Topic: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade - page 97. (Read 1031025 times)

The total number of transactions in the blockchain is 44 mils.

If we think of the 2 mils users , that would come to roughly 20 transactions per user.
Don't you think that this is very very low?
Not counting that there is a former satoshidice user who managed to do 10k bets.
Not counting all the mixers , rewards going out from mining pools , people sending their coins to storage and switching wallets.
I tracked the cons I've sent to one exchange and they did 5 transactions until the coins finally hit their storage address.


Don't forget that mt gox which people thought of it as being huge had only 90k active users that ever did a trade on it in 4 years.

  IT WILL BE THE ANGRY FREE MARKET  

THAT EVOLVES THE PROTOCOL  

IT WON'T BE ME

 

anger is an energy , you think?

Who are you to decide anyway? Just like max said himself you don't represent quark The community and the dev decides and if you don't like that feel free to leave. An application, crypto, brand needs to keep innovating and upgrading to stay in the game, whether it's marketings wise or new features wise.

The news regarding Bitcoin adoption should see a fair price for bitcoin of over $1K. The forces that keep bitcoin prices down are the speculators and traders which have much small margins than they had last year.

As for Quark, we are undervalued at the moment, we have economic features better most altcoins, better than Bitcoin; we're based on the legit crypto system POW and we have security in place against double spending unlike Bitcoin; Quark has potential but that doesn't mean immediate success, the potential may remain unfulfilled eventually we don't know, but we have all the elements for any investors coming now and they educate about Quark, they will rather take a longshot on such potential.

I think a fair price for Bitcoin is between :

$15 ~ $20 upon which the market can determine its price.

but with its being  "Blakcoined and NXT'd" that's really not going to happen and it might just fade away...

it depends on the power of "Corporate media"

Exaggerated ? There are more than 2 mils purses on blockchain.info alone!! If you take the rest of the big companies like coinbase, bitpay, etc. there are well more than 2 millions users, active users ? well on a daily basis there are about 60-70K transactions, so there you go.

Why should they join Quark ? There are a lot of reasons, read here: http://quarktalk.cc/resources/quark-en.6/, scroll down to "Quark advantages"

I own about 150K Quark, there are many others like myself, and there are only couple which own more than 1 million. This is initial phase just like Bitcoin has gone through, when Wink brothers joined Bitcoin and fueled the price to $100 they owned more than 1% of entire btcs. In Quark the only ones who own more than 1%(2,5Mils) are the exchanges and probably 1-2 major investors.

Like I said the great thing about Quark is that the late adopters still have good buying opportunities, unlike bitcoin late adopters.

as of course opposed to the maybe 70 people that own most of the Bitcoin that exist and conveniently split them up into 1000's of wallets?

dude this is Bitcointalk you are not "Memeing" anyone here - maybe some intellectually disabled.  (no comments)

you need to spin this shit on CNN or Twitter where tards believe it??

1)  why should they join when at most 100 poeple control the majority of coins.
This is a big no for any attempt to switch to POS also.
2) If the top guys won't sell distribution won't be spread. And you can't force them to do so.

And ... 10 000 users of what? You mean holders as there is nothing you can really do with quarks.
Also the 2 mils for bitcoin is exaggerated  doubt there are more than 200 000 to 300 000.

LOL

yeah Blackcoins distribution is the best on the market as well ! - and i think NXT has 20 NXT spread across 200 million addresses right?

  : D

you think anyones buying that?

i mean go right ahead ha ha ...

You need to educate more on gold, it is used in a lot of things beside blings, like electronics, microcomputers, space satellites, it's a good conductor and doesn't oxidise much and doesn't discolour.

Yeah ? try to also compare the number of users? Bitcoin over 2 millions, Quark barely optimistic 10K users. What do you expect ? Once more users join, the distribution will be spread much alike Bitcoin. The major difference and improvement of Quark is that due to its inflationary model and constant rewards, the late Quark adopters are not so unfair treated like the late Bitcoin adopters.

Can you advice me stratum proxy for quark? I'm using currently https://github.com/gritche70/Stratum-mining-proxy-quark, but I can't figure out how to setup it for quark. There is only doublesha and scrypt algos.

