Topic: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade - page 72. (Read 1031025 times)

Are we talking about the volume or available for sell ? Your initial investigation was about the amount of Quark available for sell and I've taken few minutes to see the exact figures.

Some facts(not opinion):

btc38.com total quarks available for sell: 1,631,344 QRK (http://www.btc38.com/trade_en.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=qrk)
cryptsy total quarks available for sell: 347,410 QRK (https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/71)
bter total quarks available for sell: 332,711 QRK (https://bter.com/trade/qrk_btc)

Only taken the 3 most important exchanges, total QRK available for sell: 2,311,465 -> out of 248,233,803 total QRK ~= 0.93%

Bitcoin top 3
BTC China : They don't present the order available for sell to non-registered users but I've taken their volume of 30,000 BTC
Bitstamp: 4,000 BTC available for sell(https://www.bitstamp.net/market/order_book/)
BTC-e: 9,554 BTC available for sell(https://btc-e.com/)

Total 43,554 BTC, out of 13,303,700 total BTC ~= 0.32%

Bitcoin available for sell almost 3 times lower than Quark.


Bitcoin price trend resembles Quark's from January onwards so you could ask why aren't the `nervous` bitcoiners heading straight to the exchanges ? Well again its only a matter of price and the fact that people don't like to keep their coins at the exchanges if they aren't going to trade them at current prices. When the price is right you'll see an increase in volume.

Maok, sorry to be so "critical", but in my opinion this doesn't reflect the volume Bitcoins present at exchanges. For a better estimation you also have to count all btc in the buyorders for the different alts at cryptsy, mintpal etc (because all alts can be bought with btc). That is why I think you can't compare QRK with btc or ltc.

Maybe for this case I can compare QRK best with a pre-mined coin like NXT, what also has no problems with miners who dump the mined coins at exchanges.

Thanks for the tip to withdraw my quark. Good suggestion

@silvermetal Bitcoin volume in normal days is around 15-20K, you can check on http://bitcoincharts.com/ or on http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/

Quark available volume on exchanges is normal and as you've seen last week when a new investor comes the volume will increase as well. Its a matter of price and the fact that people don't feel the need to leave their coins on the exchanges(even the exchanges don't recommend it). If you do keep your quarks on the exchanges my suggestion is to withdraw them immediately if you don't plan selling at the current prices of 1,500-2,500 satoshis

Hm seems that the company "digitalindustry" isn't interested to share any business information.
Is there one time a company interested in Quark....do we not even know where the business stands for and how big it is.

I have always worked for Quark on a voluntary basis, I dont want to change that. I like to work for a good cause.
My diagnosis was not correct by the way, Peter. I think this article, which was send to me, describes it better: http://betabeat.com/2013/03/me-and-you-and-everyone-we-know-the-many-many-many-faces-of-internet-multiples/

On a more serious note, I have no ambition to become a therapist. I just try to get some clarity.
To me it is not logical that the millions of Quark which are dumped last month seems evaporated.

I don't buy stories that Quarks feel more comfortable (or in his words; are happier) in Chinese wallets. Maybe I believed those stories 9 months ago, but not now anymore :-)

COULD YOU GUYS PLEASE SLING MUD AT EACH OTHER VIA PERSONAL MESSAGES?!
STOP SPAMMING THIS THREAD

keep your chin up you are making progress guys.

don't let the man get you down.


Quark is a great decentralized asset.

what happened with the "burn" Pete?

you seemed like you had 2 or 3 users interested there for a while?

Keep asking him that, Orm. Maybe you´ll eventually force him into another public demonstration of multiple personality disorder From the last pages I can see that you are seriously becoming DIs personal therapist. Don´t forget to charge him.

Ok, you like to think you have control over the whole world, just popped up in my head. However that was not my question (maybe you misunderstood me).

How many people are working for di? And what is di doing?

he slipped up and jumped back to "normal troll" there.... Silvermetal compose yourself.

every part of the earth.

I can field the first part, when they were chatting on to each other they decided to make up "Precious metals" "investment" type names.

as this is where a lot of investment in Quark came from.

so you have the "silvermetal" troll, and the moak already openly admitted they are trying to destroy Quark, its fun for them I guess as they wouldn't be doing anything else all day.


Silver is a Buy.

Quark is a Buy.

