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Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 388. (Read 1260354 times)

legendary
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If I am reading this right SPTech gave him 9 more SP30's As compensation?

SP will not refund in Cash, they will refund in Vouchers which to me is useless because I won't want to put money back in mining in the future if this is the same situation I'm going to fine myself in worrying about not reaching ROI. So instead of getting vouchers the added 9 SP30s are there to start mining NOW

this guy is even bragging about it...
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Clueless!
I am at an undisclosed location here in Europe and the best price on energy I can get is 0.1093 €/kWh ~ 0.1458 $/kWh exclusive VAT (and we have 20% VAT here, which I may or may not be able to omit, depending if I can let the company pay for and operate my mining endeavor).

And NO, I'm not in the least interested in any cloud or data center mining offer!

Mining margins are going to be getting much thinner as time wears on. Only those with the cheapest (and hopefully also cleanest) electricity running the most efficient hardware will be able to make a profit. That's when people will stop adding to the network hashrate, and the so-far inexorable push of the difficulty will finally meet its end. There are places in the world that pay 1/7th of what you do for electricity. I'm in one of them.

If you insist on mining at home, then you have three options, as far as I can see it. you can either

1) Move somewhere with cheaper electricity,
2) Mine at a loss, or
3) Stop mining.



Yeah I did not really want to get a refund for the august GB order (just sent in my bank info to spondoolies for the refund as they are ready to send it) but man I wanted one as a home miner and an SP30 bad...bad..bad...then found out about ...the noise issue...the power went up....and me at 15c/kwh it made no sense..so then I dumped 1800 usd for the 6 months hosting....(saving $194 over my mining at
home in elec costs)....so thought I was pretty much stuck..no refund...forced to chase GB hosting in order to
at least break even on electricity and the noise issue such..and alas ... no refund option I thought just gonna have to lump it
.....cross fingers my 100amp elec panel was adequate vs me paying $2.5k for a 200 amp re-do.....ah the joys of bitcoin and pre-oders and being a miner...

..then spondoolies (Guy) on this thread said GB users could get a refund...likely because the GB did not meet the specs hash
and power usage wise ....had to read that a few times to make sure it was frigging real....and I grabbed it....kinda desperately I might add....... as a home miner type I was already
well out of my depth with what spondoolies kept recommending as a commercial unit that should be hosted as such and me trying (failing)
to morph it into a home miner......then punting it back to Aug GB hosting...etc

Really like the company..but expected (my mistake I might add) that I could somehow run this beastie at home..but with the hash down from 6TH to 4.5TH and up
in watts from 2500 to 3000 watts...and of course then I find out about the noise issue (got a cheap decibel meter on amazon 25 bucks ..amazing how loud 69db can
be (my canister vac cleaner is 69.3db) with the basement windows open....dogs bark..... neighbors inquire..it did not bode well... sheesh)

so....really like the company...was not really enthused about being a 'hosted miner' so hell I took the offered refund with gratitude .....alas I still lust
after their machines..but have to grow up and face the fact home mining is likely dead after this year....it frigging makes no sense in my circumstances...although
this had to be beat into my head

so imho looks to me (esp at BTC price point of $475 usd today) that I seem to be out of the home mining biz....btc mining is going/has gone whatever commercial...

always the last guy to get the joke don't ya know..duh... (do have a non ROI KNC Titan coming so the joke is still on me..that truly is no refund...oh well)

so anyway unless I get fired up about a pre-order to host someplace....I guess I'm out of the miner game...if for some reason/miracle spondoolies makes something
I would be comfortable with in the future I'd buy it....but the trend is commercial ..and I will just have to suck it up like the GPU guys had to do when ASIC's came
along and move on...

(move on ..not big on hosting miners....cloud mining...nor the GAWminer hashnet whatever....so....frack....looks like www.coinbase.com is the way to go..just frigging
buy con..argh.....especially if BTC keeps dropping...boring....no whirly soothing sounds..no pretty LCD lights...no comfort in babysitting the beast every day and watching it hash ...

a lost art I guess..

anyway spondoolies came thru on the refund and again I'm grateful......just gonna have to use my NON ROI KNC Titan (no refund)  for good....start a gang of NON ROI Titans to launch
51% attacks against new sh*ty alt coins etc....get some spandex and a cape...make a secret lair for meetings..yeah theres the ticket....should be able to run them pretty lcd lights on
that beast a long long time w/o worrying about pesky ROI

so it goes

thanks again Guy and Spondoolies ....I appreciate the refund offer ..you did not have to make such....I am grateful and will try to herd some business your way if I'm asked
to make up for the refund to myself....I should be able to pull that much off within the next 1/2 year....

thanks again

Searing


legendary
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Personal text my ass....
Hi all.
We are experiencing some issues with our SW upgrade server which we are investigating. Sometimes it down - in such cases retry after 5 minutes.

We added a way to upload image from your computer so in future you are not dependant on SW upgrade server so much.