You;re the one talking about bitcoin distribution?


Wealth Distribution Top 10/100/1,000/10,000 addesses

quark  37.06% / 64.74% / 89.50% / 98.77% Total
bitcoin 6.46% / 19.53% / 39.42% / 63.47% Total

I truly don't understand what you are saying, you are simply speculating on their social & employment statuses which you cannot prove one way or the other. Your above post is useless, please try to participate with more constructive comments in future not only insults.

The Quark protocol is fine right now - if it needs to evolve that will happen.

it seem very robust right now

you have witnessed two pathetic troll attempts by paid "we couldn't get a job anywhere else and failed political science" "on-line influencers."

i'm sorry you fell for it mate.

on the other side of things - read my previous comment.

ok based on this theory of yours the world needs gold marketing right? - i mean Gold is just basically a fixed store of value:

-  it gives the bearer no interest
-  It can't be leveraged
- It can just be purchased or sold.

why does gold have any value at all - do you use gold for things?

and yeah sure you can't pose any meaningful argument but you just say the "free market doesn't matter"

well the free market was saying nice things about you just the other day (to me) , i don't know why you now want to go and bad mouth the free market today?

i will contact the free market and get it to send you a txt see if you guys can work it out?

Gold is a chunk of metal - silver is used in electronics , Quark is a free market crypto, they all hedge against zany Corporate issued pieces of paper.

that's all the marketing you need.

I agree with the point about Kolin, he makes other quarkers feel like he holds the absolute truth. However I don't agree about former core supporters to give up because of him, it just doesn't make sense. I see nothing from him except that he tries to promote Quark in his way. I don't agree with his constant trashing, even myself, but as long as his main goal is Quark then I can overlook his personal attacks towards myself.

As for the dev, I don't agree, I know he is not so active in community but his work is public: https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark/commit/79c3190f111cd97cfa653c382417499c1614948c, In december has implemented Quark automatic checkpoints. Looking for more work: https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark/tree/master/src, he has done updates to the code in almost every month of 2014. He is now updating Quark to a fully improved version: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8310086

For Quark to succeed it has to be supported by every quarker, not only by its coders.

We need definitely some new blood, the fact is that i've been contributing my own way from 7 months ago and to see that things have not helped is very annoying and on the other hand kolin is making new members who come by and want to have a say in quark leave! I've been witnessing two waves of core members coming and leaving where kolin has been against them eventually, one group in december and one now and taking their promising project with them (like bubble up, won't happen for quark anymore).

Our dev is only updating the wallet nothing else because he has no time for other features, so in case there will be a promising feature out there, there is no dev to implement it on quark.

We certainly need a strong marketing team, which should mainly come from its adopters. Lets get ourselves involved in promotion and lets not send/wait for one man to do a work which we can do ourselves.

As for the `new devs` I think their role is a bit overrated. Go and read yesterday's article of chief Bitcoin coder Gavin Andresen: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/527051/the-man-who-really-built-bitcoin/, he concludes with: "After the transaction issue is resolved, the work of looking after its code will increasingly be a job for caretakers, not master builders". Our dev has done his job and implemented security features like protection against double spends attacks by using automatic checkpointing. Our dev is constantly improving the protocol, the latest releases are public to see in my signature. Now is quarkers job and decision whether to use the currency and promote it, or to simply wait for miracles from its dev team or from an supposedly self appointed Quark Face.

The most important role of a currency is that of its users which Gavin Andresen describes: "The value of any currency ultimately rests on a collective belief" Which can be seen in our community and we would make an excellent case study in this sense, with some of our old quarkers giving up their work because they lost their belief along the way.

So whats wrong, did Quark get attacked ? No. Thats not it, it is simply a matter of belief. Maybe the collapsing prices ? Oh yes thats it :-) This has caused an vicious cycle in which the community is crumbling because most entered Quark for wrong reasons and had huge financially/socially expectations.

Quark moves on, true quarkers are free to join the new faucet forum, lets try to build a better/stronger community: http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/2dpw71/join_quark_faucet_forum/ The role of the forum is mainly for information, so please add new resources like tutorials and guides here: http://quarktalk.cc/resources/