Topic: [ANN] Spells of Genesis - Innovating the Game Economy with BitCrystals (BCY) - page 211. (Read 676886 times)

i became a new holder... come on marketing guys need an ETHEREUM angle...

Yes, very low

meaning low purchases?

Great info thanks.

I wonder if SoG assets and the vunk asset system can somehow work together in the future... seems ETH has lots of momentum and Counterparty not so much.....

Master Burn Report



January was a very weak month

my favorite time all month! Still a pretty successful month. As we lead up to the months before public launch it will be interesting to see what happens , especially if we see cards become available for $.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dyi7yMsqDOxCzk2cf9slODeein2L4GCDVubCY706QR8/edit#gid=2029115033

The Master Burning report is Out

@yodark is the Spells of Genesis developer and founder of EverDreamSoft


Some of the SoG cards are already playable in EverdreamSoft´s previous trading cards game, Moonga. More cards are being integrated as time goes on. This is a way to explore how blockchain based game assets can be used on multiple game platforms and also get the previous user base of Moonga players involved in using blockchain based digital assets and to hopefully onboard some of them to Spells of Genesis. Find out more about Moonga at http://www.moonga.com/ All the SoG blockchain based digital game assets can be freely traded outside the game and also, other game devs can choose to integrate these into their own games if they want. The www.FreeMyVunk.com movement is promoting this concept of digital game asset sharing between different games. I think SoG is also part of this reVUNKolution in a way even though their game assets are issued on Counterparty and not the Ethereum platform used by FreeMyVunk.


Currently, SoG runs a Bitcrystals swapbot where they put some of the BCY earned from cardsales back up for sale to the public.

https://swapbot.tokenly.com/bot/spellsofgenesis/bitcrystals#choose

I think the buyback feature you are referring to will be implemented later on in the final release, right now players can not yet purchase blockchain based cards from inside the beta version of SoG. Buying cards for fiat is not yet implemented in the game. So I doubt that EDS would have any reason at this point to be buying BCY on Poloniex. But I guess SoG staff could better answer this question.


There are actually only less than 200 SATOSHICARDs in existence   Originally, 1000 were issued but of those, EDS burned 800 leaving only 200 in circulation, but then one SATOSHICARD holder decided to send a small fraction of one card to the burn address, so they made that card which is missing a piece unplayable in the game.   So yes, SATOSHICARD will be a very rare game asset indeed!



BCY is already listed on shapeshift so you can turn them back into bitcoins if you want. Also the shapeshift feature already integrated into Bitcrystals Box Chrome extension allows people to shift BCY to BTC and back (as well as turn other altcoins into BCY)

Maybe some kind of tournaments arena where have player vs player battles? Guaranteed prize pool and buy-in from each player to tournament what make amount even higher.

Example if SoG team give 1 BTC prize pool and  every player join pay 0.1+0.01 BTC, with 100 player SoG get their money back and prize pool is 11 BTC.

5 best player win money:
1st  5 BTC
2nd 3 BTC
3rd 2 BTC
4th 0.7 BTC
5th 0.3 BTC

Ofc there no have yet 100 players who take part but maybe some day First times sponsor or sog team can even make minus when add money to prize pool because if game is good and there is money for good players there will sure come more and more players

I think EDS should print physical cards you can buy. I think it will be both a revenue stream, will help immensely with communication and interest level, and could be an additional collectors item as well. My suggestion is that the card have a printable square for QR code that has proof of ownership.

I spent a lot of time on the poloniex chat room trying my best to answer lots of basic questions about BCY, SOG, and EDS

Not sure if you work for EDS but here are some of the common themes and not so common ideas:

