Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 688. (Read 1260290 times)

Just dont waste time talking back and forth with these guys. Work on the SP30 and release to the public. So far you've done a good job with SP10

Hosting is the right solution for Q3 timeframe for small time miners.
Shares in a collective mining operation is the right solution for Q4 onwards.

I'll say that again. We're committed to the distribution of the hash-rate.

Real shipment numbers weren't asked for, just some type of tight parameter. I'm sure that I won't be the first and last person to point out the snide answer. Whether you realize it or not, you're not gaining traction, even slipping back a couple steps.

So, those who get miners comes August WILL be in direct competition to the 80% of the commercial miners, of which it would be off their backs that this endeavor is built, thus the small-time miner gets screwed again, and the bitcoin mining manufacturer and commercial hoster comes out smelling like a rose. I beginning to like to you guys.

Please buy that PDU model. Connect it to the power and login.
Post the date and time.

We won't disclose real shipment numbers.
Above 50, less than 1,000 to date.

By the end of 2014, beginning of 2015, we believe that above 80% of the mining will be done by operators runnig huge data centers or highly specialized IT containers designed for Bitcoin mining only, deployed in places with cheap electricity.
We'll support and promote community efforts to deploy such hash-rate.
I'm vague here on purpose, but we've already started such efforts.

Sean's Outpost gonna be happy then, if that's the case in this instance. Again, all this summation boils down to, is previous experience.
So.. you should also take into consideration, the companies who have done this, haven't been able to hide the fact, and once it was outed, their customers go racing for refunds, their sales drop dramatically and they end up with egg on their faces while all they have left; is to mine, for themselves.

I'd reckon providing equipment, long term, and sticking to the actual plan (as opposed to the surmise that THE SECOND ONE! is the real intent) would be the more profitable option.

Utmost care as to which phram will be distributed to, read the bigger the order, the bigger the shipment.

I think they went overboard when they slicked up their sale's pitch, when they should have scaled it back a tad so that it's not too inline with how their past ventures were packaged, some of which gone to the wayside in spite of the VC that poured in.

The principals have been around the block a few times and know exactly what they're doing and to who their customer base is. They surely are clicking all the right buttons, and millions WILL flow into their coffer but, again, at the end of the day I don't see rigs being shipped out on time nor them refraining from mining on rigs built with their investomers' money.

Am I the only one that has looked into the backgrounds of most of the principals? Surely, you guys did some research before sending bitcoins to purchase a machine that produces bitcoins, didn't you?

Imagine the following two scenarios, of which only one took place.

A group of men sitting around a boardroom table discussing how they're going to use their own money to develop, then offer for sale once bitcoin miners are fully built or, at the very least, all the parts are sourced. They all agree to the plan.

A group of men sitting around a boardroom table discussing how they're going to use their investomers' money to fully develop bitcoin miners, claiming that on a certain date they'll be shipped, but being a month or two late while mining with said units to further fill their coffer is the norm in this industry. Besides, how would it be proven otherwise? They all agree to the plan, each having the shittiest grins on their faces.

From a business standpoint, which one above makes the most sense? Hint: IT AIN'T THE FIRST ONE!

oops, please accept my apologies Biffa, had a few beers.  it does read like a bit of a rant


i was generalising. not entirely directed at you


we all want 'better' for 'cheaper' and the wife certainly wants 'quieter' - wouldn't it be nice to live in a perfect world.


that really depends on whether you buy in bulk, or not.


the entire slating of any new pre-order comes directly from previous experience. my point was, that whilst making pre-judgement (similar to pre-orders but morals, not money) against this new company, some people (perhaps not yourself) have used hashfast/cointerra/bfl as the benchmark.


likewise, i'm of a similar mind... my sp10 will look smart amongst a pile of old shitty blades, coupla bfl's and whatever else i can afford to add to the cabinets. I don't think we should be at each others throats, so i'm apoligising for a drunken rant and holding out an olive branch.


none. i believe in them; and their intentions, that's all.

^^ fixed it for ya 

The ONLY reason anyone would take pre-order money is if they think that what they get now will exceed what they would possibly get later.  Econ 101.  What idiot thinking they can get more money for the miner in a few months would sell it now for less?  Information asymmetry is off the charts here.

Can you please clarify this statement it seems very contradictory.  How can you be working with a goal of spreading the hash-rate when you have the belief that "small" miners will soon be extinct?  This screams centralization of hash power.

Bottom line is.... keep supporting ONE vendor.... from ONE country and dont cry about how centralized mining will be.

Those Chinese vendors are building large farms for themselves.

The PROC can shut these vendors down and then what?

At least support alternative so mining can have more players.

Spondoolies-Tech...:

Is it so hard to answer a simple question...?

You could round to the nearest 100s...like 200+...or something...

I would like to add.. nonrefundable unless they dont ship by X date. , in which case you get your deposit back.

I agree with the nonrefundable deposit. Perfect way to preserve a queue, and for the merchant to assume that customer is serious. If not, at least they were compensated in a way both parties agreed to at the beginning.

It is a nice feeling to have a backlog of orders.  Demand certainty, they have said, helps them plan their supply chain.

So long as we are willing to pre-order this practice will not end.

This

I wish to thank, Matt, above for providing the link.

Spondoolies-Tech has more than enough money in their various coffers of various concerns to not need to take pre-orders. They are in a unique position to end this pre-order bullshit once and for all. One way they could do such is by taking only a 10% nonrefundable deposit to be in a strict queue position. When the product is ready to ship (and not still weeks out due to not having some common part like PSUs on-hand), then those that ordered would have 48 hours to send the balance owed, otherwise loose their queue position, then possibly their deposit if not paid within X time frame.

Play fair, and Spondoolies-Tech could own this market. The other option is not very pleasant.

~Bruno Kucinskas