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Topic: [ANN] Spells of Genesis - Innovating the Game Economy with BitCrystals (BCY) - page 213. (Read 676622 times)

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The main issue is:

......

Basically their offer is to promote Spells of Genesis trough their community platform, which has a good amount of users. It could definitely give a boost to the game, but since it’s mostly UK based, does it justify to give a cut to the worldwide sales ? They say they have good relation with Apple and Google UK (note all publishers say that) and that way the game could be pushed on the front door of the stores giving a lot of visibility and downloads. According to them, having a good visibility in UK store usually might lead to acquire a good visibility in other European countries and US too.

Advantages of working with channel 4:

- Small cut on the revenue, comparing to other publishers
- Reach towards their content channels with several millions users
- They are looking for new content, so it might be relatively easy to talk with them

Disadvantages:

- New to the games field, their ability to successfully promote the product still has to be proven
- Reach limited mostly to UK (could snowball but still to be proven)

......


I think that the correct answer is in the contract between EDS and Channel4, It needs some way out if sales didn't met certain targets.

The biggest (or the second) crypto market is China, EDS have to be free to sign contracts in that area whit other community platforms. (IMHO)
legendary
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well in my humble opinion it's worth continuing discussion with channel 4 as a stepping stone,
They will take a cut on the sells only or as i can imagine they need some
more substantial upfront to start considering an SOG campaign ?
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Hey community !

I have a very important topic I want to discuss with you

We've been approached by Channel 4, a very well known TV channel in UK. They liked spells of Genesis and they might open the discussion for a publishing deal.
Just to make it clear - they liked the game itself and they are probably unaware of the whole blockchain thing. It's just a beginning of discussion with them.

The role of a publisher is to provide marketing and visibility for the game studio. Making a great game is one thing, having people downloading it even if it’s a great game, it’s another challenge. Usually the game studio provides the creative input and the publisher makes sure the game is sustainable and makes money. A game can also be self-published but in that case the game studio requires solid marketing people, people who are emotionally not involved in the creative process but are on hard numbers. A good balance of both is required to have a great success.
Having a publisher implies a cost in the revenue share, but it’s worthy if the publisher invests in customer acquisition (marketing) and is able to make his job and drive revenues. Choosing the good publisher is critical, because he needs to be able to drive downloads to justify his cut. Big publishers usually are masters as analysing how much cost to acquire a new customer and how much revenue to expect from it.

So Channel 4 is a big name in UK, but a small publisher. Their cut is also very reasonable (confidential for the moment)

Basically their offer is to promote Spells of Genesis trough their community platform, which has a good amount of users. It could definitely give a boost to the game, but since it’s mostly UK based, does it justify to give a cut to the worldwide sales ? They say they have good relation with Apple and Google UK (note all publishers say that) and that way the game could be pushed on the front door of the stores giving a lot of visibility and downloads. According to them, having a good visibility in UK store usually might lead to acquire a good visibility in other European countries and US too.

Advantages of working with channel 4:

- Small cut on the revenue, comparing to other publishers
- Reach towards their content channels with several millions users
- They are looking for new content, so it might be relatively easy to talk with them

Disadvantages:

- New to the games field, their ability to successfully promote the product still has to be proven
- Reach limited mostly to UK (could snowball but still to be proven)

Since Spells of Genesis is also YOUR game, I’m asking you for your feedback before we go any deeper in the discussion. Remember this is only the beginning of our discussion, no deal will be signed before discussing further all the implications of such a deal. My question here is more this: Should we start discussing with them, knowing the fact it’s an investment in time?
I’m listening to your thought.

You can find more information about all4games on their website

http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/channel-4-to-launch-new-all-4-games-publishing-arm-in-scotland

http://www.all4games.co.uk/


I think that if the cut they take is reasonable its a good option, specially because you will be one of the first to work with them.

They are quite a big company so I assume they will invest good money into marketing the app.

legendary
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I'd say it's worth continuing discussion. Though they are new to publishing, they are a global, recognized entity with likely some very good contacts. If you're saying the cut is small then I say it's justified. Ultimately, we want to see this project succeed and proven requirements include user adoption. In today's world, that means downloads. This is great news for SoG, EverdreamSoft and the blockchain gaming industry!
legendary
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I think it would be great, channel 4 is big in the UK. You will get some good push on their channels and SoG really needs users outside of the Bitcoin space.
Also they may need to understand Bitcoin, BCY and what the cards mean for players. They could pitch it as a very innovative take on gaming.
However they may also get scared of it, so good to get to talk about it early and get feedback from them.

Mainstream exposure could do well for SoG. In my humble opinion.
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Hey community !

I have a very important topic I want to discuss with you

We've been approached by Channel 4, a very well known TV channel in UK. They liked spells of Genesis and they might open the discussion for a publishing deal.
Just to make it clear - they liked the game itself and they are probably unaware of the whole blockchain thing. It's just a beginning of discussion with them.

