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September 24, 2014, 01:41:06 PM
For example,
      -instead of having 1 QRK/block we should have 10QRK/block.
      -instead of time between blocks 30s we should have 300s

Time for confirming transaction has to stay as it is now.

This way Quark parameters such as volume of Quarks, the new Quarks generation per year and the transaction confirmation time stays the same, while the growth of wallet folder will be significantly reduced (approximately 10x).

I don't get it, you want to have the same time for confirming transactions but raise the time between blocks 300s  Huh
If you want to help in development you can find Max Guevara here: http://quarktalk.org/forums/technical-support.41/ or maybe at github: https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark
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September 24, 2014, 01:33:39 PM
On the chinese exchanges the Quark wallets are mentioned:
Bter: https://bter.com/article/968
Btc38: http://www.btc38.com/trade/reserves.html

Good work, so now we know that on top of those 4 millions bter also owns those 18 millions, almost 9% of quark. Plus we now know that btc38 have about 7,8 millions in cold storage separated by 3 address each with 2 millions and another one with ~1,8 million, and their daily address has another ~3,5 million that makes it another ~5% of total. We don't know how much cryptsy has in reality, bronevik only discovered ~200K but there may have alot more in cold storage. I would say in total the exchanges hold about 10%-15% of total quark. I don't know how it compares to Bitcoin but just as a reminder mtgox had stolen/lost more than 800K from their cold storage..

"Why did those chinese exchanges send away the Quarks to another wallet last month? Do they not want to be too open about their cold wallets?"
"How many cold wallets does one exchange have?"
You must imagine the security measures employed at these exchanges will be most severe, and the fact they haven't yet updated their addresses is their business.

"The Quarks at the exchanges for sale at bter are not more than 400k , and at btc38 1.6M." Its easy, if you put them all for sale you will crash the market,
and because this isn't in anyone's intention(unless they want to commit financial suicide) then they will only put for sale a portion.

"Can we still assume that this address: QRHb2CTvGnwwrf6GHrxgQcH2tTAUoGhnC2 still belongs to an exchange because it is not published by bter/btc38?" They won't publish every single address of different levels of security, they most likely publish the main cold storage one to prove to potential traders that they have plenty resources to provide liquidity.
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September 24, 2014, 01:08:34 PM

I noticed big discrepancy between the size of the wallet folders of QRK and DRK.

QRK is 14 months old and folder size is 2.14 GB
DRK is  8  months old and folder size is  0.4  GB

I think we should reduce the speed of folder growth.

We should do both (not the only one):
   -reducing time between generating blocks
   -rising the size of the block proportionally to the reducing block time generation

For example,
      -instead of having 1 QRK/block we should have 10QRK/block.
      -instead of time between blocks 30s we should have 300s

Time for confirming transaction has to stay as it is now.

This way Quark parameters such as volume of Quarks, the new Quarks generation per year and the transaction confirmation time stays the same, while the growth of wallet folder will be significantly reduced (approximately 10x).

Is my suggestion or reasoning valid?

Is this idea good?

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September 24, 2014, 12:48:12 PM
Digged a little bit more.
Somebody reminded me that the Chinese exchanges had to publish their cold wallets.

On the chinese exchanges the Quark wallets are mentioned:
Bter: https://bter.com/article/968
Btc38: http://www.btc38.com/trade/reserves.html

What surprised me is that both exchanges almost emptied these addresses in August 2014.

The published wallet of bter has a balance of....0 QRK.
When I checked where it was send to , I ended at the 18M address Maok mentioned earlier.
So the 18M address is not connected to btc38 but bter?

BTC38 send last month 7 Million to another address, and the balance of that cold wallet address decreased to 3.5M Quark (was at highest about 13M Quark).

My questions:
Why did those chinese exchanges send away the Quarks to another wallet last month? Do they not want to be too open about their cold wallets?
Why is the cold wallet storage so high? The Quarks at the exchanges for sale at bter are not more than 400k , and at btc38 1.6M.
What do they do with that large amount of Quark in their cold storages?
How did they obtain those large amounts of Quark
How many cold wallets does one exchange have?
Can we still assume that this address: QRHb2CTvGnwwrf6GHrxgQcH2tTAUoGhnC2 still belongs to an exchange because it is not published by bter/btc38?