Yuan is a Buy.

one can get access to Yuan appreciation through Quark.

@maok, can you provide me a reference about the amount of bitcoins present at exchanges? I couldn't find it....

@digitalindustry, you mentioned that the Quarkaddress in your profile is not from Kolin Evans but from "digitalindustry" and you explained that that is not a person but some sort of company? How big is your company (how much persons are working for you)? and what is the main purpose of that company?

Great response lol.. Waste of my time responding to a idiot with incoherent english.  Your evasion only solidifies you as a troll....and a laughable one at that.  You have been provided with straightforward common sense reasons to your idiot question why volume on an exchange is not equal to the total amount of Quark existing instead of digesting it like someone who asked the question in good faith would, you instead retort with a post that makes you look like a dumb cunt.  Congrats ding ding level40 you get a mount!

hahahahahahaha
pfff
What a nonsense...I like "silver" because my name is "silvermetal"
I have heard stranger things...that I like metal music and that kind of things.
That I like silver is new from me

You like to flux all day?

Ok creating confusion...that is what you like Why do I forget those things sometimes....

Indeed, Bill Still's invitation of the `survivolists` has caused some huge damage for Quark and their effects can be seen today with their complete lack of involvement in Quark promotion and projects that can help adoption. These type of hoarders are very different from the  bitcoin hoarders because they actively get involved in either development or promotion of Bitcoin unlike the Bill Still followers/hoarders which don't care at all about Quark, they either think that its a good balance if fiat will have another crisis or they wait until Quark's value magically explodes so they can make a profit, either way their sum as a collective creates a type of cancer which only sits and if not removed can make the entire body die.

Silver and Gold and other metals are immune to this type of cancer because they have been around for thousands of years but a new currency cannot survive if the majority of its hoarders are absent from any small or background activity, they are simply absent until the price will rise(or will it ? :-)

No it isn't JUST that people don't want to store their QRK (or XYZ or ABC) on an exchange out of fear of losing the coin...they do not have them on the exchange because they have no plans to sell in a short term time period that would require them having their coin on an exchange.

What makes Silvermetal a weirdo is the existing hypocricy between his proposed inability to understand the concept of long term holding of an investment, and his name silvermetal...with silver being about as much as a buy and hold for the long long term bury it and forget it item than anything.  Silver is at a 700 day low...should all metal holders be selling now...fuck no unless you are an idiot, or absolutely have to cash out to pay a bill.

 In fact many metal holders are not even in it for fiat profit, they buy silver as a counter to a collapse of the dollar.  Bill Still recommended the same kind of 'survivalist' mentality as a reason to buy and hold some Quark.  Personally I don't think along those lines but I think there was a number of people that did buy Quark as a counter to a fiat collapse, so they will be completely uninterested in selling until that scenario plays out.. I do not expect to see that QRK traded around on an exchange much at all which if anything is a genuine reduction in the amount of liquid QRK which actually makes upward price movement easier if/when buying demand increases.

Quark is a fork of Bitcoin so we can always compare to it, especially since we have so many improvements going on. In regards to value I only hold quarks and bitcoins and both are very valuable for me so I wouldn't want to see them lost because mtgox or qex.la was hacked(or a different reason/lie). Don't treat exchanges like banks, thats why we moved over from fiat because we want to be in control of our money so keep your coins into your wallet until you want to trade them.

Can you in this case compare Quark with BTC? To be honest, when I look to myself, I am much more careful with bitcoins leaving at exchanges than with altcoins (because bitcoins has a much larger value than altcoins). Also when I trade altcoins I have not for every altcoin I traded an online (synchronized) wallet downloaded at my laptop.
Rather would like to compare it with other altcoins, but that is a lot of work I guess to find out. Hm, maybe when I am bored one day I have a look into that.

regarding the amount of quark available on the exchanges, the percentage is similar with bitcoin (of course in normal days) 15-16000 btc daily for 13 million ~ 0,11% similar with 300-400K for 247 million ~ 0,16%. Its just a matter of price and people learned from mtgox not to keep large funds on the exchanges.

His own enemy is indeed in his own head, that makes it so fascinating sometimes...
But yeah, I was honestly interested why the amount of Quark at exchanges is so low...he was one of the few who reacted, and yes...the discussion has drifted away from Quark sell orders to forking Quark...lol