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Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 151. (Read 1260400 times)

legendary
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While the BitFury Mining Center article is interesting, it is from August of 2014. It explicitly mentions CoinTerra as a competitor and it's planned Canada data center. Things can and do change a lot in the 6 months since that article was written (e.g. the exit of CoinTerra). I personally expect the next halving to be a fairly disruptive event. 

Don't compare BitFury with ConTerra. Bitfury had a 110GH/s rig back in the FPGA days when miners were having <1Th/s rigs. Plus the fact that they received tons of money from investors. Much over what ConTerra raised.
alh
legendary
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While the BitFury Mining Center article is interesting, it is from August of 2014. It explicitly mentions CoinTerra as a competitor and it's planned Canada data center. Things can and do change a lot in the 6 months since that article was written (e.g. the exit of CoinTerra). I personally expect the next halving to be a fairly disruptive event. 
legendary
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ASIC Wannabe

Even more powerful.  Bitfurys new  Georgia mine. Also surprising  is they estimate  40% of all bitcoins  mined are using  their chips.   I guess their  new venture into immersion  technology  will give them another leg up.

I was thinking about this today.  I was around when the first great halving occurred.  Now, like most small miners, I'm barely scraping by.  If things don't change drastically, the next great halving will drive me out.

M

Can the big guys cover the bills at the next halving? Payroll, taxes, facility up keep, Security?

halving is still a ways off, and anyone whose able to mine a decent profit before it will probably continue to do so after (likely 25-30% of the hashrate will turn off whent he halving occurs due to no longer being profitable) - the difficulty will adjust in accordance with the halving and BTC value at the time
hero member
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If everyone did, the share difficulty would be through the roof.  2,222,770,798 if I understand it right..

p2pool is not the answer.

a rewrite perhaps.  but not in its current incarnation.

I was thinking about this the other day, actually, and I think I got a good solution to the problem. You can read it here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10519027
sr. member
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Can the big guys cover the bills at the next halving? Payroll, taxes, facility up keep, Security?

If there is talk of them making money at $70, then I would say yes.

M

If things stay the same I'm screwed and need to find another hobby.
legendary
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Can the big guys cover the bills at the next halving? Payroll, taxes, facility up keep, Security?

If there is talk of them making money at $70, then I would say yes.

M
sr. member
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Even more powerful.  Bitfurys new  Georgia mine. Also surprising  is they estimate  40% of all bitcoins  mined are using  their chips.   I guess their  new venture into immersion  technology  will give them another leg up.

I was thinking about this today.  I was around when the first great halving occurred.  Now, like most small miners, I'm barely scraping by.  If things don't change drastically, the next great halving will drive me out.

M

Can the big guys cover the bills at the next halving? Payroll, taxes, facility up keep, Security?
legendary
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The whole design of p2pool is not efficient for large scale farms due to the frequent work restarts. While this could be improved by rewriting it in C this is not really a viable end solution for decentralization.

Yes, a rewrite means a redesign.  The existing design is fatally flawed.

M
sr. member
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centralization incoming Sad

If only everyone used p2pool....... Wink

If everyone did, the share difficulty would be through the roof.  2,222,770,798 if I understand it right..

p2pool is not the answer.

a rewrite perhaps.  but not in its current incarnation.

M

A rewrite is the only answer  Wink

C coders apply within.
The whole design of p2pool is not efficient for large scale farms due to the frequent work restarts. While this could be improved by rewriting it in C this is not really a viable end solution for decentralization.
No one codes C any more Smiley
Performance critical software is written in C such as cgminer and pool software like ckpool.
legendary
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Even more powerful.  Bitfurys new  Georgia mine. Also surprising  is they estimate  40% of all bitcoins  mined are using  their chips.   I guess their  new venture into immersion  technology  will give them another leg up.

I was thinking about this today.  I was around when the first great halving occurred.  Now, like most small miners, I'm barely scraping by.  If things don't change drastically, the next great halving will drive me out.

M
hero member
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Even more powerful.  Bitfurys new  Georgia mine. Also surprising  is they estimate  40% of all bitcoins  mined are using  their chips.   I guess their  new venture into immersion  technology  will give them another leg up.
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No one codes C any more Smiley
legendary
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Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....
centralization incoming Sad

If only everyone used p2pool....... Wink

If everyone did, the share difficulty would be through the roof.  2,222,770,798 if I understand it right..

p2pool is not the answer.

a rewrite perhaps.  but not in its current incarnation.

M

A rewrite is the only answer  Wink

C coders apply within.
legendary
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centralization incoming Sad

If only everyone used p2pool....... Wink

If everyone did, the share difficulty would be through the roof.  2,222,770,798 if I understand it right..

p2pool is not the answer.

a rewrite perhaps.  but not in its current incarnation.

M
legendary
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here is the problem as I see it. if bitfury can run 50-100ph at 2 cents a kwatt and .2 watts a gh.

 they turn a profit at under 70 bucks a btc.

in fact if they run 100 ph and it uses 30 mega watts they still make money.
even if btc is  70 dollars a coin and diff is 100 vs the 44 is it now.



70$ ?

With deploying cost, manufacturing cost, chip research and first manufacture cost, maintenance cost, investors money and investors profit and some others?

Are you sure?

well power is 3.8 cents so I may be just a bit off.    but lets do 3.8 cents and .3 watts a gh at

 70 bucks and diff of 94 vs 44

 they turn a profit over operating costs
and go under op costs at diff of 129

but if they add 100ph in 2 weeks or so diff will not be 94 it will be 55.  
   and they do not go bad until the price drops out to 70 and diff of 129.



maybe i don't get something, but don't they already have a large market share?
would you rather have 30-40% market share with bitcoin at 240 vs, say, 60% with bitcoin at $70.
i just don't see the benefit for them.

re 3rd gen-I hope spondoolies does something interesting, but vibes from the main Guy here suggests otherwise, unless he is a poker player  Wink.
hero member
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The biggest problem for small/home miners is access to technology.  The cheaper power by the largest manufacturers/self miners are somewhat offset by the Asic  research, design,  and development, rent, and operational/maintenance costs.
hero member
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Run a Bitcoin node.
The home miner can still survive if we have a cheap gears with more efficiency on retails markets.

BitFury may have access to 30 MW facility but home miners have access to more large power (United) if they found cheap gears.

The home miner can indeed survive, no centralized organization can challenge the power of the people together in consensus. Thank you spondoolies for continuing to pursue this plan. I think we can be victorious in the struggle to keep Bitcoin decentralized. Smiley
Well said.

ST - I'm sure there are still retail customers interested in your 3rd gen product, I know I am!
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