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legendary
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August 16, 2014, 08:58:00 AM
So kolin what are convincing reasons for a quark holder to stay in quark and what is going to make quark prices to go up?

because of the reasons i've stated over and over again.

if you don't believe in Quark get out of crypto -  there are others in the free market.

Zeta is fully distributed but its also SHA256

Digitalcoin is now floating pretty much in the free market after the Devs dumped its Scrypt however.

Prime is CPU only which has kept it pretty well priced as no one could really "corner" that market on distribution.

Caps (PoW PoS hybrid ) started out manipulated  but confidence collapsed with much growing pains now its been revitalized no single entity has a huge monopoly on it i don't believe.


what else..... let me think...

FTC has seen a lot of volume you could say a lot of people hold it because it has been constantly mined and dumped (similar to Quarks birth)  ( i still think there are better options but its free market you have to admit)

Infinitecoin - Mega - World - all been around the pump dump scene to be held by most of the market.

the POINT is neutral control

if you invest in something that a few people hold  (or you can reasonably assume only a few people hold ) YOU will lose -

if YOU want to lose , keep doing that .

if you want to invest and hedge against probable fiat value loss  ( you own local fiat currency losing a lot of purchasing power)

invest in non manipulated Crypto.



So now quark is not really mineable, wouldn't a pos/pow be more suitable? or implementing a new algorithm? Why don't you get some new devs, quark doesn't have an active dev to implement promising features if there is one, don't count too much on max guevera he won't do more than maintaining the code and cut the crap with neutral control, free market blabla. People want to see marketing, projects, dev activity. You can't just have a wishful thinking attitude.

The only marketing project quark has now is shaqfu which comes out in 2015, also quark has a perk where shaq will talk on quark. These are the only things right now, but it's not enough.
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August 16, 2014, 08:53:36 AM
oh you deleted your post but i quoted it?

anyhow there is your answer
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August 16, 2014, 08:50:49 AM
So kolin what are convincing reasons for a quark holder to stay in quark and what is going to make quark prices to go up?

because of the reasons i've stated over and over again.

if you don't believe in Quark get out of crypto -  there are others in the free market.

Zeta is fully distributed but its also SHA256

Digitalcoin is now floating pretty much in the free market after the Devs dumped its Scrypt however.

Prime is CPU only which has kept it pretty well priced as no one could really "corner" that market on distribution.

Caps (PoW PoS hybrid ) started out manipulated  but confidence collapsed with much growing pains now its been revitalized no single entity has a huge monopoly on it i don't believe.


what else..... let me think...

FTC has seen a lot of volume you could say a lot of people hold it because it has been constantly mined and dumped (similar to Quarks birth)  ( i still think there are better options but its free market you have to admit)

Infinitecoin - Mega - World - all been around the pump dump scene to be held by most of the market.

the POINT is neutral control

if you invest in something that a few people hold  (or you can reasonably assume only a few people hold ) YOU will lose -

if YOU want to lose , keep doing that .

if you want to invest and hedge against probable fiat value loss  ( you own local fiat currency losing a lot of purchasing power)

invest in non manipulated Crypto.

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August 16, 2014, 08:21:46 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Get back to me any time ....

take your time.

It's number one of course. And is called BITCOIN.
And i cn name at least 5 better coins there :
Litecoin , Dogecoin , Peercoin , Monero , Blackcoin

at least someone stepped up.

thanks Niothor

Bitcoin  -

Bitcoin is an effective monopoly - http://www.technologyreview.com/news/528431/rise-of-powerful-mining-pools-forces-rethink-of-bitcoin-design/

everyone knows this.

Mining monopoly = Price manipulation, as the few that gain all the new units can just "agree" not to sell them.

that's not a free market matey.  - that an it is nowhere near full distribution next few halving should bring interesting things



Litecoin  -

Best argument is for Litecoin - however there is still a lot of evidence that Scrypt ASICs were out a long time before any of the market had them primarily in China -

now that the rest of the market has ASICs  and larger ones coming the price is falling, who is going to invest the capital to save the Cap and give all these new miners a free lunch?

Litecoin is "Finding a market price"  no where near priced by the market.


