Topic: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade - page 94. (Read 1031025 times)

Someone has suggested DI sold out of his qrk position and has been trying to buy back in as low as possible, hence driving away core members etc.

If DI holds a large amount of QRK then he must be motivated to see qrk succeed.  I have no idea why he would want the core members like qrkfx, coinmama and vic to leave or why he talks to them like he does.

Let's see, i mean it seems impossible to tell if he really believes what he says and does are for the benefit of qrk long term or not?

I suspect DI does want qrk to succeed but wants to do it "his way". Anything not exactly "his way" is firmly met with a wall of less than diplomatic criticism. More of a personally trait than him trying to drive the price of qrk down. Although if this kind of attitude towards other core members really does make them want out then that can lead to the same thing.

DI why not post your qrk address so we can see you're on board with qrk.  Seems like a conspiracy theory that you're anti qrk until you can buy back in but let's see. If you have a 100k qrk wager i guess you have a few more hundred k stashed away somewhere right?

QRKfx was a big loss to the qrk community in my opinion. His ideas and drive were very interesting and i think he had proven without doubt he was a loyal qrk supporter. The fact more people are not concerned about people like this leaving the community is worrying. Vic not being around is again worrying, he was the public driving force on this board for a long time.

The problem with qrks core member seems to be that they are very sensitive and not robust enough to push through their ideas to the community clearly. QRKfx's paper had some VERY interesting ideas but these were just pushed aside by simple negative remarks that really had nothing to back them up.  The core members should have formed a stable leadership and put in place a system where their suggested actions are put forward to the community and then analysed before being actioned.  We can not allow negative (or positive) comments to have weight without analysis it just makes no sense to say you do or don't approve without a valid reason that can be seen as logical to everyone else.

So let's get on with the leadership side of things.

Let's get the core members that have proven beyond doubt they are qrk supporters through hard work together and make all discussion public on the thread. Next step is to get some funds together to attract a new developer and project manager. If you look at 'hyper' they have a public development pot that is held by escrow for development and marketing purposes only.

Don't be shy guys if you have worked on qrk projects and are pro qrk put yourself forward to be part of the foundation. Once formed and we have some clear leadership (people that dare to suggest direct and purpose without feeling they are being bossy) the community can get behind some of these ideas and we can work towards getting some things done.

Anyone should be able to join the foundation so long as we know their motives are clearly pro qrk. The only way to really know this is to see they own a large amount of qrk. I mean sure a whale could buy up a ton of qrk to appear pro qrk when really his motives are anti qrk, but that is less likely and for now i can see no better way of testing qrk loyalty. It seems as soon as someone does not agree with someone else they are called trolls, shills, etc. This really would be less likely if they had a 500k quark in their wallet.

Sitting here waiting to be picked up by some huge multinational company as their chosen currency is not working out too well.  Let's build a few services out ourselves that use qrk and expand their user base then perhaps other companies and services will take note.


Let's also analyse( NOT just say it sounds good or bad) the ideas that have previously been put forward to help solve some of qrks perceived issues.


1. POS -  

Is POS proven to be less secure than POW only. What about the hybrid pos +pow? where are the experts sunnyking, rat4 etc to really get to the bottom of this issue.

we don't want to inflate the minting too much .... better still not at all.  
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There are many options/variations available here.

After reading through qrkfx's paper one part i like was the taxing side of things.  This gives a lot of incentive to help secure the chain.


We could cut off pow altogether and go full POS with the same inflation rate. However that won't be incentive enough. What though if we introduced a small tax on those that do not help secure the chain by having their wallet open for staking. That tax can be either sent to the foundation to fund projects/developers/services or given as random superblock rewards to staking wallets. I was against random superblocks for mining because it made no sense to burn electricity for a possible reward. However, as miner i have some machines running or at least my laptop full time anyway so why not leave my qrk wallet staking to avoid the small tax and to earn some qrk  and possibly a super pos block.

There can be many variations including pos+pow ....whatever we like.

The only issue i see is POS seems touchy about working with the qrk algo.  I know a couple of coins tried it and it was not a huge success.