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September 24, 2014, 12:20:06 PM
...1 finger involved in any activity..

My 1 small finger made compiling quark wallets using the newest libraries: Smiley

   http://quarkcoin.orgfree.com

Last time nobody visited that website! My small finger is angry Smiley



Sorry but I think nobody should use non official wallets.

I don't press anybody.

Some quarkers should try to do what I did and report if the results are good or bad. I think the wallet made using the newest libraries works good.

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September 24, 2014, 11:47:57 AM
...1 finger involved in any activity..

My 1 small finger made compiling quark wallets using the newest libraries: Smiley

   http://quarkcoin.orgfree.com

Last time nobody visited that website! My small finger is angry Smiley



Sorry but I think nobody should use non official wallets.
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September 24, 2014, 10:34:35 AM

Have been thinking about your explanation..

If it is indeed btc38, how do you think about this exchange? Is this exchange good for Quark? And has this exchange (in potential) not too much influence on the Quark price?

When I summarize it: (correct me if I interpret you wrong)
- btc38 has been buying Quark till begin of december (resulting in a huge increase of the QRK price)
- btc38 held before QRK was listed 33M of Quark (which was approximately (at that time)  about 20% of the total amount of Quark.
- After Quark was listed at least 11M Quark seems disappeared from their cold storage (resulting in a continous decrease in Quark price since listed at btc38.)

What has happened according to you with the 11M Quark past 9 months? Why did btc38 need to lower that?



I have already made lots of assumptions so I'll leave it there. What is certain about that address is that 1. is not a simply moving 100K here and there: if you take a closer look you'll find those are composed by multiple txes in and out, 2. This behaviour resembles one of an exchange.. or a mixing service which we don't have in quark so it has the be the former option.

Why are you so afraid of this address ? I'm sure that if you dedicate a lot of time and you contact bronevik you'll find out more answers than I can give you. You remind me of some bitcoin naysayers who had an argument that "why would I get involved in bitcoin when Satoshi can dump his million whenever he wants". well the price is irrelevant, only the technology is what matters and if nothing happened with the protocol the price will slowly recover to where it was before the massive dump.

Quark has the best properties as a daily currency out of any other crypto coin so if a big investor/service picks it up we shouldn't be afraid of their large stash, hoarders are essential, but we should be afraid of their lack of involvement in anything related with the coin.

I think this is true, but these hoarders provide some price stability too. Those hoarders/investors from bill are good since they took a lot of qrk from the market at 20k sats and won't sell until they make a decent profit. We need though to get the rest of the quark into hands of those that are active and motivated to do something for the currency. Even those long term investors could be interested in some good ROI projects.
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September 24, 2014, 08:43:14 AM
...1 finger involved in any activity..

My 1 small finger made compiling quark wallets using the newest libraries: Smiley

   http://quarkcoin.orgfree.com

Last time nobody visited that website! My small finger is angry Smiley

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September 24, 2014, 04:59:09 AM

Have been thinking about your explanation..

If it is indeed btc38, how do you think about this exchange? Is this exchange good for Quark? And has this exchange (in potential) not too much influence on the Quark price?

When I summarize it: (correct me if I interpret you wrong)
- btc38 has been buying Quark till begin of december (resulting in a huge increase of the QRK price)
- btc38 held before QRK was listed 33M of Quark (which was approximately (at that time)  about 20% of the total amount of Quark.
- After Quark was listed at least 11M Quark seems disappeared from their cold storage (resulting in a continous decrease in Quark price since listed at btc38.)

What has happened according to you with the 11M Quark past 9 months? Why did btc38 need to lower that?



I have already made lots of assumptions so I'll leave it there. What is certain about that address is that 1. is not a simply moving 100K here and there: if you take a closer look you'll find those are composed by multiple txes in and out, 2. This behaviour resembles one of an exchange.. or a mixing service which we don't have in quark so it has the be the former option.

Why are you so afraid of this address ? I'm sure that if you dedicate a lot of time and you contact bronevik you'll find out more answers than I can give you. You remind me of some bitcoin naysayers who had an argument that "why would I get involved in bitcoin when Satoshi can dump his million whenever he wants". well the price is irrelevant, only the technology is what matters and if nothing happened with the protocol the price will slowly recover to where it was before the massive dump.