Dogecoin  -

Simple was born into ASIC monopoly got pumped by a few big BTC holders but they are bleeding both transaction fees and now there are Billion of units - its finding a market price as we speak - when it is fully distributed we will know more, but its is not market driven right now.


Peercoin very much respect Sunnyking but Peercoin is a total monopoly - everyone knows this. its PoS  and held by a few big players.


Monero same deal - its the "we've pumped it" ; "now your turn to buy it at our inflated price guyz" no market to be seen its just too new - it will even out in time, so we will see in future with Monero

Blackcoin   LOL
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August 16, 2014, 08:10:09 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Get back to me any time ....

take your time.

It's number one of course. And is called BITCOIN.
And i cn name at least 5 better coins there :
Litecoin , Dogecoin , Peercoin , Monero , Blackcoin.

And no quark is not fully distributed. You can still get coins from mining.
legendary
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August 16, 2014, 08:09:31 AM


quarkfx is peter and a very talented guy who contributed a lot to quark and no he is not the peter you mean, the one you mean was another guy an experienced forex trader who wanted to build quark amongst with other guys but were blocked by you and left quark because they couldn't get a hang of the main dev to cooperate with him.

Your lies and constant conspiracies of "they wanted to take over quark because it was a Threat" is stupid and pretty much settled quarks downfall from that moment. You basically took over and i believe YOU felt threatened to lose your own leadership which you have failed miserably to deliver. All i've seen from them was helping to build a legit infrastructure and trying to fix what could be fixed.

Also there is nothing wrong with having multiple developers, they wanted to be a part of the dev because max guevera the main dev did NOT communicate and pretty much disappeared at a crucial time when he was needed the most. Also i couldn't believe you were deciding for max, he stated himself that he is open working with multiple devs.

yeah lets explain that - :

the main objective and meme back then was that "hash will be too low and Quark will be attacked"

so i can go find all that (but am not going to waste my energy)  

the fact is Quark is still right here and still the leader, it had a price drop because it ran up to far way too quick, if you can't understand that well what can i say? i can't say anything without insulting the credibility of your intellect, and i don't want to do that because i think you are capable  of learning and are capable of understanding these very simple principals.

you see its the same reason everyone is losing "wealth" right now (LTC DRK you name it) , because you see all of the market (except a few) has been manipulated, but the problem is.... you see, lets look at the difference..

Quark is being actively "suppressed" so see the opposite effect here , show me another crypto on the market right now that is fully distributed where people are even contesting that there is price suppression.


you see if you think hard you will learn...

so you have to decide now if it is or isn't true, what i've just said.

if you decide its true, what can you take away from that ?

if you decide its not true then explain to us all here why?



How is quark still the leader? Don't lie so much


https://coinmarketcap.com/


^^^^

there is Coin market Cap -

just give me the Crypo above Quark that is driven by the free market.

Your "free market" argument every time is so retarded. Go get new devs/marketing peeps involved instead of posting crap 24/7
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August 16, 2014, 08:05:45 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Get back to me any time ....

take your time.
hero member
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August 16, 2014, 08:03:21 AM


quarkfx is peter and a very talented guy who contributed a lot to quark and no he is not the peter you mean, the one you mean was another guy an experienced forex trader who wanted to build quark amongst with other guys but were blocked by you and left quark because they couldn't get a hang of the main dev to cooperate with him.

Your lies and constant conspiracies of "they wanted to take over quark because it was a Threat" is stupid and pretty much settled quarks downfall from that moment. You basically took over and i believe YOU felt threatened to lose your own leadership which you have failed miserably to deliver. All i've seen from them was helping to build a legit infrastructure and trying to fix what could be fixed.

Also there is nothing wrong with having multiple developers, they wanted to be a part of the dev because max guevera the main dev did NOT communicate and pretty much disappeared at a crucial time when he was needed the most. Also i couldn't believe you were deciding for max, he stated himself that he is open working with multiple devs.

yeah lets explain that - :

the main objective and meme back then was that "hash will be too low and Quark will be attacked"

so i can go find all that (but am not going to waste my energy)  

the fact is Quark is still right here and still the leader, it had a price drop because it ran up to far way too quick, if you can't understand that well what can i say? i can't say anything without insulting the credibility of your intellect, and i don't want to do that because i think you are capable  of learning and are capable of understanding these very simple principals.

you see its the same reason everyone is losing "wealth" right now (LTC DRK you name it) , because you see all of the market (except a few) has been manipulated, but the problem is.... you see, lets look at the difference..

