Whether there will be reviews written or not, dependent on pricing (and bearing in mind the much vaunted S7 is on the horizon too), I'm still in for an EU group buy should one go ahead.
sfards "should be" a different kind of beast to bitmain, so though I do not expect to get the rig free, I have high hopes that they'll not price exhorbitantly, but I also know that being a dual mode miner, they are in a position (and rightly so) to charge a bit of a premium for that. Here's to crossing my fingers ....
Topic: [ANN] Sfards:SF100, the first 28nm Dual-Mode Miner is accepting pre-order now - page 47. (Read 129811 times)
June 24, 2015, 05:13:40 AM
June 24, 2015, 05:03:47 AM
i think they will try to get quite high prices, the market is dry in term's if buyable Miner. They will try to use that Situation in their favor as much as possible. $$$
June 24, 2015, 04:51:47 AM
Nice to finally get an update. Disappointed to see MOQ is 100 units and no price or release date set. If they were to give some definitive details on price and send someone an evaluation unit, I am sure someone would be willing to set up a group buy that would easily hit the MOQ. As it stands now, guess I'll have to wait til they begin selling them in smaller quantities or pick one up from a reseller.
June 24, 2015, 03:24:11 AM
Just heard back from SFards. Doesn't look like they are doing any demo or evaluation units at this time, unfortunately. They are doing MOQ 100 for the initial sales run due to limited quantity, and have not yet established shipping date or price.
I got the same answer to my email.
So I will pass on this. Good luck to those that buy it.
June 24, 2015, 02:40:56 AM
only Fools Rush In. i'd wait out especially early batches & there could be other options too.
No demo + No review + No price + No delivery date + No individual/smaller scale sales + No PSU + No further info = No confidence + No Buy + No ROI
Not trying to be mean or an A*S. My apologies to SFARDS (if you were offended) but it's just the truth & how i feel atm.
No demo + No review + No price + No delivery date + No individual/smaller scale sales + No PSU + No further info = No confidence + No Buy + No ROI
Not trying to be mean or an A*S. My apologies to SFARDS (if you were offended) but it's just the truth & how i feel atm.
June 24, 2015, 02:06:13 AM
Just heard back from SFards. Doesn't look like they are doing any demo or evaluation units at this time, unfortunately. They are doing MOQ 100 for the initial sales run due to limited quantity, and have not yet established shipping date or price.
June 24, 2015, 01:40:48 AM
My fairly cynical view is that they'll try and charge what they think they can get. I don't expect that customer ROI or time frames will matter one bit. At the present time, they have only Bitmain as competition with the S5. Yes they have to worry a bit about the long fabled, completely unspecified and unpriced S7, but that's it. It's easy to adjust a price downwards later if needed. Unless and until Bitmain has a definite product with a delivery date, specifications, and a price, they can just wait. We are also assuming that they are free to produce at whatever rate they want. They may well have bought the number of chips for N miners, and then they would have to wait for another slot at TSMC (or whoever) for more, or pay more to get them "rushed".
I don't mean to be a Negative Nancy, but assuming SFARDS is in the business to make money, I'll bet their CFO thinks more like I do, than what folks might think of in terms of BTC price, difficulty and ROi.
Just my BTC.02.
I don't mean to be a Negative Nancy, but assuming SFARDS is in the business to make money, I'll bet their CFO thinks more like I do, than what folks might think of in terms of BTC price, difficulty and ROi.
Just my BTC.02.
June 24, 2015, 12:37:37 AM
Point is why the attacks? I am not the only one that does reviews.
Factz you da only 1 beg much. Wait on emailz mans... you keepz going.
Seez Dogie or OG beg over and over. Noz
What are you, a gangster rapper? Gonna "get all up in his grillz, dawg"? Keepin' it real, G?
Anyway, it would be good to see Sfards do the same thing that SPTech did with the SP20, sending out review samples(and having them come back mostly positive) really helped their sales, I think. It definitely swayed my purchase decision since I knew that multiple people on the forum whose opinions I trusted gave them their stamp of approval. Hell, I'd review one but I'm not a Legendary, or even a Hero.
June 24, 2015, 12:31:45 AM
Well if it makes $8/day now most likely it will be $8 X 60 or 90 days which has been the norm for the last few products.
It will cost between $480 - $720, so likely somewhere in between.
I'd expect more.It will cost between $480 - $720, so likely somewhere in between.
I'm predicting double S5 price
Sounds about right, if not a bit more. Shipping will be different between the two as the S5 weighs 3.4kg boxed, and this looks about the same (if not more) than a Rockminer T1 which was about 13kg. 
June 24, 2015, 12:25:10 AM
But I have no need to review one others can do good reviews.
OgNasty doe review and gb. Simples.
Dogie do no two review.
no knock on OgNasty or dogie , but I would like to see sfards words not a newbie's
And like I said I don't need to review this, I offered to review it. In fact I would offer to review it and mail it back to sfards rep here in the USA.
Which means zero financial gain on my part and I would lose the postage mailing it back to sfards rep in the usa.
That makes me about as neutral as you will get in the world of BTC-LTC.
And I made this offer months ago. Go back and find the post. And I was attacked and insulted back then by a newbie. Which prompted me to withdraw the offer.
I find it interesting that as soon as I mention reviewing this gear newbies turn up to attack me.
Why?
