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Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 700. (Read 1260290 times)

newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
You can play around with mining $$$ numbers here: https://tradeblock.com/mining/


Another one I like as well...

http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php

With the price drop (therefore increasing amount of BTC to purchase ANY miner) it is impossible almost impossible to find any calculator that shows buying ANY mining gear (not singling out ST here) will be profitable (i.e., you will earn more BTC than you paid).

That is really a shame as I SO wanted to get some of their miners but cannot rationalize the expense  Angry

Why not just buy btc? lol?


I have purchased some.  Not nearly as interesting as mining, though.
you have to be able to thing beyond today.......

1) you buy BTC you have BTC

2) you buy a miner in about 5-6 weeks you have the same BTC and the ability to make more BTC if the price goes up or the difficulity goes down. Thats why these farms are rigging powerful mining units. Equiptment will be paid for and it will cost hardly anything to let it sit. However when the BTC price shoots up they can crank out milions of $$. Run your calculator at 2000 or 5000 BTC and see what you get.

Just last year we saw BTC go from 100 to 1250................ in todays world that would be like going from 500 to 5000 in a month!!!!!
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1005
ASIC Wannabe
You can play around with mining $$$ numbers here: https://tradeblock.com/mining/


Another one I like as well...

http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php

With the price drop (therefore increasing amount of BTC to purchase ANY miner) it is impossible almost impossible to find any calculator that shows buying ANY mining gear (not singling out ST here) will be profitable (i.e., you will earn more BTC than you paid).

That is really a shame as I SO wanted to get some of their miners but cannot rationalize the expense  Angry

Why not just buy btc? lol?


I have purchased some.  Not nearly as interesting as mining, though.

the antminer S1 is perhaps the only system that is well-priced at the moment in BTC. everything else is based in $ which makes them unattractive at btc prices under $500.
full member
Activity: 161
Merit: 100
You can play around with mining $$$ numbers here: https://tradeblock.com/mining/


Another one I like as well...

http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php

With the price drop (therefore increasing amount of BTC to purchase ANY miner) it is impossible almost impossible to find any calculator that shows buying ANY mining gear (not singling out ST here) will be profitable (i.e., you will earn more BTC than you paid).

That is really a shame as I SO wanted to get some of their miners but cannot rationalize the expense  Angry

Why not just buy btc? lol?


I have purchased some.  Not nearly as interesting as mining, though.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Known "secret" in the industry:
KNC won't ship Neptune in Q2. They'll get samples in July / August.
They've taped-out in the beginning March, 20nm cycle time takes 4-5 months.
Like other ASIC provider we won't disclose here, they've chosen the interim, problematic 20nm process.

20nm will be replaced by 16nm FinFET next year, for a good reason.

http://storage.googleapis.com/spond_public/images/tsmc.png

Ask for transparency. It's your money.

ssssssh. i've been saying for long enough 20nm ain't gonna ship in 2014.
and every time i say it I get shot down in flames... but hey this is YOUR thread, you can say what you like.
 Cheesy
donator
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1051
Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
Known "secret" in the industry:
KNC won't ship Neptune in Q2. They'll get samples in July / August.
They've taped-out in the beginning March, 20nm cycle time takes 4-5 months.
Like other ASIC provider we won't disclose here, they've chosen the interim, problematic 20nm process.

20nm will be replaced by 16nm FinFET next year, for a good reason.



Ask for transparency. It's your money.
full member
Activity: 161
Merit: 100
You can play around with mining $$$ numbers here: https://tradeblock.com/mining/


Another one I like as well...

http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php

With the price drop (therefore increasing amount of BTC to purchase ANY miner) it is impossible almost impossible to find any calculator that shows buying ANY mining gear (not singling out ST here) will be profitable (i.e., you will earn more BTC than you paid).

That is really a shame as I SO wanted to get some of their miners but cannot rationalize the expense  Angry

Why not just buy btc? lol?


Because buying btc is so boring, nothing to fiddle around with!


Soooo true.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007

 i just like to HODL

such baghold meme...  much explain



 i'm running KnC hardware

i was talking about the mining companies not their customers..  they will sell BTC into the dirt

Some things you can control and some you can't. There is/was absolutely no way to stop hardware making companies to set up their own farm (if you know one do tell) so i don't worry about that. I had a small shock last summer, but i adapted and i do my ROI calculations usually with higher difficulty instead of just the next one.
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1055
You can play around with mining $$$ numbers here: https://tradeblock.com/mining/


Another one I like as well...

http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php

With the price drop (therefore increasing amount of BTC to purchase ANY miner) it is impossible almost impossible to find any calculator that shows buying ANY mining gear (not singling out ST here) will be profitable (i.e., you will earn more BTC than you paid).