Is the qrk algo even important to qrk anymore? i mean look at all the qrk clones they are dead. The algo doesn't mean all that much it would seem, especially when the POW phase is pretty much over. So what is the big deal about switching qrk at this point to another algo? lets discuss not scream that is profanity to suggest such a thing.

Of course this all may seem like a terrible idea to you, so let's hear why exactly it would be so bad. Let's analyse the idea in public. If it turns out to be a bad idea and we can all logically see why then we just forget it.



2 - the superblock (not mining superblocks)  - the one off 10% or whatever block held by escrows and to be released only upon community consultation for projects and services already completed.

Let's think of all the possible positives and negatives and weight them up.


3. The POB or QRK only ipo companion coin - the coin that will allow features and experimentation we do not want coded into qrk itself - that could provide the funding for services and projects that can be jointly shared with qrk if we as a community choose it to be so. It could also be used as a tool to bring back to the community those investors that have bunches of qrk but want no involvement with the qrk project.


again let's weigh the possible positives and negatives of this.


4 ROI projects - what projects , who will manage then? what will be their incentive? i like this idea of building out our own services or uses for qrk but how to get those qrk whales interested in investing?


If none of the above meet your fancy then what do you suggest for qrk - leave it as it is and see what happens? hopefully it will for some reason become more desirable to investors or businesses for some unknown reason in the future?


Before any of that though we need some leadership and public leadership at that. I notice on all communities the coin dies when there is no clearly defined leadership. When new leadership is on the scene the community will rally around this and things get done.

yes thank you - my only problem is with the issues around people trying to claim "its broken" especially after just watching all these other turds collapse, and Quark stays solid.

if we take the scams out  we are about 7 on the market cap - we are a good measure of where Cryto is if you want to be in Crypto you would be in Quark, i totally understand if people don;t want to be in crypto (its not a piece of cake to understand)

but if you want to be in "the investment" Crypto currency to hedge against Fiat - we are the free market one, and in a pretty good position.

but always remember my signature -  as they keep arguing "its broken"

i'm not only saying it i'm putting 100k Quark down as an offer so if anyone here has more faith in Bitcoin take my Quark from me.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crypto-currency-wager-cny-6-months-bitcoin-v-quark-100k-quark-on-offer-746500

this amount is not nothing for me - but i'm confident from here i have a gauge on this market -

Wager is Bitcoin V Quark in Chinese Yuan details in link for 6 months, clear % gain.

this is not directed at you maok - but i'm saying to the critics put up or shut up?

take me up on this offer.

so now when people start to cry on here i can just point them to the wager - (if they want to take it from that time we will define a new date from that time to 6 moths)

DigitalIndustry - don't let the criticisms affect you. Your points are original, relevant and informative. (Sure, the syntax is truly shite, who cares). You clearly have insights into cryptocurrency economics that almost no others have. You object to people suggesting screwing with QRK core code - damned right. I have seen you agitate and fight for QRK all over bitcointalk and other fora. You are an asset for QRK. Coinmama and many others are also working flat-out, pushing projects forward.

Everyone needs to just calm the fuck down. The only ones who should be shown aggression are assholes like Thule.

Well said. It seems that everyone is focused on price and pump and dumps nowadays and only the few, true crypto enthusiasts care about moving the coin forward, building utility, building community....

It's sad, but it's what the crypto world has devolved to.

things are more complex than `someone dumps 1 million then it means that quark will sky rocket`. more complex than a simple wanna-be scammy type like those who make such predictions.

Quarkers, be prepared for low prices, there is no demand at the moment, we need to create it by promoting our coin features: http://quarktalk.org/resources/quark-en.6/ .. Only after we educate more crypto users about Quark we will slowly and gradually rise in price. Don't listen to anyone who tells you Quark will raise with 100%. Those are economic-retards who have no idea how human psychology works.

Be aware if you see a sudden rise in price in any crypto currency, it only means that its under attack by scammers that are trying to pump and dump. Do not buy at those moments(what happened last December). Only buy when you are sure you want to invest. If you want to support Quark, firstly try to support its protocol by mining, then by promoting Quark and only then if you have spare money and want to invest buy Quarks.