Philip,
It's quite obvious it's not a "newbie." The odds of a "newbie" knowing to look for this forum and even finding this forum is not very good. A "newbie" is too new to "know" you and your contribution to bitcointalk.org. You've helped me and others many times. You know your shizit!!! I'll give you that...
Don't worry about the troll. I personally believe it is someone who is not a newbie who only seeks to frustrate you and "try" to discredit you. Those, like myself, who have been around a little longer than this so called "newbie" know better. So, don't worry about what the "newbie" says, Philip. Those of us who have been around a little while know it's not a newbie.
As far as I'm concerned this so called "newbie" is a jealous prick!
Don't let this so called "newbie" manipulate you into withdrawing a damn thing. Happy mining, Sir, and keep up the great work. You're a damn good contributor to this forum.
June 23, 2015, 11:50:09 PM
Point is why the attacks? I am not the only one that does reviews.
Factz you da only 1 beg much. Wait on emailz mans... you keepz going.
Seez Dogie or OG beg over and over. Noz
June 23, 2015, 11:42:06 PM
I find it interesting that as soon as I mention reviewing this gear newbies turn up to attack me.
Why?
dogie alt accounts attacking you, simple! You should have learnt by now that if you try and do anything dogie does better than him on this forum, then you get that type of treatment. (just my 2 cents).
By the way, I am not sure sfards are looking to get review units out, whether there is a case for having them or not, seeing the do not intend to sell to small time miners to start with, aka word will get out in good time.
June 23, 2015, 11:41:37 PM
But I have no need to review one others can do good reviews.
OgNasty doe review and gb. Simples.
Dogie do no two review.
no knock on OgNasty or dogie , but I would like to see sfards words not a newbie's
And like I said I don't need to review this, I offered to review it. In fact I would offer to review it and mail it back to sfards rep here in the USA.
Which means zero financial gain on my part and I would lose the postage mailing it back to sfards rep in the usa.
That makes me about as neutral as you will get in the world of BTC-LTC.
And I made this offer months ago. Go back and find the post. And I was attacked and insulted back then by a newbie. Which prompted me to withdraw the offer.
I find it interesting that as soon as I mention reviewing this gear newbies turn up to attack me.
Why?
Simples you beg and beg. If wes need help with rental wes ask you.... Now you offer to mail back.... so you does not want to pays for unit?
Og and Dogie both no beg. You needy.
June 23, 2015, 11:30:56 PM
But I have no need to review one others can do good reviews.
OgNasty doe review and gb. Simples.
Dogie do no two review.
no knock on OgNasty or dogie , but I would like to see sfards words not a newbie's
And like I said I don't need to review this, I offered to review it. In fact I would offer to review it and mail it back to sfards rep here in the USA.
Which means zero financial gain on my part and I would lose the postage mailing it back to sfards rep in the usa.
That makes me about as neutral as you will get in the world of BTC-LTC.
And I made this offer months ago. Go back and find the post. And I was attacked and insulted back then by a newbie. Which prompted me to withdraw the offer.
I find it interesting that as soon as I mention reviewing this gear newbies turn up to attack me.
Why?
the offer:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10849883
me withdrawing the offer:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10850037
first attack:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10850069
second attack
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10854633
third attack
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10860196
lastly my second withdraw of the offer of a review.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10866228
Point is why the attacks? I am not the only one that does reviews.
June 23, 2015, 11:14:18 PM
But I have no need to review one others can do good reviews.
OgNasty doe review and gb. Simples.
Dogie do no two review.
We have expressed that no one cares about your opinion and sfards will choose who they want to anyway. your not needed here. If your goal is to level the account up with posts and sell it I suggest you stop as I will leave neg trust for being annoying and not furthering the conversation if you post nonsense again.
June 23, 2015, 11:08:14 PM
But I have no need to review one others can do good reviews.
OgNasty doe review and gb. Simples.
Dogie do no two review.
June 23, 2015, 10:40:51 PM
This would be the very best! OgNasty definitely has the skill and reputation to run a group buy, Sfards needs to give their blessing ASAP!
I would def. be interested in a Group Buy especially if OgNasty is doing it-- count me in for 10+ depending on price....
Thanks for the votes of confidence. Hopefully we hear more info from Sfards soon.
June 23, 2015, 10:31:00 PM
I have no idea but it is an embarrassment to the rest of us that a "noob" account is messing with a Legendary Member that does as much for BCT as anyone here--
Does get tiring. It also really turns me off quite a bit from sfards.
Of course is this a clever puppet from another company trying to turn all of us off sfards?
I would like to hear from sfards and not puppets. After all the garbage done by so many sellers of so many miner units/models
a few units for review would go a long way to selling the gear.
But I have no need to review one others can do good reviews.
June 23, 2015, 10:29:49 PM
I have no idea but it is an embarrassment to the rest of us that a "noob" account is messing with a Legendary Member that does as much for BCT as anyone here--
Ignore button works fine--although I'll give the kid the benefit of the doubt and assume ESL. June 23, 2015, 10:27:07 PM
I have no idea but it is an embarrassment to the rest of us that a "noob" account is messing with a Legendary Member that does as much for BCT as anyone here--
Looking at post history, looks like someone posting to get post count up, probably to sell the account-- I am not sure if posting about Cognac and Cotton Candy has any other value on BCT
Looking at post history, looks like someone posting to get post count up, probably to sell the account-- I am not sure if posting about Cognac and Cotton Candy has any other value on BCT
Jump to: