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Topic: [ANN] Quantum1Net - ⚡ A QUANTUM SAFE DATA TRANSMISSION PLATFORM ⚡ - page 45. (Read 5457 times)

newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 1
Guys, why are you even contemplating investment? The tech does not work. In fact there is no tech. Read the whitepaper & the yellowpaper. Not a hint of a real technical implementation.
It is all unrelated pictures of lasers and of old appliances with no relation to the text. Seriously it is enough to put "quantum-resistant" and "blockchain" together and you pull out your wallets?
Wake up guys.

Back to you regarding the white- and yellow paper, have you actually read it? It is clearly stated that there is already a working quantum key generator that provides the necessary random numbers for key generation. They also provide numbers to back up their claims.
If you've ever set foot inside a quantum optics lab you'd know they are just what the pictures show, a maze of lenses and prisms.
This project shows great promise imo, the threat of quantum cracking is real and I can promise you that much that the governments are not going to share their quantum secure encryption with the people. This project is very much needed,

I have read the paper, and it (badly) describes a quantum random number generator. I happen to have an almost exact same setup in my own lab (can show pics if you want), and it has nothing to do with protecting against quantum computers and Shor's algorithm. Check my twitter thread for more details: https://twitter.com/Jogenfors/status/956627886496272384
do you read both, whitepaper and yellowpaper?

Yes.
member
Activity: 392
Merit: 10
Guys, why are you even contemplating investment? The tech does not work. In fact there is no tech. Read the whitepaper & the yellowpaper. Not a hint of a real technical implementation.
It is all unrelated pictures of lasers and of old appliances with no relation to the text. Seriously it is enough to put "quantum-resistant" and "blockchain" together and you pull out your wallets?
Wake up guys.
they are still working in the project, they didn't launched the presale already
full member
Activity: 434
Merit: 100
Guys, why are you even contemplating investment? The tech does not work. In fact there is no tech. Read the whitepaper & the yellowpaper. Not a hint of a real technical implementation.
It is all unrelated pictures of lasers and of old appliances with no relation to the text. Seriously it is enough to put "quantum-resistant" and "blockchain" together and you pull out your wallets?
Wake up guys.

Back to you regarding the white- and yellow paper, have you actually read it? It is clearly stated that there is already a working quantum key generator that provides the necessary random numbers for key generation. They also provide numbers to back up their claims.
If you've ever set foot inside a quantum optics lab you'd know they are just what the pictures show, a maze of lenses and prisms.
This project shows great promise imo, the threat of quantum cracking is real and I can promise you that much that the governments are not going to share their quantum secure encryption with the people. This project is very much needed,

I have read the paper, and it (badly) describes a quantum random number generator. I happen to have an almost exact same setup in my own lab (can show pics if you want), and it has nothing to do with protecting against quantum computers and Shor's algorithm. Check my twitter thread for more details: https://twitter.com/Jogenfors/status/956627886496272384
do you read both, whitepaper and yellowpaper?
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 1
Guys, why are you even contemplating investment? The tech does not work. In fact there is no tech. Read the whitepaper & the yellowpaper. Not a hint of a real technical implementation.
It is all unrelated pictures of lasers and of old appliances with no relation to the text. Seriously it is enough to put "quantum-resistant" and "blockchain" together and you pull out your wallets?
Wake up guys.

Back to you regarding the white- and yellow paper, have you actually read it? It is clearly stated that there is already a working quantum key generator that provides the necessary random numbers for key generation. They also provide numbers to back up their claims.
If you've ever set foot inside a quantum optics lab you'd know they are just what the pictures show, a maze of lenses and prisms.
This project shows great promise imo, the threat of quantum cracking is real and I can promise you that much that the governments are not going to share their quantum secure encryption with the people. This project is very much needed,

I have read the paper, and it (badly) describes a quantum random number generator. I happen to have an almost exact same setup in my own lab (can show pics if you want), and it has nothing to do with protecting against quantum computers and Shor's algorithm. Check my twitter thread for more details: https://twitter.com/Jogenfors/status/956627886496272384

You actually called me out on your twitter and made fun of me in a most childish way. Shouldn't an actual PhD have a bit more dignity and professionalism?
Besides, Quantum1Net appears to have responded to you, your allegations that they refused to comment on your claims are false. How can you claim that their idea is fraudulent if you refuse to even look at their work?



Wrong. I have asked quantum1net several times about technical information. I have received none. I have not refused to look at it. I have refused to sign an NDA. There is an important difference.
full member
Activity: 448
Merit: 101
token unsold will be burn Grin , i always like that concept because make token price will rise and rises.  Smiley
there are times that the teams don't burn, they just give to their investors

Now a days companies are following some rules, if coin left after the ICO, they are issuing in a dividends ways every month in order to encourage the investors. Some companies are using the burning model in order to control the dumps.
both ways are goods, whatever they do it will be fine
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Guys, why are you even contemplating investment? The tech does not work. In fact there is no tech. Read the whitepaper & the yellowpaper. Not a hint of a real technical implementation.
It is all unrelated pictures of lasers and of old appliances with no relation to the text. Seriously it is enough to put "quantum-resistant" and "blockchain" together and you pull out your wallets?
Wake up guys.

Back to you regarding the white- and yellow paper, have you actually read it? It is clearly stated that there is already a working quantum key generator that provides the necessary random numbers for key generation. They also provide numbers to back up their claims.
If you've ever set foot inside a quantum optics lab you'd know they are just what the pictures show, a maze of lenses and prisms.
This project shows great promise imo, the threat of quantum cracking is real and I can promise you that much that the governments are not going to share their quantum secure encryption with the people. This project is very much needed,

I have read the paper, and it (badly) describes a quantum random number generator. I happen to have an almost exact same setup in my own lab (can show pics if you want), and it has nothing to do with protecting against quantum computers and Shor's algorithm. Check my twitter thread for more details: https://twitter.com/Jogenfors/status/956627886496272384

You actually called me out on your twitter and made fun of me in a most childish way. Shouldn't an actual PhD have a bit more dignity and professionalism?
Besides, Quantum1Net appears to have responded to you, your allegations that they refused to comment on your claims are false. How can you claim that their idea is fraudulent if you refuse to even look at their work?

member
Activity: 140
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We at Quantum1Net would like to bring certain facts to the light regarding Jonathan Jogenfors's recent attack upon us.
Jonathan is in the business of creating a product directly competing with ours, a "quantum bitcoin" (https://arxiv.org/abs/1604.01383) making the motive behind his attacks dubious.

In addition, Jonathan have not had any special access our work and is thus unable to make any statement about it's veracity. We have been in contact with Jonathan and offered him to review our work, an offer he refused, instead opting to attack us. Jonathan demanded access to our proprietary research without signing an NDA, and when refused this he attacked us on social media and has made unsourced claims defaming our product and reputation.



We would also like to point out that Jonathan registered an account on BitcoinTalk solely to attack our product, in addition, his reddit history pertains almost exclusively to cars. This “review” of our ICO is his first foray into that kind of work, which again plays into the fact that our product is in direct competition with his “quantum bitcoin”

We will contact our legal advisors and LiU, we also advise Jonathan to do the same.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 1
Guys, why are you even contemplating investment? The tech does not work. In fact there is no tech. Read the whitepaper & the yellowpaper. Not a hint of a real technical implementation.
It is all unrelated pictures of lasers and of old appliances with no relation to the text. Seriously it is enough to put "quantum-resistant" and "blockchain" together and you pull out your wallets?
Wake up guys.

Back to you regarding the white- and yellow paper, have you actually read it? It is clearly stated that there is already a working quantum key generator that provides the necessary random numbers for key generation. They also provide numbers to back up their claims.
If you've ever set foot inside a quantum optics lab you'd know they are just what the pictures show, a maze of lenses and prisms.
This project shows great promise imo, the threat of quantum cracking is real and I can promise you that much that the governments are not going to share their quantum secure encryption with the people. This project is very much needed,

I have read the paper, and it (badly) describes a quantum random number generator. I happen to have an almost exact same setup in my own lab (can show pics if you want), and it has nothing to do with protecting against quantum computers and Shor's algorithm. Check my twitter thread for more details: https://twitter.com/Jogenfors/status/956627886496272384
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Guys, why are you even contemplating investment? The tech does not work. In fact there is no tech. Read the whitepaper & the yellowpaper. Not a hint of a real technical implementation.
It is all unrelated pictures of lasers and of old appliances with no relation to the text. Seriously it is enough to put "quantum-resistant" and "blockchain" together and you pull out your wallets?
Wake up guys.