This is a warning against the types who advertise that Quark will rise in price by 100%. They are only trying short-term tactics to gather more users. A long term tactic is only by education. Those who want to educate users about anything Quark related please add resources here: http://quarktalk.org/resources/ . If you are from other countries please translate here: http://quarktalk.org/resources/translation-needed.8/ You don't have to translate everything at once, the forum has a versioning system, you can do a sentence today in 10 minutes then you can update the resource in another day.

check out my new signatures !

when the tolling goes up Vlad you can see that as a fact that these tards might be about out for powder for this round as they have dumped about  1 million units.

all they are doing is solidifying our core group of investors, its about the dumbest policy ive ever witnessed.

so expect to see 100's of % ascent post Tard dump.

while you were wasting your energy here - innovation has been moving forward everywhere else?

are you ready to say you are bad at your job?

you should be on formal performance review,

you couldn't disrupt a kindergarten party, with an ice cream truck.

awesome pic ha ha


--- insert rant about how most of these crypto's are going to continue their descent down because they are manipulated up here's hoping you have lost lots of money and Quark investors are holding steady and gaining.

--  don't forget to fuck yourself. "masters of on-line influence"

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 - yeah superblocks were the net contribution,  who's was that ? then the ha ha "Quark burn?" 

meanwhile Quark holds its place as all the shit comes and goes - if you lost you are a retard.

its not fairy land we have to work for what we have, and screwing with the core code is the quickest way to sink Qaurk (of course.)

as we have seen recently "gimmicks" mean shit , so you are a retard (obviously)  go stick some cheese up your nose or something?

the "core group" got the Website done and all that occurred there was we negotiated with a talented Web Dev  "Jamez" and he made a great site -

then he helped make a great video -

in the future - if we want more great videos or more great web development we will raise a bounty and pay for it  < were is the fuck tard democracy here ? retard?

we want work done , we are paying for it?

For example I wanted the style sheets done for the new Reedit - i posted this on the "Buttcoin" "Cryptocurrency" and i think "Dogecoin" Reddits that i needed this done.

now i have someone that says they "specialize" in this - contact me they are going to style the Reddit and i will pay them in Quark < again did anyone hold a vote tard.?

I fully realize that some of you people are not trolls and are just genuinely stupid.

  ( its my job to figure out who are just stupid and who are trolls)  ( i have a pretty good assessment ) (i'll be much nicer to you if you are just a retard. )

and guess what ? 

if you don't want to destroy Quark  you are my friend ?

I honestly don't care how many chromosomes you do or don't have, you don't want to destroy Quark and/or humanity you are my friend.

If you are talking about core members than this is the most retarded statement i've ever seen lol, they have done more for quark then you will ever do.

hey K1773R i know he gets a little emotional i've read a lot of Vlads writing on here -

to answer you Vlad - yes basically they are trolling to drop the price , but not to buy back, they are actually helping us distribute - they either work for "BTC directly" or are employees of and "agency" that works directly for Banks and  has total disregard for the US constitution.

to be clear they are NOT federal employees (even if they think they are )  they work for large commercial Banks and then by proxy a group of Banks.

they are literally the enemy of humanity Vlad.  (by proxy)

Thats a good idea
Quoting him but removing text, just leaving the link is also an option.

I quited Vlad2Vlad, therefore i was talking about him.

Now, not only is there a way to 'ignore' posters, there is also a way to post invisible text (for some posters like DGI,it seems).

Maybe we could experiment with different text colours, and see which posters are excluded from reading.

I don't know of whom @K1773R was talking, but I was referring at the user which causes lots of adversities and insulting posts towards quarkers
Digitalindustry.

As for Thule it doesn't matter because no one cares for what he says.

Can you clarify which poster specifically ? (because Thule and Digitalindustry have a varied history)

Also others are asked not to quote him in their replies.

You can ignore this guy, hes slandering in other threads too. See IXCoin thread. Devcoin is also a good example.
Tens of thousands lines of text with 1-2% meaning.