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Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 483. (Read 1260350 times)

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Where are you paying 600$ to host a 3kW device?

That seems a bit excessive, even for a professional datacenter.
legendary
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That's ok  as far a a nice PR response, but we would really need to see this compensation plan sooner rather than later(October) as you are shipping these units now...correct? and if we receive them as opposed to them being hosted by you, the we are on the hook for either scouting for a good hosting facility which may or may not be cheaper for 3Kw or the alternative to run them in our homes, and hire an electrician if needed to add the extra power to run a single 3Kw unit, while most of us here I would have to assume and say have more than this 1 miner (assuming all they bought is 1 SP30) in their arsenal.

So as a suggestion:
- Provide the compensation plan as soon as possible
- Distribute the actual compensation as soon as possible, why would it make any sense for anyone but ST to hold off with compensation if you are offering it anyways? at least this way people may have the opportunity to pay for another hosting option or 'hire' that electrician if needed.

You could always lower your own hosting plans, but as you mentioned above that is not an option.

Just some thoughts, as most people here I would think were expecting a higher performing machine with lower power consumption with a better ROI.

That's all. nothing personal against ST at all, I think you guys are great and cutting edge.

Just trying to make it seem fair for everyone involved.

Thanks!
Fully agree here, luckily i just ordered one , and if hosting is going to cost over $600 per month I might as well find a local hosting company or run the miner from home, we really need to see what this compensation package is before the units ship.
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so 4500gh at 3000 watts

okay that is .666 watts a hash .


made in Israel. .666 watts a hash. coincidence?

Speechless! Really?!  Huh

It's not pulling 3000. It's pulling 2910. So it's 646.

"Number 646 is a compilation of the energies and vibrations of number 6 and number 4, with number 6 appearing repeated, amplifying its influences.  Number 6 lends its attributes of stability and grace, acquisition, healing, love of home and family, protection, care and nurturing, solution-finding and problem-solving, reliability and responsibility, integrity and honesty.  Number 6 also relates to the material aspects of life.  Number 4 resonates with truth and integrity, practicality, working steadily towards achieving goals and aspirations, system and order, self-initiation, building solid foundations and enthusiasm coupled with determination. Number 4 also relates to the energies of the Archangels."

http://sacredscribesangelnumbers.blogspot.co.il/2011/10/angel-number-646.html


I like this explanation of the numbers Smiley

   
Email I just sent with response regarding their hosting prices remaining the same:

"That might make sense for you on your end regarding just the straight up power issue.

But for someone who owns one of these and is looking for affordable hosting, In their head they saw $500 a month to host my 6TH/s miner and figured out their ROI etc. now we are looking at a 4.5TH/s unit and that not being our fault but a design flaw, the ROI is now lower for that person to host the same gear for the same price.

So when people are looking for hosting if it will cost them more to host a unit than it will earn them ROI, that is not going to a be a wise choice for them. They need to figure out, OK its costing me "x" to host this for am month and I will earn "y" during that time, which gives me a profit of "z"

Basically : y-x=z

I would think since this all happened which may not be your fault entirely, one way of helping out your customers 'keep the faith' so to speak, is to reduce hosting costs for people who want to host their gear, not only as a sign of good faith, but as plain old good business.

Basically with the bump in power consumption and the reduction in TH/s the hosting plan just got worse and less attractive. Sometimes in order to make it work out for everyone, things need to be flexible and this could be part of a compensation plan option including whatever you have in mind.

Atah Mayveen? (you understand?)

let me know what you think."

The reply:
   
"Gadi Glikberg (Spondoolies Tech)
Jul 30 16:49

Thank you for bringing that to our attention.

We provide hosting at our own cost as a service to our customers.
Our small customer data center is located in Israel where electricity costs
are high and there are many other hosting options that are cheaper than
ours.

Your input is important to us and will consider adding a list of
recommended hosting facilities once we complete the plans for the
compensation plans.

