Topic: [ANN] Sfards:SF100, the first 28nm Dual-Mode Miner is accepting pre-order now - page 70. (Read 129811 times)

Sfards: Hey, guys. I've seen and read your concerns. Sadly, I'm not able to say FUCK YOU in more than one language, hence not replying earlier. Hope you all understand. VIVA BITCOIN!

Bitmain does the same thing with announcing a product and then nothing solid for weeks.  But SFards nothing not even a chime in on the forum.

I would like to see updates personally.  But the thing that makes me thing they are not to bad is I have not seen pre-orders.  A lot of companies announce and then want pre-orders and never do make a product.

So best communication no.... but also not scamming us so not to bad of hardware company at this point.

They've still done nothing wrong.

Granted, they could have gone about things a better way but their minds may be focused on what happens when they get their prototypes in a few weeks. This just shows how much people will read into things, I couldn't give a rat's arse if they put up pictures of miming rigs, tulips or hyenas, as long as they give technological information that stands up.

So come on guys, what about some provisional data and stop this thread getting any longer?

Just to clarify, when I say 'stock photography' I don't necessarily mean photography appropriately licensed from any one of the dozens of stock media sites.  While that's the legal and ethical route, there's certainly plenty of google image searching for what one's looking for and grabbing that if it's seemingly plastered all over.

e.g. the datacenter image is found at networksolutionexperts.com as you point out.  That's not the source, though - if you overlay the two (scale the sfards one up a bit) you'll find that the sfards one has more of the picture in the bottom that's cropped out from the one at networksolutionexperts.com.  The same image (various crops/sizes/manipulations thereof) is also easily found at dancoelectrical.com, transientpowersolutions.com, virtuallymikebrown.com, poweranddata.info, idce.com.cn, conduitnw.org, indiamart.com, comparex.be, ictassetrecovery.com, cccassoc.org, nocser.net, cabenolan.com, technologymovers.net, veridata.com.ph, security.engin.umich.edu, community.spiceworks.com, theregister.co.uk, collage.co.za, igts.in, fmknet.com, facebook.com/ACCL.Ltd, thesundaytimes.co.uk, blog.zoha-islands.com... and that's just pages 1-5 on google.  Speaking of which, the original source appears to be said Google, as most proper attributions lead to Google with the caption suggesting it was a photo inside their Mayes County, Oklahoma data center.
( Note that I'm also not saying that this isn't a proper stock photo.  I have no idea if Google licensed it freely or licensed it to a stock photography service to sell, etc.  Some attributions mention EPA, but I can't spot it in their catalog - though I used filters as i'm not going to wade through thousands of results. Edit: The chip image, for example, is available as a stock photo - https://www.inmagine.com/amrf378/amrf09503010370-photo )

Again, though, that doesn't mean they shouldn't attempt to replace stock photography when they can.

Fair enough - but those investors would hopefully do their due diligence beyond salivating at/getting shot down by a bitcointalk thread

It does not really matter since these are coming in too late and not power efficient enough to be of any worth to me.
I will most likely buy 1 or 2 just to fuck around with it.

We're not talking about stock photography, but images purposely gleaned from various other websites. Even Sfards would scream foul if an image belonging to only them was taken from their site to advance whatever agenda.

Correct, that no moneys has been asked yet, but that doesn't stop people inquiring of them if they would take moneys early via other channels since their copy, et al., is more or less coming across as viable.

Those pics have been up since the better part of forever.  archive.org is slow, but you can check the march 15th capture.  Not that it matters much, but stock photography use is pretty low on a red flag list.  ( When there's claims of hardware in hand, that stock photography should be replaced or at least augmented with actual product photography. )

As soon as Li Xiao Lai et al stop investing?  I'm all for skepticism, but this isn't BFL and similar asking the public for money.  At worst most people here can be upset for getting their hopes up and/or spending a minute or two in this thread.

Yeah those pics after all this time is a huge red flag.

http://networksolutionexperts.com/category/international-networks/



http://www.sfards.com/product#part3



http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:dLY79R1Uq0gJ:www.det.polito.it/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



No viable entity should resort to using an image glean elsewhere to advance its concern, ergo I retract my endorsement.

There were pending issues needing addressing last night. Sfards was online and read the concerns. Sfards ignored the concerns.

When does the millions of dollars money grab end?

 
We know they can build this. 

The question is when does it release May 1st?
What does it mine hash wise  btc/256 at .4 watts or less?
What does it cost 25 cents a gh?  say 250 for a 1th machine.

If not it will be typical too costly too slow to get it gear.

I have to say that showing random photos of the insides of various industrial plants plus one of a 4" wafer does nothing to demomstrate their technology, nor does a bunch of graphs with headings like "Consumer Price Index", "Population Growth" and so on.

Sure, it's just space filler but it might have been better just to put 'under construction'.

Oh, and by the way guys, no one EVER said that Scrypt couldn't be "asic'd", any decent electronics designer could clearly deduce that it could and would at some point if it was commercially viable.

Look here http://www.sfards.com/product#part3

It requires a credentials for login, but I have no it. 

Not much of a teaser - that's straight off of one of SFARD's blog posts from back in December
http://www.sfards.com/detail?id=21

There's a better quality shot in one of their weibo, for those craving
http://photo.weibo.com/5202682471/wbphotos/large/mid/3785537854876641/pid/005G5Vnpgw1en2c3ou5p7j30k00zk423

I'm dying to see the specs.  It's been so long since a dual miner.  Will be interesting what they are able to do.  Not many miners do scrypt and sha, normally focus on one and make the best miner for that algo.

One Russian peddler promised to Russian community that he will get in hands something from SFARDS on April 17th. But he still can't say the exact specs, so as the price (hmm...). Tapeout was in November if we can trust to his words. First sales started in the end of February he says.

And here is another teaser:

Sfards is online now, so I say a post is forthcoming.

Oh... just saw this thread... I wonder what gridseed 2.0 is going to look like... the specs listed in the OP show some nice power efficiency predictions - at least on the SHA side.  Will be interesting to see the actual products that come of these chips.

Welcome to the forums SFARDS.  By the way... what's up with the deer on the desk?

hard to belive , i know they are somewhat efficient but at those prices and the rising diff they will ROI like sometime next year lol