Topic: [ANN] Revamped PinkCoin (PC / PINK) PoS | Multipool | Fundraiser | Anonymous - page 10. (Read 207034 times)

Interest... eyes wait... will mine 

The gambling coin position has a new proponent: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annbrk-breakout-coin-sale-june-13-2016-multicurrencies-smart-contracts-808648

Hopefully our devs will endorse it also officially.

Big props to all the Pinkcoin Devs, after reading everything I can only say Thank you for continuing to develop new features for the community!  Whether or not it is appreciated by others or not I think the majority really appreciate everything you guys do!

Just a quick note on Developers "profiting" on leasing technology, Just a quick reminder that not only are they donating their time, effort and skills into developing new projects but domains, hosting and servers all cost money to keep maintained.  Please don't expect the devs to pay for EVERYTHING both with time and money, as I highly doubt their is much Net profit after all the expenses!

New blogpost posted!

http://allaltnews.blogspot.com/2014/10/pinkcoin-pure-pos-coin-with-breast.html

Enjoy!

A Brief History of Pinkcoin, Some Facts, and Some Details of her Features

Pinkcoin has been widely recognized as a proud supporter of the National Breast Cancer Foundation to which the $Pink citizenry has donated more towards the advancement in research of a cure than any other altcoin combined.

Pinkcoin has been represented by professional poker players at several prestigious poker events, including the World Series of Poker. Most stunning is that $0 dollars were asked from the Pinkcoin Citizenry by the Development Team to aid in the purchasing of a $10,000 entrance fee for this widely broadcast event. Crypto Cayce, Pinkcoin’s 2014 WSOP representative, paid the entrance fee personally and additionally selflessly pledged to raise Pinkcoin’s Market Cap by purchasing Pinkcoin at market value with 30% of his winnings; an amount then that could have potentially been in the millions of dollars.  

Pinkcoin has a Lottery bot, with multiple lottery games, that has seen continuous use by the $Pink Citizenry in their participation of a massive donating regimen on Twitter spreading the $Pink gospel far and wide. Not only can $Pink Citizens exchange dogecoin, blackcoin, litecoin, and bitcoin for Pinkcoin, they have the option to exchange those coins via Twitter, a social media website that supports over 271 million monthly active users.

Online gambling has a market Value that is dominate over even Bitcoin, and is still rapidly growing towards a 30 billion dollar global value. Pinkcoin has an online poker site, $Pink Poker, that is operational 24/7 sporting a growing and loyal fan-base of over a hundred active users on Fridays and Weekends where hundreds of thousands of Pinkcoins have been won by flocks of new investors. Unlike faucets which are not fun in the least, playing $Pink Poker to win free Pinkcoin is ingenious and incrementally building up a loyal following of fanatic $Pink Poker gladiators; where weekly competition is happily participated in.

Since the relaunch over 10,000,000 Pinkcoins have been awarded back to the Pinkcoin Citizenry by $Pink’s developers in various $Pink contests and $Pink Poker Freeroll events.

Pinkcoin’s strenghth is built off long term investing Citizens who have continuously been involved in bringing awareness to $Pink from all walks of life, not cut and dry short term investors expecting to receive the benefits freely of others participation and talent. Thanks to the successful marketing of an active long term citizenry, Pinkcoin has been noticed by many thousands of people, including Casheer App which now features Pinkcoin, the SyncCoin foundation which now gives holders of over 2 million Pinkcoin access to Sync foundation Benefits, The David Seaman Show which has featured Pinkcoin on multiple occasions and whose host has made a personal investment in $Pink, AltMarketDotCom which will feature Pinkcoin on their upcoming brand new exchange made by crypto traders, and Mintpal V2, a highly selective new coming exchange which will also feature $Pink among few other coins.

Pinkcoin is rare among altcoins in that $Pink does not depend entirely on developers to achieve goals. Every citizen plays a part in the success and failures in the development of Pinkcoin, including developing independent marketing campaigns, writing $Pink articles on Reddit, independently developing technology, actively organizing twitter campaigns to get $Pink added to new exchanges, actively utilizing the Lotto/Tip Bot in making donations to spread the $Pink gospel, independently organizing special events like, YouTube contests, Pink Floyd Friday etc. In short, Pinkcoin has become a gateway for countless newcomers to Crypto Currency in general, successfully tapping into the 75% of the world's population that has not even heard of bitcoin.