Quark is being actively "suppressed" so see the opposite effect here , show me another crypto on the market right now that is fully distributed where people are even contesting that there is price suppression.


you see if you think hard you will learn...

so you have to decide now if it is or isn't true, what i've just said.

if you decide its true, what can you take away from that ?

if you decide its not true then explain to us all here why?



How is quark still the leader? Don't lie so much


https://coinmarketcap.com/


^^^^

there is Coin market Cap -

just give me the Crypo above Quark that is driven by the free market.
legendary
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August 16, 2014, 07:47:30 AM


quarkfx is peter and a very talented guy who contributed a lot to quark and no he is not the peter you mean, the one you mean was another guy an experienced forex trader who wanted to build quark amongst with other guys but were blocked by you and left quark because they couldn't get a hang of the main dev to cooperate with him.

Your lies and constant conspiracies of "they wanted to take over quark because it was a Threat" is stupid and pretty much settled quarks downfall from that moment. You basically took over and i believe YOU felt threatened to lose your own leadership which you have failed miserably to deliver. All i've seen from them was helping to build a legit infrastructure and trying to fix what could be fixed.

Also there is nothing wrong with having multiple developers, they wanted to be a part of the dev because max guevera the main dev did NOT communicate and pretty much disappeared at a crucial time when he was needed the most. Also i couldn't believe you were deciding for max, he stated himself that he is open working with multiple devs.

yeah lets explain that - :

the main objective and meme back then was that "hash will be too low and Quark will be attacked"

so i can go find all that (but am not going to waste my energy)  

the fact is Quark is still right here and still the leader, it had a price drop because it ran up to far way too quick, if you can't understand that well what can i say? i can't say anything without insulting the credibility of your intellect, and i don't want to do that because i think you are capable  of learning and are capable of understanding these very simple principals.

you see its the same reason everyone is losing "wealth" right now (LTC DRK you name it) , because you see all of the market (except a few) has been manipulated, but the problem is.... you see, lets look at the difference..

Quark is being actively "suppressed" so see the opposite effect here , show me another crypto on the market right now that is fully distributed where people are even contesting that there is price suppression.


you see if you think hard you will learn...

so you have to decide now if it is or isn't true, what i've just said.

if you decide its true, what can you take away from that ?

if you decide its not true then explain to us all here why?



How is quark still the leader? Don't lie so much
hero member
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August 16, 2014, 07:30:44 AM
Alright.

Quarkfx, where are you? Can I please have the underlying photoshop of this effect?
Or whatever software you used to exactly create the quarklogo.


Btw. I produced several animated videos for Quark, networked hundreds of hours to get people into the core group and worked with them, organized team meetings, set up a team folder structure and organized the designs, translated press releases, wrote to potential partners, developed the concept for the new forum and provided an endless amount of artworks for others that I never asked any credits for. I guess you somehow get why I find your attempts to put me in the "not doing anything for Quark" corner rather amusing with your few meme GIFs that can be generated within seconds. I see from your potential that my work isn´t needed anymore and will consequently take it offline.


I sold my funds and will get involved in other projects. If you need work to be done, please contact others.


: (

sorry to hear that.

i hope it wasn't anything i said?

anything you do for Quark is appreciated - just not advocating the destruction of everyones investment that's all ...

but you can even do that if you want (advocate it) but if the market doesn't support it you have to accept that (without tears) (sniff sniff)

:' (
sr. member
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August 16, 2014, 07:17:14 AM
Alright.

Quarkfx, where are you? Can I please have the underlying photoshop of this effect?
Or whatever software you used to exactly create the quarklogo.


Btw. I produced several animated videos for Quark, networked hundreds of hours to get people into the core group and worked with them, organized team meetings, set up a team folder structure and organized the designs, translated press releases, wrote to potential partners, developed the concept for the new forum and provided an endless amount of artworks for others that I never asked any credits for. I guess you somehow get why I find your attempts to put me in the "not doing anything for Quark" corner rather amusing with your few meme GIFs that can be generated within seconds. I see from your potential that my work isn´t needed anymore and will consequently take it offline.


