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Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 677. (Read 1260395 times)

sr. member
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How comes I have missed this company.

Is it legit or a scam? :-)

Have you even attempted to read any post from this thread? Or are you blindly willing to rely on words form strangers?

QG

i pre-ordered from scamfast. I think a lot of us have been guilty of that particular naivety - but aye, sometimes it helps to actually read the thread.
Spondoolies... is batch2 shipped yet please?
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
How comes I have missed this company.

Is it legit or a scam? :-)

For what it's worth, you don't see me in here dissing the shit outta them, do you? I posted a couple times, or so, and I'm at ease after they addressed my concerns with kid's gloves as they are suppose to.

Either they are extremely viable or are doing a great job if it's a well-orchestrated "long con". Either way, bravo! (not meant as a diss)

Also, I'm pretty sure I'm the one that suggested the down payment option prior to anybody else, of which is now implemented.

The scuttlebutt from somebody who's been to their office there near the Gaza Strip with the two abandoned buses out front, assures me that they're the real McCoy, in spite of not having an office comparable to some ritzy place. (again, not a diss, but letting you and them know that I'm keeping a pretty good eye on them)

~Bruno Kucinskas
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miners poem
LOL
Won't happen.

Edit: Seriously. We know what we're doing. We've implemented much more complex ASICs and systems.
Partial talent list: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/pages/team

I bet 5 BTC against your delivery date. No problem to send the money escrow to you.

Facts, what can happen in the development of your product in time are endless long. And i am sure more than half of your projects you started were delayed or cancelled (what is so normal, see Intel, Tegra, AMD etc). Say different and its a lie.
Only 5 BTC ?

Put 25 BTC in escrow and post the details.

If we'll miss SP30 delivery dates, one "Farmer's choice" (http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/3-x-sp30-yukon-august-batch) is yours, free of charge.

Agree?

Edit: This offer expires in 2 hours
Edit2: The offer expired.

It saddens me to read this post, for I put you guys above conducting such shenanigans. I put my neck out quasi-endorsing you guys, and this is how I'm rewarded.

Outta all the marketing know how you guys possess, it would have better served you to politely ask posters who veer from what's expected in this thread, i.e. "I bet you...", to take it elsewhere, but you opted to chime in, going as far as taking and upping the bet. This does not bode well!

Do you guys have any idea how much market share you just lost due to this one post alone?

~Bruno Kucinskas

what utter guff. anyone who can't put their money where their mouth is, should really just shut up and let folks do as they will.
what was shown was the solid confidence that these rigs will ship on spec and on time. nothing less and nothing more.

I like your style!

Sara's into pole dancing ;-)

how much for a blow job?

... it would have better served you to politely ask posters who veer from what's expected in this thread, i.e. "I bet you...", to take it elsewhere, but you opted to chime in, going as far as taking and upping the bet ...
Good advice. It was a one time offer. Not to be repeated.

That's how you handle errors. We are all human. I would be an ass it I continued this dialog, but it looks like it's not needed.

Always bear in mind that customers and non-customers (me, for one), alike, are watching you folks, for Bitcoin is at the core of your endeavor, and that's what we're looking out for whether it's miner makers, exchanges, scams in general, etc.

Thanks again, bud.

~Bruno Kucinskas

Hello Bruno,

My definition:
Any risks of delay should not be put on the customer as he is not responsible for the companys work or sucess.  No pre-orders for him.

Investors are taking risks by giving money to a company and get reward in profit. Pre-order is a risk so an inestor can take it.

'Investomer' is taking the risk of a Pre-order and getting no reward from profit. Thats is how you make a business with a company in real world with a contract which is saying that you are getting compensated for every day of delay because of your lost income.

This company is not giving you a legit contract. Its based on trust. Bitcoins philosophy is instead of making agreements on trust, using a technology which is working without it. In businessworld you are having contracts to avoid that you have to trust someone, that someone is selling you something. I dont think you understand bitcoins at all. Sorry.

Verstehst du?

Best regards,

Christof

ZiG
sr. member
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How comes I have missed this company.

Is it legit or a scam? :-)

Have you even attempted to read any post from this thread? Or are you blindly willing to rely on words form strangers?

QG


Getting forum post number up more likely:)
No, we're not doing that
(Well, except for now:) )

No...not you Spondoolies-Tech...You are fine and LEGIT...!

The guy ...BitCoin Operated Boy...asking the original question at the first place...
donator
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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
How comes I have missed this company.