1. The counterparty, bcy bitcoin, blockchain, relationship is confusing to me and most people. I seem to get most of it now, but this was a barrier to entry for me and others. I think SOG will do well to provide services that completely hide the crypto complexity. I see a new wallet came out specifically for SOG, which is awesome the team is already on this.
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3. A common response is "so there is no physical card???", see my comment above. While not necessary, a physical card that has my QR code on it would be cool. I am curious, it seems there is a permanent colored coin marker for each coin somewhere in counterparty techno universe, so regardless of how many time a coin is sold, there is always the same color coin QR code marker? If so my physical card could be forever linked to the digital asset???, which would be way cool and would likely increase immensely the value of my card I own. Of course I would want to own the physical card AND the digital one.
4. There is an idea on the chat room that the game that is coming out has to be successful for BCY and cards to have value. While this intuitively makes sense, it is probably not exactly correct. Especially, if you can tie the coin to a physical card, because then it builds on its secondary value which is a collectible.
5. Also, the cards are inputs to game play, whether it is your current mobile game or an actual card game, there could be many games that are built on top of the card attributes. Are there any such plans for additional games built on top of the card attributes?
6. It seems the EDS revenue model is to make money in the appstore or android store. For in game purchases EDS is buying 50% back of BCY at market prices? Is there a bot on Poloniex testing this right now. I see odd behavior on Poloniex that could be a test of this buyback feature.
7. Rather than burn them, I think you should do a quarterly dividend and disperse them to addresses with x amount of BCY. Maybe this could be a long-term strategy, I think eventually burning them creates too much deflation, too few coins.
8. If SOG has millions of players isn't the satoshi card going to be too rare with only 1000.... Maybe this is how other card games work.
9. Someone asked if they can play the game and earn bitcoin... that would be a cool marketing feature if you could use shapeshift or something and convert in game credits to bitcoin. People want bitcoin not just bcy

Interesting. So how do you determine participating threshold, what is the threshold? I have lots of bcy and almost 10 cards. Am I premium?

No new comers will be able to upgrade their membership to become partner and premium users if they are participating to a certain threshold. Right now there is no offers but keep posted. Note partners and premium users are acting as resellers since it's a free trade market you can find all cards on exchanges
www.sogassets.com

Thanks for the feedback and report Will pass to devs

Thank you for your questions



Actually When the game will take off owning coin and asset is a way to pre purchase in app purchases as a discounted price

I don't know if you know how counterparty works but basically it's a way of storing digital assets (like games cards, levels or BCY...) on the bitcoin blockchain. Counterparty offers a good set of tools that are not available on Ethereum yet such as decentralised exachange and SPV wallet allowing mobile light wallet, a must for any newcomer.

BCY is deflationary each time someone purchase for example a card on SOG half of it is burned. Also cards have a limited supply meaning they will get more valuable if the demand for them are increasing by newcomers who want them.


Yes Every blockchain card can be audited on the blockchain, insuance, transactions etc.
 Note "the coin's blockchain" is the bitcoin blockchain it works like colored coin if you are familiar with it. Meaning a Bitcrystals tixid or a card tixid is a bitcoin blockchain transaction tix
https://counterpartychain.io/transaction/433b88b3721295af0e31e76f3b2e4ac38f5b41bfea5b35a413455b19eb30d9e6
and if you look at the same tix on blockchain.info
https://blockchain.info/tx/433b88b3721295af0e31e76f3b2e4ac38f5b41bfea5b35a413455b19eb30d9e6
https://counterpartychain.io/

Even counterparty might evolve and since it's based on bitcoin every change on CP and BTC is affecting BitCrystals as well, but basically right now we have everything we need being able to issue new card on the blockchain and allowing people to freely trade. Thing that need improvement are the tools automated selling bots, wallets UIX (user experience) etc.
Right now they are only digital
As mentioned before BCY and all asset that we have right now are secured by bitcoin blockchain. Transaction fees has to be paid in BTC to miners.

That is ruthless, but sure, use once burn forever....

Have you think make hardcore mode where cards die forever in some cases in game so that can't use anymore again in hardcore mode? Are that even possible make so?

So newcomers are just screwed i guess

Only people that participated in the token sale at the partner level are whitelisted. As stated by SoG staff, this card will go first to partner store and then to premium store. Also there was another level of participation at the lifetime premium player levels so in premium store only those people can buy. Partners resell cards to the public, so those cards that don´t go directly to the public as in the case of Satoshilite, can be purchased from the partners. You can find out more at bitcrystals.com, also on that site there is a link to join the SoG slack so you can get answers to your questions in real time.