Quark has the best properties as a daily currency out of any other crypto coin so if a big investor/service picks it up we shouldn't be afraid of their large stash, hoarders are essential, but we should be afraid of their lack of involvement in anything related with the coin.

That's your interpretation that I am afraid of the address. I am not afraid, but fascinated. Because Quark can't be used much more at the moment than only trading, I wondered why this adress is so active. It is more curiousity.
Your answer sounds very logical, but also raise more questions from my side.
I have no contact with bronevic, but I can ask if he can provide me some answers, or maybe someone else here has an idea or opinion?

Agree that the technology of Quark is strong and more relevant than the price.
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September 24, 2014, 03:21:44 AM

Have been thinking about your explanation..

If it is indeed btc38, how do you think about this exchange? Is this exchange good for Quark? And has this exchange (in potential) not too much influence on the Quark price?

When I summarize it: (correct me if I interpret you wrong)
- btc38 has been buying Quark till begin of december (resulting in a huge increase of the QRK price)
- btc38 held before QRK was listed 33M of Quark (which was approximately (at that time)  about 20% of the total amount of Quark.
- After Quark was listed at least 11M Quark seems disappeared from their cold storage (resulting in a continous decrease in Quark price since listed at btc38.)

What has happened according to you with the 11M Quark past 9 months? Why did btc38 need to lower that?



I have already made lots of assumptions so I'll leave it there. What is certain about that address is that 1. is not a simply moving 100K here and there: if you take a closer look you'll find those are composed by multiple txes in and out, 2. This behaviour resembles one of an exchange.. or a mixing service which we don't have in quark so it has the be the former option.

Why are you so afraid of this address ? I'm sure that if you dedicate a lot of time and you contact bronevik you'll find out more answers than I can give you. You remind me of some bitcoin naysayers who had an argument that "why would I get involved in bitcoin when Satoshi can dump his million whenever he wants". well the price is irrelevant, only the technology is what matters and if nothing happened with the protocol the price will slowly recover to where it was before the massive dump.

Quark has the best properties as a daily currency out of any other crypto coin so if a big investor/service picks it up we shouldn't be afraid of their large stash, hoarders are essential, but we should be afraid of their lack of involvement in anything related with the coin.
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September 24, 2014, 02:53:10 AM
mprep deleting two relevant responses re Frozenbit:



post was on topic regarding FrozenBit - what is it about FrozenBit specifically that scares you guys?

Should Frozen Bit move into selling novelty night-lights?
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September 24, 2014, 01:08:30 AM
Sounds logic what you tell. Why do you think that btc38 needs such a large cold storage? Is that normal for an exchange? and do you think they have that large cold storage for every coin they trade? And how did btc38 obtain those coins?

What are conglomerates? I missed that story...
we can't tell for sure if its btc38, but its an exchange or a mixing service. The educated guess tells me it could be btc38 but why would they buy so much Quark ? Well lets say you want to provide liquidity to your markets so that you attract a large portion of traders of that currency, how would you do that if not by using your own resources(look at VOS, coins-e, etc little liquidity => few customers). There are lots of linked addresses with that one from 1-5 December so most likely they bought the quarks back then until opening their service(Qrk was #3 back then if i;m not mistaken)

mining conglomerates are those powerful miners which have contracts for selling their mined coins off-exchanges at premium cost and also doing lots of shady activities(mainly manipulating price). This can be seen perfectly in Bitcoin in recent months when good news after good news and still the price was under control by these forces which can profit from weak hands in the market. In Quark we don't have this kind of problem so we're one step ahead, however our network effect is so small that it doesn't matter that we offer an improvement version of Bitcoin because the train has already left the station so we have lots of catching up to do, especially since Quark hoarders are doing nothing to support the coin even from the background, even a small contribution, they just sit on their quarks without promoting it, without getting 1 finger involved in any activity..

Have been thinking about your explanation..

If it is indeed btc38, how do you think about this exchange? Is this exchange good for Quark? And has this exchange (in potential) not too much influence on the Quark price?