That is really a shame as I SO wanted to get some of their miners but cannot rationalize the expense  Angry

Why not just buy btc? lol?


Because buying btc is so boring, nothing to fiddle around with!
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1000
You can play around with mining $$$ numbers here: https://tradeblock.com/mining/


Another one I like as well...

http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php

With the price drop (therefore increasing amount of BTC to purchase ANY miner) it is impossible almost impossible to find any calculator that shows buying ANY mining gear (not singling out ST here) will be profitable (i.e., you will earn more BTC than you paid).

That is really a shame as I SO wanted to get some of their miners but cannot rationalize the expense  Angry

Why not just buy btc? lol?


Shh - don't tell everyone the secret... Tongue
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
You can play around with mining $$$ numbers here: https://tradeblock.com/mining/


Another one I like as well...

http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php

With the price drop (therefore increasing amount of BTC to purchase ANY miner) it is impossible almost impossible to find any calculator that shows buying ANY mining gear (not singling out ST here) will be profitable (i.e., you will earn more BTC than you paid).

That is really a shame as I SO wanted to get some of their miners but cannot rationalize the expense  Angry

Why not just buy btc? lol?
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 504
Run a Bitcoin node.

This was my favourite bit, not sure why Tongue

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First, you may wish to have a look at Dogie’s review on BitcoinTalk, he has done a tear down of the miner and has quite some expertise in the physical characteristics of hardware and I am not going to try to replicate his findings.

I believe in giving credit where credit is due, I follow your posts and hardware reviews and your knowledge of tin far outstrip's mine (I am an OS/systems/usability guy after all Tongue ).

Neil
Thanks Neil! I like the detail on the controller ports, I didn't realise they included those extra ports (anything more than an ethernet port).

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Closer inspection (pictured below) of the front of the miner you will see a USB slot (apparently soon to be used for a wireless dongle), a serial console port (useful for resurrecting dead miner from failed upgrades and other disasters), a 10/100 Ethernet port, two LED’s, a recessed button and finally a slot for a MicroSD card to be used for upgrades and recovery.
full member
Activity: 190
Merit: 100

 i just like to HODL

such baghold meme...  much explain



 i'm running KnC hardware
i was talking about the mining companies not their customers.. they will sell BTC into the dirt

I hope you are right so I can buy some cheap coins.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250

 i just like to HODL

such baghold meme...  much explain



 i'm running KnC hardware

i was talking about the mining companies not their customers..  they will sell BTC into the dirt
full member
Activity: 161
Merit: 100
Thanks everyone for the heads up.  I truly am enlightened by this info.  
However, I did go ahead, weeks ago, to pay them for a KNC Neptune miner.  The shipping according to them is $300USD.  I am in the US.  
I, too , have written to KNC & have only received vague answers myself.  They were incredibly helpful & informative when it came to my questions prior to taking my $$$.

So, if nothing should come of this in the next 2-3wks, I'll be requesting my refund, which according to them, is approx. 7-10 business days, which is almost the same time it took for my bank to wire them their $$$.

So in the meantime I'm shopping around & if something better or more promising becomes available sooner, goodbye KNC.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
Hi everyone.  
Please let me preface this with the following.
Thanks in advance to those that may respond to my stupid questions with any sort of positive answers.
...and thanks to those that refrain from replying with some belittling & unhelpful remark to us/me, BTC rookies.


I'm a bit late to the show & I was pondering why would one pay $4995 per SP10 (1.4TH/s miner) x2, (shipping not included, add another $800USD for that), for a total of approx. $10K-USD when KNCminer is delivering their 3TH/s Neptune for $10K-USD ($300USD for shipping) in a couple of weeks, if they keep to their shipping sched.

I would compare power usage between the two compan't miners in KW p/hr being used but I can't seem to find the Neptune's power usage on their website.

Can someone share some light on this?  Thanks again.

Hello rookie. Let me teach you how to help yourself in the future. If you want to make an investment please don't take anyone's word for granted. Always pass the information through your filter and make the decision by knowing that you are 100% satisfied with it and not because someone told you so.