Regards,

Gadi"

That's ok  as far a a nice PR response, but we would really need to see this compensation plan sooner rather than later(October) as you are shipping these units now...correct? and if we receive them as opposed to them being hosted by you, the we are on the hook for either scouting for a good hosting facility which may or may not be cheaper for 3Kw or the alternative to run them in our homes, and hire an electrician if needed to add the extra power to run a single 3Kw unit, while most of us here I would have to assume and say have more than this 1 miner (assuming all they bought is 1 SP30) in their arsenal.

So as a suggestion:
- Provide the compensation plan as soon as possible
- Distribute the actual compensation as soon as possible, why would it make any sense for anyone but ST to hold off with compensation if you are offering it anyways? at least this way people may have the opportunity to pay for another hosting option or 'hire' that electrician if needed.

You could always lower your own hosting plans, but as you mentioned above that is not an option.

Just some thoughts, as most people here I would think were expecting a higher performing machine with lower power consumption with a better ROI.

That's all. nothing personal against ST at all, I think you guys are great and cutting edge.

Just trying to make it seem fair for everyone involved.

Thanks!
legendary
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Here is the updated Hardware comparison chart/document.



Below is the link to the shared document that gives examples of hardware speculative returns factoring 10% and 20% network difficulty increase.

NOTE: If network difficulty stays below 20% then the document will be revised to 10% and 5% estimate results.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmeuPljmUNHCdEpqX2RmMDFwemJyLURVUWFtZ3J3aGc&usp=sharing
sr. member
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Sucks you don't get your refunds until October. That's a nice interest free loan that Spondoolies got from the community and now you don't have the option to buy competitors gear if you wanted since SP is holding onto your money for a few more months.  Roll Eyes

i'm sorry but; you are clueless.
since when would I ever put all my eggs in one basket? since when would I put all my money into one purchase? since when are you the authority on what everyone else does with thier time/money/investment?

you just make it up as you go along. clueless.

now run along and stop your whinging.
I'm fed up of people who have nothing better to do with their time than complain about common hurdles which can often occur in life. If I had your attitude, i'd be afraid to leave my house in case I got hit by a bus. You do not endear yourself to me, and personally, I couldn't care less about your own predicament.

today is still a good day  Grin
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Sucks you don't get your refunds until October. That's a nice interest free loan that Spondoolies got from the community and now you don't have the option to buy competitors gear if you wanted since SP is holding onto your money for a few more months.  Roll Eyes

I agree and why not publish the compensation plan on the website.
hero member
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Sucks you don't get your refunds until October. That's a nice interest free loan that Spondoolies got from the community and now you don't have the option to buy competitors gear if you wanted since SP is holding onto your money for a few more months.  Roll Eyes
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As I have a first day order and shipping starts today, my unit should come online today.
When are you going to connect the hosted units?

We are handling todays shipping and then we connect machines that left here.
Same tomorrow.

Are you a member of Spoondolies-Tech team?

zvisha is our beloved FW developer.

Smiley

Sorry, it's a bit too crazy here to post pictures.
We are learning the ASICs behaviour and test systems today. You know, working ASICs are all alike, every broken ASIC is broken in its own way.
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Dear Customers,

After a close inspection of the first ASICs, I'm pleased to announce that the ASICs are fully functional.  Made from industrial grade, sophisticated hardware, the SP30 is now the best mining rig available in the market.

For units produced up to and including September, the SP30's hash rate will be 4.5TH/s +- 5%. Power consumption will be 3KW at the wall.

With additional tuning of the production process for October and onwards, we expect future SP30s to deliver a hash-rate of 5.5 +- 5%, with power consumption of 3KW at the wall.

For customers who have already placed orders and are awaiting delivery, our priority is to ensure on-time delivery of your machines so you can immediately start seeing ROI. I am therefore very pleased to report that we will meet our original delivery schedule and provide all customers with on-time delivery.

For customers receiving units before October, we will adjust the price of your machines consistent with the 4.5TH/s +- 5% hash rate. Compensation will be based on preserving the $/GH ratio of the original deal. Starting in October, we will compensate you for the differential in hashing power according to each customer's preference. We will contact each and every one of you over the next few weeks to discuss your preferred method of compensation.