When I summarize it: (correct me if I interpret you wrong)
- btc38 has been buying Quark till begin of december (resulting in a huge increase of the QRK price)
- btc38 held before QRK was listed 33M of Quark (which was approximately (at that time)  about 20% of the total amount of Quark.
- After Quark was listed at least 11M Quark seems disappeared from their cold storage (at the same time there was a continous decrease in Quark price since listed at btc38.)

What has happened according to you with the 11M Quark past 9 months? Why did btc38 need to lower that?

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September 23, 2014, 05:20:44 PM
Sounds logic what you tell. Why do you think that btc38 needs such a large cold storage? Is that normal for an exchange? and do you think they have that large cold storage for every coin they trade? And how did btc38 obtain those coins?

What are conglomerates? I missed that story...
we can't tell for sure if its btc38, but its an exchange or a mixing service. The educated guess tells me it could be btc38 but why would they buy so much Quark ? Well lets say you want to provide liquidity to your markets so that you attract a large portion of traders of that currency, how would you do that if not by using your own resources(look at VOS, coins-e, etc little liquidity => few customers). There are lots of linked addresses with that one from 1-5 December so most likely they bought the quarks back then until opening their service(Qrk was #3 back then if i;m not mistaken)

mining conglomerates are those powerful miners which have contracts for selling their mined coins off-exchanges at premium cost and also doing lots of shady activities(mainly manipulating price). This can be seen perfectly in Bitcoin in recent months when good news after good news and still the price was under control by these forces which can profit from weak hands in the market. In Quark we don't have this kind of problem so we're one step ahead, however our network effect is so small that it doesn't matter that we offer an improvement version of Bitcoin because the train has already left the station so we have lots of catching up to do, especially since Quark hoarders are doing nothing to support the coin even from the background, even a small contribution, they just sit on their quarks without promoting it, without getting 1 finger involved in any activity..
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September 23, 2014, 04:33:30 PM

... especially in Quark whose full emission has already taken place(the extra 1 million minable quarks per year aren't sufficient to harm the price by an evil entity, like for example mining conglomerates can and are harming Bitcoin price)

The main cause is very much bigger market capitalization of BTC compared to QRK.

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September 23, 2014, 04:29:36 PM
@maok, maybe you can also help me with the following.

There is one Quarkaddress with 4,2M Quark on it: http://qrk.blockr.io/address/info/QRHb2CTvGnwwrf6GHrxgQcH2tTAUoGhnC2

At 08 January there was 33M Quark on that address. There have been much speculation and discussion about this address in the past.
First was thought it was from an exchange, but we can exclude that after today's calculations (and data from Bronevic) that one exchange had once 33M Quark.

Most probably it is of an early miner. I don't bother very much that (s)he has still 4,2M Quark on it (At one side that person is capable to destroy the complete Quark market, as we have just calculated that the buy orders are not more than about 700.000 Quark at btc38. At the other side there will be of course new buy orders when the price drops).

What I find strange is that this person is sending and receiving almost daily from January 04 till September 20 100.000 Quark from and to this address.

Do you have any idea why one person would send/receive almost daily 100.000 Quark? What is your opinion about this?

Based on the sheer number of incoming and outcome tx'es from a plethora of addresses I can tell you its either a mixing service(which i don't know it exists in Quark) or an exchange. Your confusion regarding the 100,000 in and out is very easy to clear simply by looking at the outgoing tx you'll see it doesn't sends the fix sum of 100K but it sends X amount to an address(most likely a customer or a lower end of security manager/server) and the rest is the change that the quark protocol automatically sends to a new address. Due to the security levels involved in most exchanges they will have managers/servers with different levels of security, which after a while they'll send back to the main/higher lever address in form of a fix 100K sum gathered from all the lower end points.