The Pinkcoin Citizenry looks out for one another. When one prominently active member of the $Pink Citizenry had his PC hacked by spy-ware and key-loggers the $Pink Citizenry within 48hrs restored over 1 million Pinkcoins into his new secured wallet.

Because Pinkcoin has a vibrantly active Citizenry, when a developer leaves the team there is always other citizens available and willing to take their place, in which $Pink has already demonstrated her ability fluently by successfully replacing with no infighting a former community leader who had been the original developer, and who had dumped 4 million pre-mined coins to scam the prior community. Since the transition from Bigman to CryptoCayce Pinkcoin has gone over ten fold in value in just over 4 months and additionally, Pinkcoin is now one of the few altcoins to be accepted on the housing market.

                                                                                                         Eternal Blessings,
                                                                                                         Spock Skywalker@Waterisaliv1111

/slow clap

"you don't know, what you don't know."

It is sad indeed.

Your euphemisms. I have known Tranzium for a while now and he is probably quite capable on the techie side... he only insists -quite legitimately- in being paid for his work... not exactly the short of thing voluntary developers are known for... until now.

But on with the euphemisms on your "roadmap": Wallet.- yes IO take you are working full time on getting a fresh face where you can know instantly what your poker balance is and such. Maybe a lot of people will find this useful, what do I know? Initially the PINK wallet was created for two purposes only: Staking and paying/being paid. Apparently it isn't enough. Lets the gimmicks continue.

"Exchange pink". As in "Exchange" period. No advantages whatsoever over any other form of exchange of the dozens already available, most effectively and notably over bthe NEXT protocol, way more advanced, efficient and with more reach than PINK will ever get to. But hey, it's a way to get busy "working hard" for PINK, I guess...

"Pay with Pink". This is just funny. You can pay with pink, black, white and a number of other colors. Now. You don't have to implement anything. You just convert nto either BTC or Fiat, which you can do in a number of exchanges or through other intermediaries. NOW. Pay with pink will use one or more of those intermediaries -who will draw fees, of course, for every transaction-, so,m really, there's nothing at all "created". Just smoke and mirrors.

Meanwhile, PINK itself will not go anywhere. It won't be promoted in any way, shape or form; people will continue being oblivious to its existence and, much less, to any inclination to be "the good guys" coin and will only be known, as it is already, as "the gambling coin" -which aint that bad, regardless how far away from it's initial purpose it is-. The transparent wallets will continue in the box, the beautiful tees will remain a memory and the charity... well. It's October. I believe it's some kinds of Cancer of Mama month which PINK -the initial one- would have done every effort to be associated with.

Then again, we were different then. And young.

Now we sell software, we gamble in poker and lottery and we promote friends' competing coins. Different perspective.

Oh and we are "honest" and quite generous... in euphemisms.

Enough is enough guys.

This is so saddening.

At the end of the day, no matter what the tech is, it gives a "use case" to Pinkcoin. Tranzium and I have worked very hard to create the anon, the lottery, the poker. These are all tools that could easily be distributed to every single coin out there, including Bitcoin. We ourselves have made little to nothing doing this, and COULD make a shit ton by opening it up to all of crypto, but we have not, and we won't.

At the end of the day, there is only one thing that's relevant RIGHT NOW, we all know what Tranzium and myself are working on...


...So please, tell me what you are doing for Pinkcoin to help it?

If you are not adding something constructive and positive to the above Roadmap for Pinkcoin, than I suggest redirecting all communication to discussing options and services that could be added.

You're right... definitively could have used my time better after figuring out what song the broken record was playing. See you at the next shift in focus 

1.- Yes, CAUGHT. Were it not for the "Boxxa affair" the whole selling/auctioning of Pink's software/features would have been kept under the radar even in spite of the quite telling promo in the OP. The community was never either consulted nor told that it's platform was going to be used as a sales pointy. CAUGHT. FACT, not opinion.

2.- You are, in fact, quite mistaken. As a matter of fact at the time of posting in THE WALL OF HONOR, you were the only dev who was identified. There was  no connection then with either poker, or lottery and, obviously, no sale/auction of tech was taking place... which reminds me, since such drastic shifts in path and objectives has taken place, that Wall of Honor post needs to be revisited.

