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Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 673. (Read 1260395 times)

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Let me troll a bit:

I just realized that S2 + 2*S1 is roughly the same as spondoolies SP10.
S2 (batch 2) + 2*S1 price is  ~$4470 (incl. shipping) and if you bought S2 batch 2 you get it two days ago.

S10 is $4495 + shipping roughly $400 and you get it in May.

Just saying... lower your prices guys!

There's another competitor selling in-stock 1.6 TH/s units for $4800. Difficulty just jumped up to nearly 7B. SP10 pricing is looking worse and worse every day.
Competitor:
On a good day you get 1.6 TH/s
On bad day you get below 1.3 TH/s
Only 4 ASICs, no redundancy built into the system.
They just changed their warranty policy from 90 days to 30 days for a very good reason.
SP10 power preformance ratio is much better (30%-40% less), meaning much smaller electricity bill or hosting bill.
4U vs 1.25U, again meaning much cheaper hosting.
Not relevant, but just that you understand the level of their engineering: we're 40nm, they're 28nm. NOT a good engineering. In fact, very bad.
We know the reasons for their fire sale. We can't elaborate, but it's not good.

We're giving 10% discount on showing us proof of purchase from other vendor.
With current production capability and queue status, we'll ship all orders given today well before May 10th.
For 7,200$ you can get 2.8TH/s +- 10% (usually plus) within ~20 days.

Edit:
Food for thought about the "competitor". We need to be careful here, so we'll just state known facts and raise questions.
In the semiconductors business, lead time takes 2-3 months. You simply can't create stock immediately. You need to order ASICs, mechanics and other electronics parts.
2 Weeks ago, the only batch they sold was June. Suddenly, out of nowhere, April batch emerged. Questions:

- Where did this stock came from ?
- Are those new or old machines ?
- When where they produced ?
- Are they doing self mining on large scale and competing with their customers ?
- If so, why stop doing it suddenly and sell the machines ?
- What is the reason for the fire sale ?
- What do they know and don't tell their customers ?
- Why the change of warranty policy from 90 days to 30 days ?
- Are they transparent with their customers ?
- Do they have good track record regarding delivery ?
- Do they have good track record regarding quality ?
- Do you want to support such a vendor ?

It's your money. Ask for transparency.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6256244
legendary
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Let me troll a bit:

I just realized that S2 + 2*S1 is roughly the same as spondoolies SP10.
S2 (batch 2) + 2*S1 price is  ~$4470 (incl. shipping) and if you bought S2 batch 2 you get it two days ago.

S10 is $4495 + shipping roughly $400 and you get it in May.

Just saying... lower your prices guys!

There's another competitor selling in-stock 1.6 TH/s units for $4800. Difficulty just jumped up to nearly 7B. SP10 pricing is looking worse and worse every day.
newbie
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Let me troll a bit:

I just realized that S2 + 2*S1 is roughly the same as spondoolies SP10.
S2 (batch 2) + 2*S1 price is  ~$4470 (incl. shipping) and if you bought S2 batch 2 you get it two days ago.

S10 is $4495 + shipping roughly $400 and you get it in May.

Just saying... lower your prices guys!
hero member
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Hey Guy/Spondoolies,

fyi, http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/pages/terms-of-sale
Code:
...Price upon making the Order (the "Otrder Date"), and the remaining 60%...
Typo, t.
Code:
7. Termination.  .Spondoolie
extra .

Smiley
QG

Fixed - thanks for being quick-sighted! Smiley
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Hey Guy/Spondoolies,

fyi, http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/pages/terms-of-sale
Code:
...Price upon making the Order (the "Otrder Date"), and the remaining 60%...
Typo, t.
Code:
7. Termination.  .Spondoolie
extra .

Smiley
QG
donator
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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
OK ... I've had this thread marked for a while, but only just had the time over the last few days to read a good many pages, also done a lot of research.

I'm quite struck by people's feedback about this kit, and the positive feeling that runs throughout the thread. The boxes look well made (not sure that the noise issue has been resolved, but couldn't quite find the answer to that) and Spondoolies look to be delivering the product.

To be honest, I have been waiting for Bitmain's batch 3 of their S2, but they seem to have a lot of ongoing issues with quality control. I'm running a load of Antminer S1s at present (All run solid as a rock, but power consumption is an issue).

So ... if I decide to invest in a SP10 box or two from Israel, I wonder what import (Customs/VAT) payment might be payable on delivery? Can anyone in the UK advise what they had to pay?

Many thanks.



