovation.
hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 501
Hey guys, let's shake Bter a bit and submit some requests concerning trading Qora. There's "New Coin to Consider" type request in the menu.
http://support.bter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
We should not list on the exchange until the wallet is stable, now ,the whole qore net will be attack easly.

They'll not add Qora just because a couple of guys asked for that. We'll just have their attention and by the time they're ready we already have a stable client and network.

while our trade volume reach 50btc/day, I guess they should care Grin
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
Hey guys, let's shake Bter a bit and submit some requests concerning trading Qora. There's "New Coin to Consider" type request in the menu.
http://support.bter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
We should not list on the exchange until the wallet is stable, now ,the whole qore net will be attack easly.

They'll not add Qora just because a couple of guys asked for that. We'll just have their attention and by the time they're ready we already have a stable client and network.
sr. member
Activity: 422
Merit: 250
Hey guys, let's shake Bter a bit and submit some requests concerning trading Qora. There's "New Coin to Consider" type request in the menu.
http://support.bter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
We should not list on the exchange until the wallet is stable, now ,the whole qore net will be attack easly.
sr. member
Activity: 422
Merit: 250
Ready to sell some qora at an acceptable price.
Just PM me.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
Hey guys, let's shake Bter a bit and submit some requests concerning trading Qora. There's "New Coin to Consider" type request in the menu.
http://support.bter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 1000
Reality is stranger than fiction
NextGenCoin,

I'm in total agreement with you on this. The dev should postpone releasing the source for at least 6 - 12 months. The next step we need to take is "Qora Code Review" by independent 3rd-party devs. And I've got a few words to say about this.

I'm wondering if we can get/hire a panel of devs for the code review, the panelists should fit the following profiles:

1. Programmers who are well known in academia or research community (I'm thinking of those Johns Hopkins guys who were working on ZeroCoin project, or professors of well known schools in the USA).
2. Programmers or devs who have connection to media.
3. Devs who might be interested in working for/on Qora (remember we need devs for lightweight mobile clients).
4. Devs who are just famous or well known in the bitcoin/cryptocurrency community.

Those should be the only candidates.

Is Qora an open sourced project?
and when will the source code be released?

Not yet.
Not yet decided. The community will make the decision based on the situation. Nobody wants early clones.

I think open source as a marketing tool is essential. Without a code review people worry about how safe their money is.

Yeah, but BCNext has his own way Smiley
I believe nobody wants to publish source too fast. It's better to wait till Qora is well known enough so clones won't hurt it.

Agree,I dont want to see tons of suck coins,open source must to do,but it is not the time




I would go further and suggest the community votes for the code to be checked over by a number of trusted third parties. Open source made sense in the Bitcoin era but not anymore. Blindly doing something because it is the 'done thing' is not smart. The fact is the only people who want the source and will be complaining on here that its not released are those hoping to make a quick clone.

Sensible people will vote for a new way of doing things. We need experts to look at the code not cloners...

At the very least an expert check when the coin has gained some maturity and then a health long gap to opensource. I'm talking a year or more.


+1000
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
Nice Coin, i will buy it.  Grin
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 260
How could I tell it is expired?

No clue Smiley Perhaps the blockchain.info page would tell you.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1000
I have an idea about how to publish source code and secure investors.
Just do it with lateness of 6 month snapshots.

So after 6 month we will publish only Qora v1. And by this time we probably would use Qora v16. After 12 mounth we publish next source code snapshot - Qora v16, and by this time we would on Qora v33.

That means that the newest features and bug fixes are always in Qora first  Wink.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1000
NextGenCoin,

I'm in total agreement with you on this. The dev should postpone releasing the source for at least 6 - 12 months. The next step we need to take is "Qora Code Review" by independent 3rd-party devs. And I've got a few words to say about this.

I'm wondering if we can get/hire a panel of devs for the code review, the panelists should fit the following profiles:

1. Programmers who are well known in academia or research community (I'm thinking of those Johns Hopkins guys who were working on ZeroCoin project, or professors of well known schools in the USA).
2. Programmers or devs who have connection to media.
3. Devs who might be interested in working for/on Qora (remember we need devs for lightweight mobile clients).
4. Devs who are just famous or well known in the bitcoin/cryptocurrency community.

Those should be the only candidates.

Is Qora an open sourced project?
and when will the source code be released?

Not yet.
Not yet decided. The community will make the decision based on the situation. Nobody wants early clones.

I think open source as a marketing tool is essential. Without a code review people worry about how safe their money is.

Yeah, but BCNext has his own way Smiley
I believe nobody wants to publish source too fast. It's better to wait till Qora is well known enough so clones won't hurt it.

Agree,I dont want to see tons of suck coins,open source must to do,but it is not the time




I would go further and suggest the community votes for the code to be checked over by a number of trusted third parties. Open source made sense in the Bitcoin era but not anymore. Blindly doing something because it is the 'done thing' is not smart. The fact is the only people who want the source and will be complaining on here that its not released are those hoping to make a quick clone.

Sensible people will vote for a new way of doing things. We need experts to look at the code not cloners...

At the very least an expert check when the coin has gained some maturity and then a health long gap to opensource. I'm talking a year or more.


Good you agree. But I think you idea is a little bit grand. There are plenty of trusted talented coders here on this forum. Some involved with NXT development would be good.
hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 501
bitcoin core v0.9.1.0

it's 0 by default, you have to edit settings.

Thanks, I just edited it.
What is weird is that my transactions before all go with 0.0001btc fee, and I never reset fee.
As to this specific transaction (occurred 3 hrs ago), will it never be processed? how long will I have to wait to confirm this?

Can you try to restart your bitcoin core client? This may clear the transaction from bitcoin core memory. Don't resend it until it's expired, or it may still go through twice.

How could I tell it is expired?
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 260
bitcoin core v0.9.1.0

it's 0 by default, you have to edit settings.

Thanks, I just edited it.
What is weird is that my transactions before all go with 0.0001btc fee, and I never reset fee.
As to this specific transaction (occurred 3 hrs ago), will it never be processed? how long will I have to wait to confirm this?

Can you try to restart your bitcoin core client? This may clear the transaction from bitcoin core memory. Don't resend it until it's expired, or it may still go through twice.
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