3.- Again you are (knowingly) mistaken: I did not "ask for money", I made a professional proposal, which is quite different. A professional proposal in which payment was required in exchange for services. Since all the details of the proposal are right here and quite accessible to anyone, I will let people interested check it for themselves and determine the extent of your lie.

4.- Pink is not a job. For a job you are hired (just as I would have been should my proposal had been accepted before it was withdrawn, which was almost immediately upon recognition that Danny just did not get it) and required to meet timetables, thresholds, etc. This is completely voluntary and with no pay or monetary compensation whatsoever in no form whatsoever since you can dedicate as much or as little time to it as you choose. There's only hypocrisy on YOUR part for you know very well the difference between a voluntary collaboration and a professional commitment.

5.- the problem here doesn't "seem", IS, that you are using the platform of PINK to sell software which, in effect, makes PINK of no value whatsoever technically since its features can and are bought but any other coin that so pleases. Coming back to the analogy with coca and pepsi, it is akin to selling the coca-cola formula to any beverage company interested in it... with the money going to dealers in the transaction, NOT the stakeholders of the company. Get it now or want to keep on pretending you dont?

6.- As stated above you CHOOSE, at any given time, to be as committed as you choose, from fully to not at all, without any control or otherwise say by any of the stakeholders of PINK.

7.- That is a "new rule" you just invented and doesn't figure anywhere in the declaration of intentions of the dev team when this was announced. The call, as you put it, should be made by the stakeholders of PINK, not by the devs themselves that, again, are using the platform for their own personal gain and not the benefit of the project. As a matter of fact, "boxxa's" exit -and subsequent charge of extortion attempt-, clearly illustrates that the brotherhood of the devs of PINK has total and final say on what's done and that anyone straying from that particular protocol, is shown the door. Mafia style, to be quite frank... which at least is consistent with the new direction of PINK as the gambling coin.

8.- Coins die and live for all kinds of reasons. The innovation in the revamped pink was in it's good guys approach -quite a novelty then-, not in it's technology/features, not in it's gambling activities, not in it's connection to Danny and poker. It was the committed charity coin. No shady deals. No anonimity. Total transparency and a commitment to certain values such as honesty and generosity. It was quite innovative, in fact. And fully deserving of WALL OF HONOR inclusion. Of course we can only speculate at this point, and in the future, where would PINK have gone if it would have stayed on that initial course instead of straying into becoming "the gambling coin", "the coin that sells/auctions its features for the profit of their developers" and "the coin that uses their official thread to promote the projects of their developers' friends".

9.- There are many potential ways to increase the price in a digital coin... all of them tried already, so there's no innovation left in that field. But sex sells, traditionally, quite well. In everything, crypto included. So why not giving it a try and branch out into porn and prostitution? we are already halfway there anyway... illegal drugs could be another possibility, what do you think? I'm quite sure if you were invested in the coin, you would love it and so would many if not most of those invested in it. Just bumping a couple of ideas since, of course, you would want to see the increase in price... and, of course, you would still maintain that no shit in focus or direction would be taking place.

As I told you before Sony, this is quite an exercise in wasting time for we are in different galaxies you and me when it comes to this subject and we could continue for another 20 pages sticking to our respective pretenses with more or less twists of the truth, attempts at manipulation or mistaken assumptions. Everyone that is possibly interested though, has already enough material to make up their own minds and that and only that should be the purpose of these dissertations.

Personally, after an update in The Wall of Honor, I have wasted enough time already.

Caught? Now that's an interesting perspective? Caught what... leasing our own software? I suppose Gmail too was "caught" selling extra storage space to its users, eh? You also keep stating that this whole "shifted focus and direction" as FACTS. I am beginning to suspect if you actually know what you are talking about. What is a FACT is that we have our services and products available for lease. Saying the project has shifted its focus and direction as "facts" is like someone saying Windows XP is the best software out there. What is a "fact" is that it sold a shitload of copies. Please get your "facts" straight... especially if you are attempting to "educate" people about the "obvious".





If I'n not mistaken, your little "Wall of Honor" page with all the praises for pinkcoin was AFTER the fully functional anon was implemented on the website. No mention of any slip into shady category or fall from grace and what not. Guess its all vaguely subjective depends on the mood? Or is it the other way round.... introduce poker and anon is suddenly a shift from the "good guys"? Well shit.... lets atleast have some consistency man.