Is it legit or a scam? :-)

Have you even attempted to read any post from this thread? Or are you blindly willing to rely on words form strangers?

QG


Getting forum post number up more likely:)
No, we're not doing that
(Well, except for now:) )
member
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How comes I have missed this company.

Is it legit or a scam? :-)

Have you even attempted to read any post from this thread? Or are you blindly willing to rely on words form strangers?

QG


Getting forum post number up more likely:)
hero member
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http://idontALT.com
How comes I have missed this company.

Is it legit or a scam? :-)

Have you even attempted to read any post from this thread? Or are you blindly willing to rely on words form strangers?

QG
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
How comes I have missed this company.

Is it legit or a scam? :-)
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 500
If we do hosting with you and then choose we no longer want to use your hosting will you ship us the unit  for just the cost of shipping?
Yes
Do you have any plans for leasing rigs and using your hosting?
Not at the moment.

The plans are:
- Buy and Ship
- Buy and Host in Israel and then Ship (at the end of term)
- Buy and Ship and then Host abroad

Maybe we'll add more plans in the future.

Thanks for the reply.
donator
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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
If we do hosting with you and then choose we no longer want to use your hosting will you ship us the unit  for just the cost of shipping?
Yes
Do you have any plans for leasing rigs and using your hosting?
Not at the moment.

The plans are:
- Buy and Ship
- Buy and Host in Israel and then Ship (at the end of term)
- Buy and Ship and then Host abroad

Maybe we'll add more plans in the future.
donator
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1051
Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
I guess more "investors" are needed for the Boden facility(http://thenodepole.com/2014/02/06/knc-miner-to-build-10-mw-datacenter-in-the-node-pole/):

https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptune-thrid-batch
https://www.kncminer.com/products/mini-neptune-third-batch

Questions for you:
- What's 1 month after Q2/Q3 ?
- Why the change of policy regarding refunds ?

It's sad.
hero member
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If we do hosting with you and then choose we no longer want to use your hosting will you ship us the unit  for just the cost of shipping? Do you have any plans for leasing rigs and using your hosting?
sr. member
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looks like we finally have a legit asic maker with good hardware and does what it says, no bs. good job!

however i think you need to improve the price, understand you want to keep the margin high but mining hardware is a rapid depreciating business overtime. 3-6 months from now your margin is guaranteed to erode significantly, so better off with a lower margin/price now(while still much higher than what it will be in 6 months) to make it attractive and drive higher sales NOW.

cex.io May is at 0.004btc/gh, that's $2576 for same 1.4TH (0.004btc*1400GH*460usd). Add on 10% premium for their maintenance fee(the other 10% is just same electricity), you looking at $2800 - risk free mining. 

Your may 1.4 TH unit is at $4000 (using the 2unit pricing), and that's not including hosting + risk of hardware issues/downtime.

Anyway to slice it, i just cant bring myself to order this vs buying cex.io shares.


hmm.. cloud hosting eh? nowhere near as much fun! gimme that rig for the wintertime - it's c,c,c,cold in Scotland.

no it's not Smiley but i am just looking at the numbers.  I had 4x antminer running during winter, it does keep you nice and warm lol

actually, gimme that rig for the summertime too, it really is that cold here...
however, i thought i was saving a fortune last winter, rig on pumping warm air through the house, decided not to put the heating on - guess what, frozen water in the heating pipes. I won't be making that mistake again!
hero member
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Someone is sitting in the shade today...
looks like we finally have a legit asic maker with good hardware and does what it says, no bs. good job!

however i think you need to improve the price, understand you want to keep the margin high but mining hardware is a rapid depreciating business overtime. 3-6 months from now your margin is guaranteed to erode significantly, so better off with a lower margin/price now(while still much higher than what it will be in 6 months) to make it attractive and drive higher sales NOW.

cex.io May is at 0.004btc/gh, that's $2576 for same 1.4TH (0.004btc*1400GH*460usd). Add on 10% premium for their maintenance fee(the other 10% is just same electricity), you looking at $2800 - risk free mining. 

Your may 1.4 TH unit is at $4000 (using the 2unit pricing), and that's not including hosting + risk of hardware issues/downtime.