I sold my funds and will get involved in other projects. If you need work to be done, please contact others.
hero member
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August 16, 2014, 07:03:55 AM
Who's going to subsidize the Litecoin and Darkcoin bagholders?


i notice it was only 6,000 Darkcoin that crashed it price, that seems like a fragile price manipulate market to me lol

oh well another turd sinks to the bottom of the toilet ?

we will see i guess?

meanwhile there has been some "NXT" hack - (/which no one cares about as there is no one in the market lol)

NXT Volume :$ 70,264   
Quark Volume: $ 1,318.

Attacking other before looking in your own backyard brings more harm

ps.
you should really try and get rid of that - trust.
It makes everything worse for quark also.

I love the trust rating i worked hard for it - never deleting it.

niothor come on you can do better than that?

quoting NXT volume meme?

dude go rewrite that and come back an have another shot.
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August 16, 2014, 06:57:01 AM
Who's going to subsidize the Litecoin and Darkcoin bagholders?


i notice it was only 6,000 Darkcoin that crashed it price, that seems like a fragile price manipulate market to me lol

oh well another turd sinks to the bottom of the toilet ?

we will see i guess?

meanwhile there has been some "NXT" hack - (/which no one cares about as there is no one in the market lol)

NXT Volume :$ 70,264   
Quark Volume: $ 1,318.

Attacking other before looking in your own backyard brings more harm

ps.
you should really try and get rid of that - trust.
It makes everything worse for quark also.
hero member
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August 16, 2014, 06:54:14 AM


quarkfx is peter and a very talented guy who contributed a lot to quark and no he is not the peter you mean, the one you mean was another guy an experienced forex trader who wanted to build quark amongst with other guys but were blocked by you and left quark because they couldn't get a hang of the main dev to cooperate with him.

Your lies and constant conspiracies of "they wanted to take over quark because it was a Threat" is stupid and pretty much settled quarks downfall from that moment. You basically took over and i believe YOU felt threatened to lose your own leadership which you have failed miserably to deliver. All i've seen from them was helping to build a legit infrastructure and trying to fix what could be fixed.

Also there is nothing wrong with having multiple developers, they wanted to be a part of the dev because max guevera the main dev did NOT communicate and pretty much disappeared at a crucial time when he was needed the most. Also i couldn't believe you were deciding for max, he stated himself that he is open working with multiple devs.

yeah lets explain that - :

the main objective and meme back then was that "hash will be too low and Quark will be attacked"

so i can go find all that (but am not going to waste my energy)  

the fact is Quark is still right here and still the leader, it had a price drop because it ran up to far way too quick, if you can't understand that well what can i say? i can't say anything without insulting the credibility of your intellect, and i don't want to do that because i think you are capable  of learning and are capable of understanding these very simple principals.

you see its the same reason everyone is losing "wealth" right now (LTC DRK you name it) , because you see all of the market (except a few) has been manipulated, but the problem is.... you see, lets look at the difference..

Quark is being actively "suppressed" so see the opposite effect here , show me another crypto on the market right now that is fully distributed where people are even contesting that there is price suppression.


you see if you think hard you will learn...

so you have to decide now if it is or isn't true, what i've just said.

if you decide its true, what can you take away from that ?

if you decide its not true then explain to us all here why?

legendary
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August 16, 2014, 06:49:16 AM

where are VIC, Qrkfx, coinmama and some of the serious people who get things done for QrK?

I have not heard from VIC in a while now and he was the main driving force behind qrk for quite some time. QRKfx has done a lot of hard work recently and really i see his efforts poorly rewarded here. I mean NOBODY has any specific negative points to make that were backed up by any kind of specific reasoning we could analyse together. I just heard a lot of " i don't like the sound of it " kind of remarks that really mean nothing.

Without these kind of people pushing us forward we are going nowhere.

Let's get the qrk foundation set up so we know who they are. We have no real leadership here. Yes, Max has been a little more active which is great but we really need some leadership to get some direction and mid term goals we can all get behind.