The role of a publisher is to provide marketing and visibility for the game studio. Making a great game is one thing, having people downloading it even if it’s a great game, it’s another challenge. Usually the game studio provides the creative input and the publisher makes sure the game is sustainable and makes money. A game can also be self-published but in that case the game studio requires solid marketing people, people who are emotionally not involved in the creative process but are on hard numbers. A good balance of both is required to have a great success.
Having a publisher implies a cost in the revenue share, but it’s worthy if the publisher invests in customer acquisition (marketing) and is able to make his job and drive revenues. Choosing the good publisher is critical, because he needs to be able to drive downloads to justify his cut. Big publishers usually are masters as analysing how much cost to acquire a new customer and how much revenue to expect from it.

So Channel 4 is a big name in UK, but a small publisher. Their cut is also very reasonable (confidential for the moment)

Basically their offer is to promote Spells of Genesis trough their community platform, which has a good amount of users. It could definitely give a boost to the game, but since it’s mostly UK based, does it justify to give a cut to the worldwide sales ? They say they have good relation with Apple and Google UK (note all publishers say that) and that way the game could be pushed on the front door of the stores giving a lot of visibility and downloads. According to them, having a good visibility in UK store usually might lead to acquire a good visibility in other European countries and US too.

Advantages of working with channel 4:

- Small cut on the revenue, comparing to other publishers
- Reach towards their content channels with several millions users
- They are looking for new content, so it might be relatively easy to talk with them

Disadvantages:

- New to the games field, their ability to successfully promote the product still has to be proven
- Reach limited mostly to UK (could snowball but still to be proven)

Since Spells of Genesis is also YOUR game, I’m asking you for your feedback before we go any deeper in the discussion. Remember this is only the beginning of our discussion, no deal will be signed before discussing further all the implications of such a deal. My question here is more this: Should we start discussing with them, knowing the fact it’s an investment in time?
I’m listening to your thought.

You can find more information about all4games on their website

http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/channel-4-to-launch-new-all-4-games-publishing-arm-in-scotland

http://www.all4games.co.uk/
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some bcy drop selling 7500  Shocked
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Does anyone else think the new card looks like a rip off of Dobby from Harry Potter?



similar but still definitely, different, nice catch though Smiley - I've been watching BCY closely and think it's due for a shove, the space for the EverdreamSoft team to move into is so versatile. We are going to see some really cool applications come forth. Keep up the good work EDS!
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Does anyone else think the new card looks like a rip off of Dobby from Harry Potter?

https://i.imgur.com/07stAjH.jpg
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What or where si a slack channel?

you can join the Spells of Genesis slack at https://spellsofgenesis.herokuapp.com/ It is a group chat software for project development where people can discuss various aspects of the project.
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Hallo to all, I know that the main goal now is the game, not the cards. But I'm sorry to say that EDS currently is not doing any valuable marketing job-
Twitter followers are nearly stable, likes on the 2 FB pages (english and Japan) are ridiculous, the slack channel is nearly death.

In this situation (no game, no marketing) is perfectly normal that cards do not sell quite well.

Marketing is equally important than the product, I think the SoG need Hype now. For example (only one example)  a chinese marketplace and a chinese cards (or a translation in chinese of the current cards).







What or where si a slack channel?
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Hallo to all, I know that the main goal now is the game, not the cards. But I'm sorry to say that EDS currently is not doing any valuable marketing job-
Twitter followers are nearly stable, likes on the 2 FB pages (english and Japan) are ridiculous, the slack channel is nearly death.

In this situation (no game, no marketing) is perfectly normal that cards do not sell quite well.

Marketing is equally important than the product, I think the SoG need Hype now. For example (only one example)  a chinese marketplace and a chinese cards (or a translation in chinese of the current cards).






i completely agree but would take it a step or two further.....
disclosure:  i proudly participated in the token sale and have a lot of respect for yodark and his team.  that being said, I'm seriously concerned about the project and its creative direction.  i haven't been able to discern where the storyline is or where it is going.  seems like the one thing that is going well is card sales (until recently).  btw, some of the recent cards are just silly.  doge? a second gox related card?! an LTC card?  block trail?  yikes.  where is the underlying storyline?  protagonists/antagonists?  franchises are built on characters and the cultivation of a storyline and a theme.  there are so many examples in media/movies/entertainment these days.  look at the new star wars movie (the first order) or the marvel series of movies they churn out every 6 months or batman/superman vs -insert your favorite superhero-, or the predator series or, or, or......  a robust game economy will never carry a game that is not compelling.  the pendulum needs to swing, and fast.  as they say in poker, i'm pot committed but not afraid to fold.  just my .02 satoshis.....  
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 Hallo to all, I know that the main goal now is the game, not the cards. But I'm sorry to say that EDS currently is not doing any valuable marketing job-
Twitter followers are nearly stable, likes on the 2 FB pages (english and Japan) are ridiculous, the slack channel is nearly death.

In this situation (no game, no marketing) is perfectly normal that cards do not sell quite well.

Marketing is equally important than the product, I think the SoG need Hype now. For example (only one example)  a chinese marketplace and a chinese cards (or a translation in chinese of the current cards).





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Got to get me one of theeeeese  Smiley
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so many cards Shocked

Must collect them all
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