As always, we are at your disposal for any questions or inquiries.

We sincerely appreciate your loyalty and support as we continue to develop the world’s best mining products and services.

Best Regards,

Guy Corem

CEO

Thanks Guy.

I look forward to hearing from the SPTech team soon on the compensation.
legendary
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As I have a first day order and shipping starts today, my unit should come online today.
When are you going to connect the hosted units?

We are handling todays shipping and then we connect machines that left here.
Same tomorrow.

any images of the internals ? or at least the completed machines and also how many are you shipping each day ?
hero member
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Shipping during the day and installing in datacenter during the evening seems like a fair deal.

Thanks for the information!
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As I have a first day order and shipping starts today, my unit should come online today.
When are you going to connect the hosted units?

We are handling todays shipping and then we connect machines that left here.
Same tomorrow.

Are you a member of Spoondolies-Tech team?

zvisha is our beloved FW developer.
sr. member
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As I have a first day order and shipping starts today, my unit should come online today.
When are you going to connect the hosted units?

We are handling todays shipping and then we connect machines that left here.
Same tomorrow.
Any estimate for the Group Buy from Roadstress? Days, Weeks, end of August?
I was told by Guy that I will receive my Group Buy order in the second part of August.
sr. member
Activity: 462
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As I have a first day order and shipping starts today, my unit should come online today.
When are you going to connect the hosted units?

We are handling todays shipping and then we connect machines that left here.
Same tomorrow.

Are you a member of Spoondolies-Tech team?
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As I have a first day order and shipping starts today, my unit should come online today.
When are you going to connect the hosted units?

We are handling todays shipping and then we connect machines that left here.
Same tomorrow.
Any estimate for the Group Buy from Roadstress? Days, Weeks, end of August?
hero member
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As I have a first day order and shipping starts today, my unit should come online today.
When are you going to connect the hosted units?

We are handling todays shipping and then we connect machines that left here.
Same tomorrow.
hero member
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As I have a first day order and shipping starts today, my unit should come online today.

When are you going to connect the hosted units?
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noobie
so 4500gh at 3000 watts

okay that is .666 watts a hash .


made in Israel. .666 watts a hash. coincidence?

Speechless! Really?!  Huh

It's not pulling 3000. It's pulling 2910. So it's 646.

"Number 646 is a compilation of the energies and vibrations of number 6 and number 4, with number 6 appearing repeated, amplifying its influences.  Number 6 lends its attributes of stability and grace, acquisition, healing, love of home and family, protection, care and nurturing, solution-finding and problem-solving, reliability and responsibility, integrity and honesty.  Number 6 also relates to the material aspects of life.  Number 4 resonates with truth and integrity, practicality, working steadily towards achieving goals and aspirations, system and order, self-initiation, building solid foundations and enthusiasm coupled with determination. Number 4 also relates to the energies of the Archangels."

http://sacredscribesangelnumbers.blogspot.co.il/2011/10/angel-number-646.html


best reply ever !
hero member
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so 4500gh at 3000 watts

okay that is .666 watts a hash .


made in Israel. .666 watts a hash. coincidence?

Speechless! Really?!  Huh

It's not pulling 3000. It's pulling 2910. So it's 646.

"Number 646 is a compilation of the energies and vibrations of number 6 and number 4, with number 6 appearing repeated, amplifying its influences.  Number 6 lends its attributes of stability and grace, acquisition, healing, love of home and family, protection, care and nurturing, solution-finding and problem-solving, reliability and responsibility, integrity and honesty.  Number 6 also relates to the material aspects of life.  Number 4 resonates with truth and integrity, practicality, working steadily towards achieving goals and aspirations, system and order, self-initiation, building solid foundations and enthusiasm coupled with determination. Number 4 also relates to the energies of the Archangels."

http://sacredscribesangelnumbers.blogspot.co.il/2011/10/angel-number-646.html
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so 4500gh at 3000 watts

okay that is .666 watts a hash .


made in Israel. .666 watts a hash. coincidence?

Speechless! Really?!  Huh
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