Back to you regarding the white- and yellow paper, have you actually read it? It is clearly stated that there is already a working quantum key generator that provides the necessary random numbers for key generation. They also provide numbers to back up their claims.
If you've ever set foot inside a quantum optics lab you'd know they are just what the pictures show, a maze of lenses and prisms.
This project shows great promise imo, the threat of quantum cracking is real and I can promise you that much that the governments are not going to share their quantum secure encryption with the people. This project is very much needed,
full member
Activity: 448
Merit: 100
ICO will start 7 more days and Pre-Sale from January 26, it falls on this day
then is there a reward if I succeed in persuading people to buy a quantum token

We do not have any referral program. But we are grateful to anyone that helps spreading the word and spreading awareness of the coming quantum era!
It could be good have a referral program
I would have liked to participate in a referral program if there were one
sr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 251
Guys, why are you even contemplating investment? The tech does not work. In fact there is no tech. Read the whitepaper & the yellowpaper. Not a hint of a real technical implementation.
It is all unrelated pictures of lasers and of old appliances with no relation to the text. Seriously it is enough to put "quantum-resistant" and "blockchain" together and you pull out your wallets?
Wake up guys.
full member
Activity: 448
Merit: 100
ICO will start 7 more days and Pre-Sale from January 26, it falls on this day
then is there a reward if I succeed in persuading people to buy a quantum token

We do not have any referral program. But we are grateful to anyone that helps spreading the word and spreading awareness of the coming quantum era!
It could be good have a referral program
member
Activity: 392
Merit: 10
Do we have to register for crowdsale?
I want to know it too
member
Activity: 308
Merit: 10
what is the value of the silver token?

1 ETH = 1000 Q1S
And golden token? Do you know what will be its price?

The price on the gold tokens will be based on the silver token price - So the market decides the value!
Ah ok and when will we know the market price of silver tokens? After first sale?
it is a good question, i want to know the answer too

The set price for the Silver tokens is 1000 Silver / 1 ETH . So once the ICO is over, it is up to the market to decide what the price will be!

One possible scenario is: Early investor buys Silver Token with +20% bonus, silver token increases in value after first ICO. The early investor also gets +20% bonus on the gold token when converting Silver to Gold. Price on gold will be based on the price on the Silver when the conversion happens. Hence, early investors will get rewarded with this setup!
Thanks for the answer! I hope that tokens will stabilise in market well after ICO.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 1
Alright, the quantum1net team has not responded to my comments here or via e-mail. Therefore I will now publicly call them out on their [REDACTED]. The technology described in their papers is useless, and does not solve the problem they say it solves.

I am currently starting a thread on this on twitter: https://twitter.com/Jogenfors/status/956627886496272384 and will keep adding info there.

If you are thinking about buying into quantum1net, think again. I have read the papers and they are only intended to look cool for the non-technical reader. All fancy equations about quantum mechanics and entanglement is just smoke and mirrors.

But why should you listen to me and not the quantum1net team? Well, I happen to have a PhD in quantum technology and my thesis discussed how to combine the blockchain with quantum mechanics. In my research I break quantum cryptography algorithms for a living.

//Jonathan Jogenfors

(Message partially redacted on Jan 30th)
member
Activity: 308
Merit: 10
Do we have to register for crowdsale?
member
Activity: 322
Merit: 10
what is the value of the silver token?

1 ETH = 1000 Q1S
And golden token? Do you know what will be its price?

The price on the gold tokens will be based on the silver token price - So the market decides the value!
Ah ok and when will we know the market price of silver tokens? After first sale?
it is a good question, i want to know the answer too

The set price for the Silver tokens is 1000 Silver / 1 ETH . So once the ICO is over, it is up to the market to decide what the price will be!

One possible scenario is: Early investor buys Silver Token with +20% bonus, silver token increases in value after first ICO. The early investor also gets +20% bonus on the gold token when converting Silver to Gold. Price on gold will be based on the price on the Silver when the conversion happens. Hence, early investors will get rewarded with this setup!
Will be silver token in market or only golden token?
member
Activity: 140
Merit: 12
ICO will start 7 more days and Pre-Sale from January 26, it falls on this day
then is there a reward if I succeed in persuading people to buy a quantum token

We do not have any referral program. But we are grateful to anyone that helps spreading the word and spreading awareness of the coming quantum era!
member
Activity: 140
Merit: 12
what is the value of the silver token?

1 ETH = 1000 Q1S
And golden token? Do you know what will be its price?

The price on the gold tokens will be based on the silver token price - So the market decides the value!
Ah ok and when will we know the market price of silver tokens? After first sale?
it is a good question, i want to know the answer too

The set price for the Silver tokens is 1000 Silver / 1 ETH . So once the ICO is over, it is up to the market to decide what the price will be!

One possible scenario is: Early investor buys Silver Token with +20% bonus, silver token increases in value after first ICO. The early investor also gets +20% bonus on the gold token when converting Silver to Gold. Price on gold will be based on the price on the Silver when the conversion happens. Hence, early investors will get rewarded with this setup!
full member
Activity: 842
Merit: 100
ICO will start 7 more days and Pre-Sale from January 26, it falls on this day
then is there a reward if I succeed in persuading people to buy a quantum token
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