After looking a bit further I can tell you this service, most likely an exchange, has entered the market around 1-5 Dec 2013 so you must think which exchange adopted Quark on that date or announced that it will adopt Quark(most likely btc38)

Also after a bit more digging(public blockchain is doing wonders) I can tell you this exchange also has a cold storage address with 18 millions in it(2nd largest in Quark). Most likely that cold address is only accessible from the high end security level probably the owners of btc38 which they'll use it when extra funds are required. Similar to them at quarktalk.org we also have a cold storage address which is the public one(QUARK957iywYSpgkYi9gbW3pFtLszeU7wQ) and the rest of lower end levels are kept on the servers for the payouts. Once I'll use the cold storage address and expose my pubkey then I'll move the funds to another cold storage address, just in case the sha256 algo gets broken ;-)

No one can destroy a crypto currency by selling their coins, what they'll do is 1. deliberately financial self-harm and 2. open up the market to new adopters which will take advantage of the low price. This is the reason you see all the struggle with Bitcoin price going back and forth this year from the $400-$500 levels, this used to happen when it was $10-$11, it used to happen when it was $100, eventually you'll see that no one will commit financial suicide, especially in Quark whose full emission has already taken place(the extra 1 million minable quarks per year aren't sufficient to harm the price by an evil entity, like for example mining conglomerates can and are harming Bitcoin price)

Thank you I really learn a lot from you Smiley. What is your background, how do you know so much about cryptocoins?
Also what a relief...It is possible to have an open and informative discussion about Quark at bitcointalk without any distraction (that I have plans to fork Quark or something Tongue)

Sounds logic what you tell. Why do you think that btc38 needs such a large cold storage? Is that normal for an exchange? and do you think they have that large cold storage for every coin they trade? And how did btc38 obtain those coins?

What are conglomerates? I missed that story...


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September 23, 2014, 02:19:45 PM
@maok, maybe you can also help me with the following.

There is one Quarkaddress with 4,2M Quark on it: http://qrk.blockr.io/address/info/QRHb2CTvGnwwrf6GHrxgQcH2tTAUoGhnC2

At 08 January there was 33M Quark on that address. There have been much speculation and discussion about this address in the past.
First was thought it was from an exchange, but we can exclude that after today's calculations (and data from Bronevic) that one exchange had once 33M Quark.

Most probably it is of an early miner. I don't bother very much that (s)he has still 4,2M Quark on it (At one side that person is capable to destroy the complete Quark market, as we have just calculated that the buy orders are not more than about 700.000 Quark at btc38. At the other side there will be of course new buy orders when the price drops).

What I find strange is that this person is sending and receiving almost daily from January 04 till September 20 100.000 Quark from and to this address.

Do you have any idea why one person would send/receive almost daily 100.000 Quark? What is your opinion about this?

Based on the sheer number of incoming and outcome tx'es from a plethora of addresses I can tell you its either a mixing service(which i don't know it exists in Quark) or an exchange. Your confusion regarding the 100,000 in and out is very easy to clear simply by looking at the outgoing tx you'll see it doesn't sends the fix sum of 100K but it sends X amount to an address(most likely a customer or a lower end of security manager/server) and the rest is the change that the quark protocol automatically sends to a new address. Due to the security levels involved in most exchanges they will have managers/servers with different levels of security, which after a while they'll send back to the main/higher lever address in form of a fix 100K sum gathered from all the lower end points.

After looking a bit further I can tell you this service, most likely an exchange, has entered the market around 1-5 Dec 2013 so you must think which exchange adopted Quark on that date or announced that it will adopt Quark(most likely btc38)

Also after a bit more digging(public blockchain is doing wonders) I can tell you this exchange also has a cold storage address with 18 millions in it(2nd largest in Quark). Most likely that cold address is only accessible from the high end security level probably the owners of btc38 which they'll use it when extra funds are required. Similar to them at quarktalk.org we also have a cold storage address which is the public one(QUARK957iywYSpgkYi9gbW3pFtLszeU7wQ) and the rest of lower end levels are kept on the servers for the payouts. Once I'll use the cold storage address and expose my pubkey then I'll move the funds to another cold storage address, just in case the sha256 algo gets broken ;-)

No one can destroy a crypto currency by selling their coins, what they'll do is 1. deliberately financial self-harm and 2. open up the market to new adopters which will take advantage of the low price. This is the reason you see all the struggle with Bitcoin price going back and forth this year from the $400-$500 levels, this used to happen when it was $10-$11, it used to happen when it was $100, eventually you'll see that no one will commit financial suicide, especially in Quark whose full emission has already taken place(the extra 1 million minable quarks per year aren't sufficient to harm the price by an evil entity, like for example mining conglomerates can and are harming Bitcoin price)
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September 23, 2014, 01:04:35 PM
@maok, maybe you can also help me with the following.