Can you implement that in the SP10 as well? I always hate doing "live" firmware upgrades, especially if there is no fail back built in. I've bricked enough hardware in my time using "live" or "online" firmware upgrades. I'll always opt for doing it manually with a local file.
Thanks.
legendary
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Personal text my ass....
So its 1pm on Thursday in Israel right now and I still haven't even got a email about the compensation options.... Starting to seriously doubt the possibility that they will ship all the GB units by the end of the week...

Prove me wrong Spondoolies ... prove me wrong please  Undecided


I haven´t gotten my tracking email either.

I am quite sure that spondoolies will ship in August though, and if any delays should occur I am also quite certain they will make it right by providing some sort of compensation.

I never post about people, but Collider, I have to say you have the brownest nose I have ever seen. Acting that way in the neighborhood I grew up would get your ass kicked. Dude, chill out on the brown nose posts for a bit? They are mostly all just repeating what was said or pushing your nose up SP-TECH's ass further.
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@Zvisha is there any way I could up the max wattage setting to at least 1200 or so ?

1200W will make your PSUs go into thermal overload. When I was using 120V, the best I could get in a cold room was around 1170. I wasn't able to maintain that on both PSUs, though, and not for more than a few hours. The best I could get in a warm room sustained was around 1120.

how much would you need for the hosting up front ?

http://toom.im/faq#orders

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Q: How does pricing work?
We charge by the kilowatt-month (kW·mo) for expected power usage; all other fees are included in that flat rate. To host an SP30 you'd need to pay

- For 1 month of hosting: $297 up front (99 $/kW/mo)
- For 3 months of hosting: $837 up front (93 $/kW/mo)
- For 6 months of hosting: $1548 up front (86 $/kW/mo)
- For 12 months of hosting: $2880 up front (80 $/kW/mo)
- Shipping costs and delays: Customer's responsibility.
- Payments via Paypal and Credit Card: Add 3%; via BTC or check: free.
newbie
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Now read everything again.


If I am reading this right SPTech gave him 9 more SP30's As compensation?

SP will not refund in Cash, they will refund in Vouchers which to me is useless because I won't want to put money back in mining in the future if this is the same situation I'm going to fine myself in worrying about not reaching ROI. So instead of getting vouchers the added 9 SP30s are there to start mining NOW and not in the future because the future of mining is an uncertain thing, especially when the difficulty keeps going up and the rate keeps going down. So basically the decision was to try and get to ROI and moving to Toom.im hosting was a MUST otherwise I will lose even more.

This is so unfair for the rest of the people who ordered miners here, you better didn't mention it. Now looking at the compensation, the bank info is not for vouchers isn't it?

There is nothing unfair about this it all breaks down to who paid for the miners first, we are all waiting to receive our units regardless of the screw up.

Yeah, absolutely nothing unfair. For a guy with a big mouth ordering 20 units, being compensated 45% (9 SP30) with SEPTEMBER units (1st batch), while August buyers with units delivered are being given SP31 vouchers for units shipping in October with only 21% coverage. What worries me is that you still complain about your "potential" losses. For guys like you, there's medication (Benzodiazepine derivatives) which might help with your anxiety issues.
Buy one of these: https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcStXb9w3PEzhbCbhKaVMM2PCFbtwfE5n_hjCv89vpVfxe_rxfiKtA

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I'm just going to leave you to argue with yourself, no point wasting my time on you. The last thing I will leave you with is this: Don't compare customers to each other, the fact is that we are in this situation because of SP didn't deliver on their promise of 6TH at 2500W and that's as simple as that. I have nothing against any other person here I am simply voicing my opinion and experience i've had so far. While some people may have had it worst it doesn't mean I am not entitled to say my thoughts, they are free to complain too if they want.
legendary
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is there a thread that discusses FW upgrades?

hero member
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Now read everything again.


If I am reading this right SPTech gave him 9 more SP30's As compensation?

SP will not refund in Cash, they will refund in Vouchers which to me is useless because I won't want to put money back in mining in the future if this is the same situation I'm going to fine myself in worrying about not reaching ROI. So instead of getting vouchers the added 9 SP30s are there to start mining NOW and not in the future because the future of mining is an uncertain thing, especially when the difficulty keeps going up and the rate keeps going down. So basically the decision was to try and get to ROI and moving to Toom.im hosting was a MUST otherwise I will lose even more.

This is so unfair for the rest of the people who ordered miners here, you better didn't mention it. Now looking at the compensation, the bank info is not for vouchers isn't it?

There is nothing unfair about this it all breaks down to who paid for the miners first, we are all waiting to receive our units regardless of the screw up.

Yeah, absolutely nothing unfair. For a guy with a big mouth ordering 20 units, being compensated 45% (9 SP30) with SEPTEMBER units (1st batch), while August buyers with units delivered are being given SP31 vouchers for units shipping in October with only 21% coverage. What worries me is that you still complain about your "potential" losses. For guys like you, there's medication (Benzodiazepine derivatives) which might help with your anxiety issues.
Buy one of these:

Now read everything again.
ZiG
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I forgot what kind of warranty was for SP30s if any?

Warranty...fot Bitcoin miners... Grin Grin Grin

Are you kidding... Huh

ZiG

Nope .. no kidding. SP-T said they will service the miners if they don't start up or have PSU issues while they stabilize, and Zvi is  helping everyone with problems as far as I know. Some power supplies were replaced already. What would you want more?