Before answering your post you need to know that the data in it is very wrong. First of all if you want to buy 2 SP10 products you don't need to pay 4995$ x2 because there is a promo product of 2 x SP10 for 7995$ with shipping in May(plus shipping maybe). Secondly, depending on your country, you may need to pay VAT for that Neptune so you need to add that to the cost (you may need to pay VAT for SP10 too, but you will pay it much less than Neptune). Thirdly the shipping of Neptune you say is in a couple of weeks. A couple could mean anywhere from 2 to 12 weeks (their deadline is Q2 2014 meaning 30 June 2014). They never announced another shipping date time.

Now we get to the getting-the-ROI part! The thing that you need to consider when comparing the 2 is that you can get the 2x SP10 in May and you can start hashing and earning BTCs then. The Neptune may ship in May, but it can also ship at the end of June. We don't know yet since there is no info on that. I can't predict the the difficulty in May and the following months and i can't predict the exchange rate, but considering that the hashrates are close to equal and that difficulty is going to the moon then you will hash with a couple of week faster with the SP10s than with the Neptune. The choice is yours.
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
1.21 GIGA WATTS
Hi everyone.  
Please let me preface this with the following.
Thanks in advance to those that may respond to my stupid questions with any sort of positive answers.
...and thanks to those that refrain from replying with something belittling & unhelpful remark to us/me, BTC rookies.


I'm a bit late to the show & I was pondering why would one pay $4995 per SP10 (1.4TH/s miner) x2, (shipping not included, add another $800USD for that), for a total of approx. $10K-USD when KNCminer is delivering their 3TH/s Neptune for $10K-USD ($300USD for shipping) in a couple of weeks, if they keep to their shipping sched.

I would compare power usage between the two compan't miners in KW p/hr being used but I can't seem to find the Neptune's power usage on their website.

Can someone share some light on this?  Thanks again.

I'm really sure that KNC are not shipping in couple weeks (i'm a KNC neptune customer), and I don't even expect them to ship in a couple months.
Also the KNC neptunes are currently not available.  Not sure what's going on there, as many have been refunding but no sign of them offering these refunded units.
full member
Activity: 161
Merit: 100
Hi everyone.  
Please let me preface this with the following.
Thanks in advance to those that may respond to my stupid rookie questions with any sort of positive answers.
...and thanks to those that refrain from replying with some belittling & unhelpful remark to us/me, BTC rookies.


I'm a bit late to the show & I was pondering why would one pay $4995 per SP10 (1.4TH/s miner) x2, (shipping not included, add another $800USD for that), for a total of approx. $10K-USD when KNCminer is delivering their 3TH/s Neptune for $10K-USD ($300USD for shipping) in a couple of weeks, if they keep to their shipping sched.

I would compare power usage between the two company's miners in KW p/hr being used but I can't seem to find the Neptune's power usage on their website.

Can someone share some light on this?  Thanks again.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1000
You can play around with mining $$$ numbers here: https://tradeblock.com/mining/


Another one I like as well...

http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php

With the price drop (therefore increasing amount of BTC to purchase ANY miner) it is impossible almost impossible to find any calculator that shows buying ANY mining gear (not singling out ST here) will be profitable (i.e., you will earn more BTC than you paid).

That is really a shame as I SO wanted to get some of their miners but cannot rationalize the expense  Angry
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1100
You can play around with mining $$$ numbers here: https://tradeblock.com/mining/
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
The objective is to get the machine up and running ASAP, what could it be 1 or 2 or 3 days to generate coin to cover the cost of freight?

Just checked most shipping options quickly

1. FedEx 2 day service is indeed 800 dollars, no slower service offered than that

2. UPS does have slower service, cheapest is 7 day delivery for 600 dollars

3. Israel Post Office Air Mail cheaper at 300 dollars but no indication how long, (guess 2 weeks?)

Do the math, get it immediately and start mining, or save a few scrap dollars up front and lose 2 weeks worth of mining.

https://www.fedex.com/ratefinder/home?cc=IL&language=en
https://wwwapps.ups.com/ctc/request?loc=en_IL
http://www.israelpost.co.il/npostcalc.nsf/Calculator2?OpenForm&L=EN&menu=10&hidec=5

On average, without power costs, 1.4 TH/s should make ~64$ per day.

And dropping Sad

are any of you customers cost basis lower than KNC or bitfury?  goodluck watching the price of bitcoin get hammered while you wonder who on earth could be selling coins so cheaply

 Roll Eyes

I don't quite understand your question but yes i'm running KnC hardware and i just like to HODL so don't care about the price.
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