Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 485. (Read 1260350 times)

What are you talking about?

As can clearly be seen in the text you quoted, I'm not bashing anyone. I did call you out for lying earlier on though and then you started bashing me by calling me an AM shill for saying that people are legally entitled to refunds. I then pointed out that I never said anything to promote AM here but you had been shilling in the AM thread. I also pointed out that refusing to give people refunds would damage your reputation and people would equate you with scammers.

It's like you're not even aware of what you say, so yes, I will stop now.

My plan was to run these at home as well I was planning on installing a 240v circuit next week to host these and I was going to undevolt down to around 2kw

now we are looking at 4.5 TH at 3KW we are looking at frankeneptune numbers that's a ridiculous amount of heat to have to account for.

The only way I accept this deal is if I get another sp30 for a low price in October for a VERY VERY low price and this is guaranteed and I will host them both in a DC.

The power miss ins a big deal heck I would probably have been happy with 4.5 TH at 2.5KW and a discounted price but now I don't know I might go the full refund route now as  I don't feel this compensation is equitable enough. Either make us whole or give a full refund but either way we got fucked becase I missed out on the s3 batch 1 by investing in these.



http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=5400.00&p=2500.00&pc=0.10&pf=2.00&d=18736441558.31020000&r=25.00000000&er=586.70000000&hc=4500.00


http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=4500.00&p=3000.00&pc=0.10&pf=2.00&d=18736441558.31020000&r=25.00000000&er=586.70000000&hc=4500.00


as you can see from the difference this new miner spec would avagere close to $600 less per month (that's a whole BTC) than the orginal spec we were expecting, and we are not even talking about 6TH here which was higly bandied about.
The way I see it is SP tech owes us the price of an additional Sp10 , and if we have to wait till October for compensation who the F knows what the difficulty will be by then ?  which means we should be getting October batch miners for damn near free IMO

Will cover that too in my GB questions and will post an update there.


I say that you stop with whatever you are trying to do. It's obvious that you are trying to bash me or SP-Tech with whatever you can. The fact that you don't even know how things went with my GB shows exactly this. At least with jimmothy I could reason, but you are giving me nothing and you are owning yourself.

Like what, consumer rights?


If that's the case, then yeah it's not your responsibility, it's Spondoolies.

It is interesting to see if hosting price (in WA data center) is affected for RoadStress August group-buy.
I'm asking because previous price quote for the group buy hosting cover only 2.5kW and/or 2.7kW ... now we are talking about 3K. It is not a big jump in power but it would be good to know the updated price quote.

(I'll not send them an email with this question because I'm sure they are already bombarded with email from everyone)

I would like to buy your sp30 for August delivery. 

If anyone is unhappy and wants out of a June or early August SP30 order, and Spondoolies will agree to transfer the order (and compensation plan), i would be willing to take over your order and refund you for $$ paid.

Please PM if interested.

I thought it was the blue wire?

I think RoadStress arranged the group buy and was the middle man, I am pretty sure he made good money out of this deal but the final payment was made to the company so not sure if he is responsible for any refund but I agree with you that this is a mess.

You are going nowhere with this and you know it. Pushing things like this is simply useless and actually is showing your true character.

I took no money for the products, only reservation fees so I'm not legally obligated to deal with any refund request.

As for scammer Ken Slaughter I smelled him right from the start. Same as Labcoin. Your comparision to those 2 failed ventures only makes me laugh and shows how desperate are you for some bad examples. Feel free to call me as you wish, but it won't bring you faster dividends

No, that was an example of what you have been doing. Regardless of you being a liar and a shill, you are the one who took money in exchange for a product that is significantly different than advertised and you are the one who is legally obligated to deal with any requested refunds. So, if someone asks you for a full refund, will you provide it as legally required? Look at Ken Slaughter, is that your future? Will you do a runner like Labcoin? Shall we start calling you BFLRoadStress now?

Good luck trying to sell anything else in the future.