One of the advantages of transparency is a gain in trust and reputation. So what if we leverage that for payment/services. Few months back you were here asking for money to leverage your experience, network and "marketing skills" for pinkcoin right? Why the hypocrisy now?






If my understanding is correct, survival requires money. Not sure how you can just discard that little info.... unless we're talking about living in the wild, hunting game and no internet or electricity.... which im pretty sure is not very crypto friendly to begin with.






Sure... and we chose to be fully commited to it instead of a half hearted attempt. Investors enjoyed that experience. Those who did not, moved on. What seems to be the problem here?






"supposed to"? Where on earth are you digging up these assumptions from? Are you saying that all dev work for all coins has to be a strictly non-profit hobby activity? That to make money off the work you do is taboo? That any technology developed for Pink must stay exclusive to pink? Sorry to break it to you, but the people who put in the work to get it done takes a call on that, not you.






So essentially it was all good till we picked it up you mean? The investors would just come in, get all wet with the "good guys" image and go ham with buy orders? I guess marketing too would happen to the tune of "Come buy pink... doesnt really have any features, but its run by good honest guys,", etc? Now I'm not going to bother giving you a list of coins that had a great image and good devs, whose coins simply died from ignorance.






So? Of course if I was investing in a coin, I would want to see it increase in price. The future of Pink is not in seeing it devalued. You seem to be insisting on maintaining this false dichotomy of making money as a counter weight to the developer's focus. I fail to see the connection. In fact, its quite contrary really.





Like I have also stated earlier, they are not facts. They are opinions.

@ annoyxxy,
 when I talk to children I sugar-coat a bit. Here I speak to (theoretically) adults.

@Wheezy,
What you consider "every right" is by no stretch of imagination what others -and me-, do. And not "for the most part" or ANY part have they been open about it. Caught is more like it. Besides that I have never stated that I oppose or dont like what they are doing or have done... I have simply stated an obvious FACT: the project has shifted its focus and direction. Significantly.

@ sony,
Yes, getting anon was a definite shift from the "good guys" path and into shaddy territory, no question about it. Just like there's no question that gambling, in whatever form, is also going in a different direction.

As for promoting friends' coins, OFFICIALLY, I have never seen it before. And it has nothing to do with marking territory, pissing or otherwise, but with a very elemental common sense... just like you wouldnt expect coca cola recommending pepsi. More so since their markets are unlimited and alt coins one is just the opposite.

Selling software for personal profit is a way to make money not a means of survival. The project, frankly, had excess of technology NOT lack of it. Nobody watches -or much care- what the tech devs do, how many hours they devote to the project, etc. They are as bound and committed as they choose to be at any and all times. They are not supposed to draw income from pink, ok? Pink has enough -and then some- and needed none. Not anon. Not gambling. It needed -and continue needing- investors. And a clean GOOD GUYS image. An image and a reality that would have put pink at the front of the line when regulation hits -which WILL happen at any time now-, and not in jeopardy because of it. And yes the (vocal part of) the community wanted those features like anon and gambling just like they would clamor for anything they perceive as a potential trigger to increase the price, for what they want is to lock in profits not the future of pink... which should be the main focus of its developers.

Like I have repeated several times already not judging or even criticising, just stating facts.

Every coin has a troll.

Personal Agenda? Evidence? What evidence? You have stats on the approval/disapproval ratio of  pink before/after the addition of poker? I sure dont. But from what I can gather from the excitement of community members at the announcement of having poker and the subsequent days prior to releasing, I can make an educated guess that it was a welcome addition.






So by that reasoning, the addition of anonymous transfer was a "shift in focus" to shady dealings with pink? I can understand that the substitution of porno for poker can cause a chunk of investors to not want to be associated with pink. Yes, you can justly say that pink shifted focus there if it got involved with porno. No so with poker. Show me the data that you gathered to make that claim. Did you conduct a survey? What are you basing this on? Intuition or something?






I have no idea what you are saying here.... sounds like a complete word salad. What is it that you are asking? Why we are leasing out our tech? What do you mean "thats your business not implementing it yourself"?






I don't see the "obviousness" here. What is the rationale? Why is the survival/sustenance of Pink not a primary objective? You come to that conclusion based on what? When did promoting a friend's coin become an issue? Twitter is full of developers promoting other coins. No one is pissing and marking territories here.... definitely not Pink.