Let's not let the thread degenerate in to gifs and animations. This is the signature of dying coins.


Vic stated that he is very busy with his job, but hopefully we will see him back soon. Quarkfx, c4shm3n, y3llowblackbird the guys who contributed a lot to quark i think are supporting more the PoB concept, c4shm3n and quarkfx i believe won't continue to work with quark anymore which quarkfx shortly explained here http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/2d5521/proof_of_burn_concept_alpha_draft/

Coinmama i think she also agrees with quarkfx concerns, but i'm not sure if she is still with quark.
legendary
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August 16, 2014, 06:28:38 AM
hm thought it was quarkfx design since the reddit banner is his work

no i think Quarkfx is Peter from the original forum the guys that were trying to say they were "Quark developers"  - they had to try to take over the Crypto because it was a threat to all the other price manipulated crypto - so they panicked and started to say they were "trying to help" Quark from "low hash"

they are rehashing that now and its still not working  ....

its kind of sad a pathetic really?

if Quark fx isn't "Peter" i apologize of course as it would be an insult to  call you a "retard."

quarkfx is peter and a very talented guy who contributed a lot to quark and no he is not the peter you mean, the one you mean was another guy an experienced forex trader who wanted to build quark amongst with other guys but were blocked by you and left quark because they couldn't get a hang of the main dev to cooperate with him.

Your lies and constant conspiracies of "they wanted to take over quark because it was a Threat" is stupid and pretty much settled quarks downfall from that moment. You basically took over and i believe you felt threatened to lose your own leadership which you have failed miserably to deliver. All i've seen from them was helping to build a legit infrastructure and trying to fix what could be fixed.

Also there is nothing wrong with having multiple developers, they wanted to be a part of the dev because max guevera the main dev did not communicate and pretty much disappeared at a crucial time when he was needed the most. Also i couldn't believe you were deciding for max, he stated himself that he is open working with multiple devs.
hero member
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‘Try to be nice’
August 16, 2014, 06:10:58 AM
Who's going to subsidize the Litecoin and Darkcoin bagholders?


i notice it was only 6,000 Darkcoin that crashed it price, that seems like a fragile price manipulate market to me lol

oh well another turd sinks to the bottom of the toilet ?

we will see i guess?

meanwhile there has been some "NXT" hack - (/which no one cares about as there is no one in the market lol)
hero member
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‘Try to be nice’
August 16, 2014, 06:07:14 AM
hm thought it was quarkfx design since the reddit banner is his work

no i think Quarkfx is Peter from the original forum the guys that were trying to say they were "Quark developers"  - they had to try to take over the Crypto because it was a threat to all the other price manipulated crypto - so they panicked and started to say they were "trying to help" Quark from "low hash"

they are rehashing that now and its still not working  ....

its kind of sad a pathetic really?

if Quark fx isn't "Peter" i apologize of course as it would be an insult to  call you a "retard."
legendary
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August 16, 2014, 06:05:24 AM

where are VIC, Qrkfx, coinmama and some of the serious people who get things done for QrK?

I have not heard from VIC in a while now and he was the main driving force behind qrk for quite some time. QRKfx has done a lot of hard work recently and really i see his efforts poorly rewarded here. I mean NOBODY has any specific negative points to make that were backed up by any kind of specific reasoning we could analyse together. I just heard a lot of " i don't like the sound of it " kind of remarks that really mean nothing.

Without these kind of people pushing us forward we are going nowhere.

Let's get the qrk foundation set up so we know who they are. We have no real leadership here. Yes, Max has been a little more active which is great but we really need some leadership to get some direction and mid term goals we can all get behind.

Let's not let the thread degenerate in to gifs and animations. This is the signature of dying coins.


legendary
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August 16, 2014, 06:03:48 AM
QRKfx ... any word on core?

I think he is in contact with devs from previous messages, although an update would nice.

I think a good time to release a coin might be when Bitcoin starts going on the upside, which has positive influence on the released coin as well (but it's hard to plan and you never know if Bitcoin even might go up like it did before) From there it's the matter of dev involvement with the community to keep it interesting which quark failed to do at the time.
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