Topic: [ANN] SONM • Decentralized Fog Computing - page 394. (Read 444927 times)

I honestly can't believe how many frustrated people are in this thread.

Here's the thing.

NO ONE is pushing you to invest in ANY ICO or established company for that matter, so shut the fuck up, suck it up and move on, or wait like the rest of us and see how everything unfolds - you may lose money, or you will probably make money. No one fucking knows, chill the out.

In all honesty, if I or anyone else were 100% sure the ROI will be double, triple, quadruple.. hell x30 times, we'd invest everything, we'd probably sell our cars, houses and even make loans to invest.

He is just trolling, I'd leave it alone if he gave me 5000 tokens tho.

I think it is going back to ICO price more sooner than your estimated time frame. Tomorrow is the most probably the day with some big news or updates which are caused of this recent positive movements in market too. I will say by next month we should expect it at 10k satoshi at least if not more.

Is there already a date announced when SONM mainnet will go public? I participated on a bounty campaign and I wondering if there are already news. In the corresponding bounty thread the participants were consoled without giving a exact date. Would be very grateful!

bountys will not happen before bittrex  
few pre ico investors left to dump the tokens , in 20-30 day we will be at ico price  and team will be calm and will focus on the develop of the product 


big software update is coming soon 

Np.  It was basic math and logic as you said, which SONM team appear to lack. Least you know why ICO is still being distributed.

Another strike.

This will be interesting to see if he puts up.

Deal:  0x9C9582FB1b6e1e22F4C09F86fDa41681241d590f

May be sonm will be cheaper alittle, may be not, but now good time to put buy support for mid time investment. I think it will be profitable in the near future.

Im waiting for bounty distrubition for buy some somn but as i saw as their promise it should already ended but hey didnt start yet. Waiting for some cheaper somn

@Almeida please give us your adress so we can drop you your 5k coins to leave us in peace ...

I think that's good enough for me and others holders. We'll wait ^)

I guess no. I've found only this post. However it's comparison between xel and others coins like eth, gnt.
https://www.elastic.pw/blog/2017-04-05-elastic-compared-to-other-competitors/

There is no classical mistake as you didn't say anywhere what would be the timestamp or criteria, you are conveniently choosing the time you imputed the transactions manually as will be clear from my comments below.


Yes I know that and my second transaction, the one I got more losses because of you, had 18 confirmations when I sent to your support an email saying I could not see it through. So you are not telling the truth as it will be clear below.

Only hours later the tokens were moved to my wallet, and your support sent me an email saying "hey, here is your tokens" right after the time the tokens were sent, just really right after, thus suggesting very strongly you did it manually.


Again, you didn't explain it anywhere and, again, I know very well tokens were not sent after 3 confirmations simply because I had much more than this and only hours after you sent the tokens. Looking at the very same links you posted below this will be proven.

Of course it makes sense that the tokens are sent within some confirmation in BTC blockchain, of course. But you didn't establish any parameter and you even said here that the timestamp of transaction would be counted. That's why I took the trouble to calculate for you the numbers you yourself, based on your own said parameters, could not calculate alone. Granted, not even the mined block time was respected by you as we will see below.


You don't need to believe, it is in the blockchain so anyone can check. Since you like proofs, how about a real proof looking at my second transaction?

https://blockexplorer.com/tx/8e7fdaedd1af60a5799dc6b3aac7160a37cd60c5486c210045e2a149a5aa86b0

Look at the time it was mined: 2017-06-17 08:05:32 AM UTC.

Now look at the time you gave me tokens here:

https://ethplorer.io/tx/0xc35b15f53bf9a38586d4c86fdef227bca431a0e10fef0c279fdae9636b94685b#pageSize=100

You sent me tokens at 2017-06-17 12:46:20 PM UTC, almost 5 hours after my confirmation!! How do you explain that now??? This shows without any doubt you gave tokens the moment you chose, thus turning what could be a technical mistake in a convenient form of delivering less tokens, that's the only conclusion since you are incapable of admitting your mistakes and the big mess in your ICO.


Do you think I and others are idiots? 10:34:09 PM +UTC is the time YOU imputed the transaction in ethereum blockchain. Do you really want to use the very thing I'm complaining about as an argument against me? Haha!

By your own example we see again how you screwed up the ICO. You sent those tokens only in Jun 15 at 10:34:09 PM UTC, but my transaction was mined in Jun 15 at 8:15:31 PM UTC. So, again, how full of bullshit are you? I'm so glad everybody is seeing how you guys lie and try to manipulate.

And you say I deliberately mislead everyone? You are a bunch of incompetent brats who got caught and now put the blame in who caught you. It is right there the time I sent the money, 17:40:08 UTC, there is nothing false about what I said moron, you came here and in slack to say the timestamp of transaction would be respected, the transaction was sent 17:40:08 UTC, period.

You, on the contrary, is deceiving people here on daily basis saying things will be solved in 1 or 2 days, for how long? Weeks. Then you say bonuses are solved, then they are not solved anymore. Geez! You just got busted once more above. Even disregarding the transaction time, and considering mined blocks time as YOU YOURSELF want, you sent me the tokens hours after, 2 hours and 19 minutes for the first one, 4 hours and 41 minutes for the second. The second I even had it accelerated half dozen times.

Let me put yet another proof of my honesty. The second transaction I asked for a time which was WORSE for me in BTC price, the price of BTC was worse the time I sent the transaction in comparison with the time you imputed it manually: 2549.07 USD was what I asked for the transaction at 08h04m24s AM of june 17th, you sent me tokens at 12:46:20 PM and BTC price was 2596.03 USD. Why I did it? Because I didn't want to con you, I want to put a fair request and that you gave me the correct exchange rate. How do you like them apples?


Yeah and you chose the worst exchange rate to give to me. That's why you keep ignoring the exchange rate issue. Why didn't you comment on that??? What was the exchange rate you used, hmm?


Be more honest! Respect your investors! Give the money back and show you are not a greedy liar!

Thanks dz4505 for defending logic and common sense.

This is getting worse than I thought, some basic math is a challenge for him. Let's calculate everything in BTC to make it easier. The actual ICO price for me was 5230 satoshi per token: BTC I put divided by how many tokens they gave me = 2.63136938/50,312.6154910489=5230 satoshi. So 5000 tokens are 0.00005230*5000=0.2615 BTC. This is what they took from me.

I can ditch it for 1800 satoshi per token (2000 is only bots pumping in liqui, this changes over time), so if we add to this calculation the loss in terms of BTC due to this whole mess in this ICO and public perception, my losses are (0.00005230-0.00001800)*50,312.6154910489 + 0.2615 = 1,72572271 + 0.2615 = 1,98722271. This is around 5,000.00 usd.

Only those 0.2615 BTC alone would be around 600 usd both right now and by ICO time.

But what me and that guy I quoted actually meant to say was that we lost 100% in this because we also lost other opportunities to support this project instead. It is the opportunity cost, but don't even think about trying to explain this to people who can't do some fucking kindergarten math.

Why they don't simply refund instead of exposing themselves more and more is beyond me.

it's ok. Next week 3000 Satoshi, August 5000 Satoshi and Christmas 

come on. be nice to the trolls.

Has anyone done a comparison between this and XEL?

Are u sure? +30% during past 2 hours

The price is rising slowly.this is good