Anyway to slice it, i just cant bring myself to order this vs buying cex.io shares.


hmm.. cloud hosting eh? nowhere near as much fun! gimme that rig for the wintertime - it's c,c,c,cold in Scotland.

no it's not Smiley but i am just looking at the numbers.  I had 4x antminer running during winter, it does keep you nice and warm lol
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
looks like we finally have a legit asic maker with good hardware and does what it says, no bs. good job!

however i think you need to improve the price, understand you want to keep the margin high but mining hardware is a rapid depreciating business overtime. 3-6 months from now your margin is guaranteed to erode significantly, so better off with a lower margin/price now(while still much higher than what it will be in 6 months) to make it attractive and drive higher sales NOW.

cex.io May is at 0.004btc/gh, that's $2576 for same 1.4TH (0.004btc*1400GH*460usd). Add on 10% premium for their maintenance fee(the other 10% is just same electricity), you looking at $2800 - risk free mining. 

Your may 1.4 TH unit is at $4000 (using the 2unit pricing), and that's not including hosting + risk of hardware issues/downtime.

Anyway to slice it, i just cant bring myself to order this vs buying cex.io shares.


hmm.. cloud hosting eh? nowhere near as much fun! gimme that rig for the wintertime - it's c,c,c,cold in Scotland.
hero member
Activity: 1316
Merit: 503
Someone is sitting in the shade today...
looks like we finally have a legit asic maker with good hardware and does what it says, no bs. good job!

however i think you need to improve the price, understand you want to keep the margin high but mining hardware is a rapid depreciating business overtime. 3-6 months from now your margin is guaranteed to erode significantly, so better off with a lower margin/price now(while still much higher than what it will be in 6 months) to make it attractive and drive higher sales NOW.

cex.io May is at 0.004btc/gh, that's $2576 for same 1.4TH (0.004btc*1400GH*460usd). Add on 10% premium for their maintenance fee(the other 10% is just same electricity), you looking at $2800 - risk free mining with the ability for instant unloading to btc.

Your may 1.4 TH unit is at $4000 (using the 2unit pricing), and that's not including hosting + risk of hardware issues/downtime.

Anyway to slice it, i just cant bring myself to order this vs buying cex.io shares.
legendary
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nec sine labore

We're working to secure more locations (e.g. Iceland)

If you don't know them yet, you can ask to advania.com, they have good prices, I had a rack reserved with them in case BitMine.ch delivered... Sad

spiccioli

donator
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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
We'll be offline for the next few hours.
If you have questions, we'll reply later.
donator
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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
You have been asking us lately to offer more options when it came to payments on pre-orders.
 
We want you to be able to secure the best units for future mining, while keeping your own risks at checks.
 
Starting today and only in April we are offering new and improved payment terms!
 
1.      40% in advance, 60% when your unit is ready for shipment

2.      40% in advance, 60% converted into Bitcoin and paid when the unit is ready for shipment.

3.      10% discount for upfront payment

 
These options allow you to better protect yourselves against changes in the Bitcoin exchange rate.
 
Think the Bitcoin value is going to drop? Chose the second option and convert the reminder of your payment to Bitcoin in today’s value.
 
Think the value will rise? Choose to pay your reminder in US dollars.
 
We will record whichever option you choose and charge you accordingly. On payment of the 60%, you can still choose to pay with Bitcoin, US dollars, or Euros. We will convert the amount in our record to the desired payment methods.

These options will now be available when purchasing a single Yukon unit or the 3 X SP30 Farmer's choice deal.
 
Example:
 
Current Bitcoin value is 1 BTC = $440. The average exchange rate over the two weeks prior to delivery is 1 BTC = $100. If you purchase the farmers choice at $20,995 you will pay 40% in advance which are $8,398.
 
You chose the first option
The reminder 60% which are $12,597 are stored in our records and emailed to you. Before your shipment is ready you will be asked to pay this amount and can choose to pay it in US dollars, Euros, or Bitcoin. If you choose Bitcoin and the new exchange rate is 1 BTC = $100 you will be asked to pay 125.97 BTC.
What happens if the value of Bitcoin raises to 1 BTC = 1000$? Well, in that case if you chose to pay with Bitcoin you only need to pay 12.597 BTC.
 
You chose the second option
We convert the reminder 60% which are $12,597 to Bitcoin using the current exchange rate. This leaves 28.63 BTC to be paid before shipping.
As before, you can chose to pay with Bitcoin, US dollars or Euros. With the exchange rate given in this example, this will translate into only $2,863
 
We believe this is a great tool for you to insure yourself against changes in the exchange rate and rolls most of the risk back to us.
 
Do you prefer a simpler method with one payment? No problem, you can always take the 10% discount and know that you are covered in any case.

All options are available in a drop down menu in the products page:

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/3-x-sp30-yukon-august-batch

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp30-yokon

The options can be found right above the "Add to cart" button:

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