I can't say for sure about that but there is hosted option to avoid that. Note that the hosting service already includes VAT.
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I ended up backing out of the SP 30 group buy for two miners and instead going for the entire farmers pack of 3. I probably am going the 40-60 way. I just had one question though, we plan on getting a huge check in september. We wanted to know if by then we could pay the extra 60% that is needed. We haven't bought yet, but we will. This is just the backup just in case you haven't seen the email my mom sent to you guys. Thank you. She's really skeptical about it, yet excited at the same time. Do you guys have a video of the SP 30 in action or in a mining pool? Thanks.
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'The right to privacy matters'
   A nice piece of gear, but more hurry up and wait.  Very difficult to tie up 8000 for an order of 2 units and wait .  I can buy 100 grid seed 5 chip working units  for about 8000 and have them in under 3 days.
   Sell 70 on ebay and mine with the other 30.  All of my profit has involved getting gear fast.

 Oh well. My choices seem far and few right between  now.

 I am still waiting on a 520 dollar refund from BFL since March 2103. And a return of .39345 btc from BIPS. since Nov 2013.
 and 1.55 btc from hash fast since aug 2013.

I do not want to put in orders for gear that is not in stock.
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OK ... I've had this thread marked for a while, but only just had the time over the last few days to read a good many pages, also done a lot of research.

I'm quite struck by people's feedback about this kit, and the positive feeling that runs throughout the thread. The boxes look well made (not sure that the noise issue has been resolved, but couldn't quite find the answer to that) and Spondoolies look to be delivering the product.

To be honest, I have been waiting for Bitmain's batch 3 of their S2, but they seem to have a lot of ongoing issues with quality control. I'm running a load of Antminer S1s at present (All run solid as a rock, but power consumption is an issue).

So ... if I decide to invest in a SP10 box or two from Israel, I wonder what import (Customs/VAT) payment might be payable on delivery? Can anyone in the UK advise what they had to pay?

Many thanks.

legendary
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I will mail you. I am impressed from what I have red about your team and you future plans also
Thank you. Since it's very late here, we'll answer tomorrow.
Same here I will mail tomorrow also
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I will mail you. I am impressed from what I have red about your team and you future plans also
Thank you. Since it's very late here, we'll answer tomorrow.
legendary
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Super Smiley
I will mail you. I am impressed from what I have red about your team and you future plans also
Thank you for the quick response
And your products of course Wink
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legendary
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Guy's
Do you sell  chips only?
10x
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The problem with making Boden obsolete is that you make everyone else's gear obsolete also. Kick in the nuts to us community miners that don't have the deep pockets of the elite.

When was this not ever going to happen? at the very least we have a company here who are committed to spreading the hashrate - I know whom I would prefer to bring up the level of bitcoin mining. Spondoolies are carried by a group of top people, each individually as concentrated on the good of the miner. Big rigs were inevitable, I'd much rather it be Spondoolies-Tech than KnC or other.
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The problem with making Boden obsolete is that you make everyone else's gear obsolete also. Kick in the nuts to us community miners that don't have the deep pockets of the elite.
There will be enough time to make very good ROI on the SP30.
Making Gen3 ready by Q4 doesn't mean immediate deployment of massive PH/s. Most of the deployment will be in 2015, the EH/s era.

Edit: And we'll support community efforts like shared DCs. We're already working towards such efforts.
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The problem with making Boden obsolete is that you make everyone else's gear obsolete also. Kick in the nuts to us community miners that don't have the deep pockets of the elite.
donator
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So how is the production on the SP 30 going? I think I also read somewhere that you're working on a 3rd generation. When would we expect that to come out and how much t hashes?
"RockerBox" (our 2nd gen ASIC) - Tapeout beginning of May. The entire project is on track.
"PickAxe" (our 3rd gen ASIC) - Q4, too early to know exact month. The preferred deployment method won't be rack mounted boxes, but probably IT containers. Enough TH/s to make Boden menace obsolete.
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So how is the production on the SP 30 going? I think I also read somewhere that you're working on a 3rd generation. When would we expect that to come out and how much t hashes?
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Don't worry. Your miners will arrive on time and on spec.
Unfortunately, this is the same thing CoinTerra, KnC, BFL all said.  It has about the same meaning as 'the check is in the mail!'

  

And HashF*ck, Bitmine and Black Arrow...
Although Bitmine and Black Arrow (especially Black Arrow) have been transparent and apologetic about their problems and delays.
It's becoming a bit of a repetitive subject. Here we go again:

- We don't promise "full refund" since failing to deliver will be a catastrophic event. You won't get your refund in that case also. Promising "full refund" will be a marketing lie. We want to avoid those.

Thanks for a quick response. There is still probability of not delivering on time because of some unpredictable external circumstances.
If such scenario happens and you cannot deliver on time or at all it means that we lose that 40% we invested and get no refund. It is a very risky for customer regardless if it is 40% or 100%. Especially if someone purchases larger quantities of devices.
There won't be a delay, unless force majeure. In such case, we'll find way to make our customers whole. However, we won't promise full refund which is a lie.
The entire mining business is risky. We firmly believe that we can get the delivery and spec out of the risk equation.
If you feel uncomfortable with the risk, please don't order.
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