There is one Quarkaddress with 4,2M Quark on it: http://qrk.blockr.io/address/info/QRHb2CTvGnwwrf6GHrxgQcH2tTAUoGhnC2

At 08 January there was 33M Quark on that address. There have been much speculation and discussion about this address in the past.
First was thought it was from an exchange, but we can exclude that after today's calculations (and data from Bronevic) that one exchange had once 33M Quark.

Most probably it is of an early miner. I don't bother very much that (s)he has still 4,2M Quark on it (At one side that person is capable to destroy the complete Quark market, as we have just calculated that the buy orders are not more than about 700.000 Quark at btc38. At the other side there will be of course new buy orders when the price drops).

What I find strange is that this person is sending and receiving almost daily from January 04 till September 20 100.000 Quark from and to this address.

Do you have any idea why one person would send/receive almost daily 100.000 Quark? What is your opinion about this?
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September 23, 2014, 05:09:04 AM
When I count quick at btc38 and look to the top 30 (did not find out how to see complete list), I count about 600-700k
There are 693,457 QRK as buy orders not for sell.

P.S. If you want to make it easier, this is the regex I've used:
Code:
\.(\d*)	(\d*?\.\d*)
You take group 2 out of it and
Code:
$nrs = "60514.149174
31163.65702
...
...";
$count = explode("\n", $nrs);
$total = 0;
foreach($count as $nr) $total += trim($nr);

echo $total;

Cool!

Yeah looked in the wrong column lol
Thanks again, also for the formulas!
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September 23, 2014, 04:30:39 AM
When I count quick at btc38 and look to the top 30 (did not find out how to see complete list), I count about 600-700k
There are 693,457 QRK as buy orders not for sell.

P.S. If you want to make it easier, this is the regex I've used:
Code:
\.(\d*)	(\d*?\.\d*)
You take group 2 out of it and
Code:
$nrs = "60514.149174
31163.65702
...
...";
$count = explode("\n", $nrs);
$total = 0;
foreach($count as $nr) $total += trim($nr);

echo $total;
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September 23, 2014, 03:56:27 AM
Maok, sorry to be so "critical", but in my opinion this doesn't reflect the volume Bitcoins present at exchanges. For a better estimation you also have to count all btc in the buyorders for the different alts at cryptsy, mintpal etc (because all alts can be bought with btc). Therefore I think you can't compare QRK with btc or ltc.
Anybody an idea why the amount Quark for sale is so low at the exchanges?

Are we talking about the volume or available for sell ? Your initial investigation was about the amount of Quark available for sell and I've taken few minutes to see the exact figures.

Some facts(not opinion):

btc38.com total quarks available for sell: 1,631,344 QRK (http://www.btc38.com/trade_en.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=qrk)
cryptsy total quarks available for sell: 347,410 QRK (https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/71)
bter total quarks available for sell: 332,711 QRK (https://bter.com/trade/qrk_btc)

Only taken the 3 most important exchanges, total QRK available for sell: 2,311,465 -> out of 248,233,803 total QRK ~= 0.93%

Bitcoin top 3
BTC China : They don't present the order available for sell to non-registered users but I've taken their volume of 30,000 BTC
Bitstamp: 4,000 BTC available for sell(https://www.bitstamp.net/market/order_book/)
BTC-e: 9,554 BTC available for sell(https://btc-e.com/)

Total 43,554 BTC, out of 13,303,700 total BTC ~= 0.32%

Bitcoin available for sell almost 3 times lower than Quark.


Mostly crypto investors start to become nervous when prices drop for such a long period, and at a sudden point they take their losses and you notice large dumps at exchanges.
Bitcoin price trend resembles Quark's from January onwards so you could ask why aren't the `nervous` bitcoiners heading straight to the exchanges ? Well again its only a matter of price and the fact that people don't like to keep their coins at the exchanges if they aren't going to trade them at current prices. When the price is right you'll see an increase in volume.

Thank you!
Will have a closer look to it when I come home. When I count quick at btc38 and look to the top 30 (did not find out how to see complete list), I count about 600-700k. The amount you counted at cryptsy and bter is comparable what I counted.

I was indeed looking for the amount of Quark for sale not volume.
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