I can fit 48 S3s into a cabinet easy, just go 2 deep and cut the green wire. It does take a bit of power though to run that dense.

Here is the picture but it shows 27 but I am pretty sure you could put one more:)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7216.5900

Well you just proved my point by advertising AM gen4 chips

Please correct me more on my lies just like jimmothy does.


Please post a picture with the 28 S3s into a single server cabinet on the dedicated thread with pictures of mining rigs.

Thank you. Will try to have fun while doing it.

The increased power consumption can also cause issues for people running in a data center for the reason I explained in my last post.

Suppose I rent a server cabinet with has 2 30A 208V circuits for a total of 10kW, and I was planning on running 4 SP30s in that cabinet since each one was only supposed to use 2.5kW. The increased power consumption just cost me more money because now I can only run 3 SP30s in that cabinet instead of 4.

That extra 500W of power usage per SP30 is also going to cost folks running in data centers.

Dude, nobody should run datacenter grade miners on 120V circuits.

Most countries in the world don´t have such an exotic voltage anyway so please, stop whining about it.

Use some proper wiring and have your electrician run 220V/240V circuits for your miners.


These miners aren´t originally designed for home use so please, act with common sense.

I am also quite sure you don´t want to have 3kW of heat in your home during the summer.

If you mean the technical specifications at http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp30-yukon-september-batch-1, I did.

The specifications originally were 5.4TH @ 2500W nominal. Now they are different. I'm not concerned with the decreased hashrate, as there will be compensation for that. What I *am* concerned with is the increased power consumption. 4.5TH/s @ 3000W is a lot different than 5.4TH/s @ 2500W to those with 120V/15A circuits.

If the SP30 can be underclocked to use 2500W as originally specified, allowing the use of two 15A/120V circuits as originally specified, the hashrate will be 3.5-4TH/s. Will Spondoolies compensate for that?

Can you tell me how much it's costing to rent the full rack with 2 30A/208 circuits and what state it's located?

I was waiting for the Spondoolies SP30 announcement before ordering more S3s.

Each server cabinet I rent has 2 x 30A 208V outlets for a total of ~10KW, so I was hoping to be able to run 4 SP30s at 6TH/s in a single cabinet (24TH).

Considering the August / Sept batch of SP30s only runs at 4.5 TH/s and uses 3KW, I can only get 3 SP30s in a single server cabinet for ~13.5TH.

I can get 28 S3s into a single server cabinet for ~12.3TH (440 GH/s @ 350W each).

I see absolutely no reason to pre-order a SP30 over buying a S3, which is available now, even though the S3 has slightly worse power efficiency.

I hope many folks learned a hard lesson about the perils of pre-orders, and I wouldn't want to be Roadstress right now and have to deal with all the pissed off customers from his group buy. Have fun cleaning up this mess, Roadstress!

I still like Spondoolies tech, and think they make good products, but they did grossly overhype and inflate the SP30 specifications in order to sell more SP30 pre-orders. I may even purchase a October SP30 if they ship immediately and are competitive with other offerings on the market in October.

I not surprised at the difficulty Spondoolies is having with the SP30 and think we're reaching the limits of current semiconductor technology. I doubt we'll see miners go much below .5 W/GH within the next year.

I'm pretty sure you can configure it to draw only 2500W, if you have that limitation on the electrical circuits, but it will be at the expense of the hashrate. No one here said you need 3000W to run it. Guy said earlier that the PSUs are 1200W output, 1500W at the wall if you're using 220V. I just read the PSU specifications and the UL certification which corresponds to your case in US .. and I'm translating you what you should understand from them.

The unit will run even on 110V and 10 amps if this is everything you have. But don't ask anyone to guarantee 4.5TH/s with that. You should read the specifications, not the advertisements. They're generic, and do not say under what conditions you get that consumption. The link I gave earlier was from the SP repository, and from the PSU manufacturer, not bitcointalk.org.