I second that. You twist everything around so much that even the good points you have make no sense coming from you.

Anyways, I believe the Devs have every right to lease or even sell any tech developments they create. This is not a company stock and we are not paying them. They have to support themselves somehow, and they own what they create. If leasing their tech supports them, not only does it increase outside awareness if how great pinkcoin is and our Devs are, but it means that they can keep moving forward with new developments. They have for the most part been very open about it, and say they use part of the proceeds to further support pink coin. It would be nice to know how much and where the funds are going, but not something to get upset over.

If you dislike the direction they are taking Pinkcoin, either do something about it or voice your opinion and move on. If people agree with you, then as a group we can make something happen, but if all your going to do is try and lay blame and wish things were different, then don't bother posting. Almost none of your posts have been constructive, brought new ideas or offered any help or support.

Again barabass,you mention some stuff which I do understand even though I dont agree With your thoughts. People get mad about how you are writing, as I mentioned earlier in a post that it is the way you are writing which makes people get upset. Please once again consider to write your posts in a way so the readers doesnt get upset.

Regards Anoxy

It is in front of you and stated -along with proper evidence- in the previous posts. But you simply refuse to see it because it doesnt serve your personal agenda so, yes, waste of time.

Just this once I would indulge you with a -real and appropriate- analogy: in your concept substitute "poker" with "porno". Do you see a shift in direction now? Hey it can even be a good promotional tool -which poker hss proven NOT to be at all- and probably profitable business, that's not being contested. Is it a shit in focus though?

One more for the road: If you lease or otherwise sell tech innovation, thats your business not implementing it yourself... unless you have different divisions working on different products which obviously is not the case. Or is it? Because if we are in the businesses of selling tech and promoting friends' coins obviously the survival of the Pink project is not the only objectivr and, eventually perhaps not even the main one.

I believe there were more than one unicorn here actually. And several smoke courtains too.

LOL.... but of course... its always a "waste of time" when you need to actually think of proper answers. I'm still trying to find that elusive "intelligent debate attempt" that you mentioned. Damn unicorn was just here I tell you!

No sony, there's no point in arguing with you about this or anything else really. Your chosen misconceptions are as outrageously off mark as your analogy regarding the smartphone companies, therefore any intelligent debate attempt -or statement of facts- would be a complete waste of time. The conflicting points -with the original vision- have been properly posted and people has all the information to decide if they want to support the shifted direction of the project or not. Which is the ONLY point.

Rest is inane and bad intentioned personal stuff of no interest to anyone.

What is this "focus" and "direction" you keep talking about? Shifted from what? You have contributed nothing so far and keep throwing these vague accusations around. Except for an outrageous botched attempt at crowdfunding 30 million PINK and a few thousands USD here, for a "World Pink Day" party in Japan, Im not really sure what you have done to contribute to this "direction" that we have "shifted" from.

Now I understand that this is probably the n'th time you are stating or insinuating that its no point to argue here, time to re-evaluate, etc. But time and again you pop up here with your excess baggage of sickly unresolved trauma. Don't you realize no one cares if you invested in pink or not? You clearly do not posses any of the positive values shared by this community. Your "warnings" (or observations, if you prefer that term) serve no purpose, because you have conveniently ignored to declare your intention. I'm still left wondering what your intention is?

You seem to be under the impression that the addition of poker led to the subtraction of something else. Care to elaborate without bringing up non rebuttable diplomatic PR terms like "focus" and "direction" please? So what if technology we make is leased out to other coins? The wider adoption is a testament to our quality. Your iPhone's processor is made by Samsung, Audio clarity thanks to Texas Instruments, and memory from Micron. I understand the impulsive counter intuitive nature of it all, but facts speak for themselves. All these companies seems to be doing quite well in working with each other, than if/when they were doing everything on their own.

If you have a suggestion, swing it by us. A constructive criticism? Throw it in here! Happy to bounce it off the smart people here with varied skills and approaches. That's what forums are best at. But please make it concrete... not "lets focus on x" or "lets move in that direction" etc. We have the skills to implements any good ideas you or the community brings forward, so long as we do not get bankrupt in the process. And that is not a statement of weakness. It is a reality that everyone acknowledges. It also means there will be active development by the devs till we cannot afford to feed ourselves or pay the bills. Self sustenance is a necessary part of any cycle to continue, and for the coin to not be self sustainable is not negotiable.