Super... for SP and their customers... SP is again standing out ...as BTC mining gear supplier ... Congratulations... Grin

They are the only one ...exemption to validate the rule...Capisco... Huh

Cheers ...and good luck mining,

ZiG

newbie
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Now read everything again.


If I am reading this right SPTech gave him 9 more SP30's As compensation?

SP will not refund in Cash, they will refund in Vouchers which to me is useless because I won't want to put money back in mining in the future if this is the same situation I'm going to fine myself in worrying about not reaching ROI. So instead of getting vouchers the added 9 SP30s are there to start mining NOW and not in the future because the future of mining is an uncertain thing, especially when the difficulty keeps going up and the rate keeps going down. So basically the decision was to try and get to ROI and moving to Toom.im hosting was a MUST otherwise I will lose even more.

This is so unfair for the rest of the people who ordered miners here, you better didn't mention it. Now looking at the compensation, the bank info is not for vouchers isn't it?

There is nothing unfair about this it all breaks down to who paid for the miners first, we are all waiting to receive our units regardless of the screw up.
hero member
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I forgot what kind of warranty was for SP30s if any?

Warranty...fot Bitcoin miners... Grin Grin Grin

Are you kidding... Huh

ZiG

Nope .. no kidding. SP-T said they will service the miners if they don't start up or have PSU issues while they stabilize, and Zvi is  helping everyone with problems as far as I know. Some power supplies were replaced already. What would you want more?
hero member
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I forgot what kind of warranty was for SP30s if any?

Warranty...fot Bitcoin miners... Grin Grin Grin

Are you kidding... Huh

ZiG

Yes, for bitcoin miners..

Some companies offered warranty if units break down or not performing as expected within limited period after delivery.
They promised replacement or compensation...

How many have delivered as promised on that replacement and compensation?

Not so much about the "offers" but the "delivery" on that "promise".
sr. member
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I forgot what kind of warranty was for SP30s if any?

Warranty...fot Bitcoin miners... Grin Grin Grin

Are you kidding... Huh

ZiG

Yes, for bitcoin miners..

Some companies offered warranty if units break down or not performing as expected within limited period after delivery.
They promised replacement or compensation...
hero member
Activity: 572
Merit: 500

Now read everything again.


If I am reading this right SPTech gave him 9 more SP30's As compensation?

SP will not refund in Cash, they will refund in Vouchers which to me is useless because I won't want to put money back in mining in the future if this is the same situation I'm going to fine myself in worrying about not reaching ROI. So instead of getting vouchers the added 9 SP30s are there to start mining NOW and not in the future because the future of mining is an uncertain thing, especially when the difficulty keeps going up and the rate keeps going down. So basically the decision was to try and get to ROI and moving to Toom.im hosting was a MUST otherwise I will lose even more.

This is so unfair for the rest of the people who ordered miners here, you better didn't mention it. Now looking at the compensation, the bank info is not for vouchers isn't it?
ZiG
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
I forgot what kind of warranty was for SP30s if any?

Warranty...fot Bitcoin miners... Grin Grin Grin

Are you kidding... Huh

ZiG
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
I forgot what kind of warranty was for SP30s if any?
newbie
Activity: 42
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Now read everything again.


If I am reading this right SPTech gave him 9 more SP30's As compensation?

SP will not refund in Cash, they will refund in Vouchers which to me is useless because I won't want to put money back in mining in the future if this is the same situation I'm going to fine myself in worrying about not reaching ROI. So instead of getting vouchers the added 9 SP30s are there to start mining NOW and not in the future because the future of mining is an uncertain thing, especially when the difficulty keeps going up and the rate keeps going down. So basically the decision was to try and get to ROI and moving to Toom.im hosting was a MUST otherwise I will lose even more.
hero member
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Roadstress, stop selling your BTC Smiley the price is dropping and everything is your fault LOL Grin
legendary
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The noise is killing my roommate in the basement as well , I think ill work on getting it shipped to you, how much will it cost to ship from Minneapolis.
$52 UPS Ground, $132 3-Day Select, etc. 18 kg. Contact [email protected] if you want a shipping address.

The PSUs are also much louder on 120V than on 200+V. Lower efficiency means more heat, which means faster fans. You could also reduce the noise by putting them on a 240V line.

how much would you need for the hosting up front ?
legendary
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Is it ok to turn fans down from 80% to like 60%
That depends on the intake air temperature. The chips should throttle before any damage can be done though.
I think much of the noise comes from the PSU fans, but I might be mistaken.

True. Try 70 and see on asic stats page. If asics or dc2dc get too hot return to 80. The problem is I dont remember what is too hot for dc2dc, but under 100c is definietly not too hot.

Thanks for the tip

I tried 60, the miner seems slighty louder and temps are around 86 85
also increased the voltage from .76 to .79 to see if I could get more hash rate , seems to be stable at 4050 TH

Also noticed a new firmware build , what is in it and should I update the miner ?

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@Zvisha is there any way I could up the max wattage setting to at least 1200 or so ?

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